-The School of rock- Help out noob muscians.

[Spiral Man]

Welcome.
To "The School Of Rock".
Place for Muscians to give advice to wannabe rockstars.
If your an expert Muscian and want to be a teacher post and tell me what instrument you play.
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[TheVagrantHeroes]

im willing to help although im not to great on my music theory. ive been playing guitar/bass for 4 years.

[Tristis]

I'm willing to share whatever knowledge I have and give advice. I've played piano for about 11 years, both the acoustic and electric guitar for about 2 to 3 years each.

Outside of the instrument world, I've been rapping for about 6 to 8 years, and I've done my own audio recording for about 2 years. I've been screwing around and producing my own instrumentals on and off for about a year and a half.

....your best bet is asking me about rapping or vocals in general.

[google123]

I have a question. When you do the 0-2-2 as it's read in tabs, how do you organise your fingers to mute the first 3 strings?

[TheVagrantHeroes]

I have a question. When you do the 0-2-2 as it's read in tabs, how do you organise your fingers to mute the first 3 strings?

hmm your gonna have to be a little more specific maybe show a tab or something.

are you saying muting with your right hand or left hand?

[google123]

hmm your gonna have to be a little more specific maybe show a tab or something.

are you saying muting with your right hand or left hand?

e|-----
B|-----
G|-----
D|-2---
A|-2---
E|-0---
I mean that.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

e|-----
B|-----
G|-----
D|-2---
A|--2----
E|-0---
I mean that.


oh well you would use your palm to mute the G B and e strings by anchoring (having your pinky touch the strings hard enough so they dont make noise just the E A and D strings sound. this will help those notes ring out and prevent you from playing any unwanted notes.

if you want to mute the E A and D then use your palm again with no anchoring and it will muffel and deepen the sound of those notes.

sorry if that didnt make sense. if you need anything else ill help or reexplain.:)

[google123]

oh well you would use your palm to mute the G B and e strings by anchoring (having your pinky touch the strings hard enough so they dont make noise just the E A and D strings sound. this will help those notes ring out and prevent you from playing any unwanted notes.

if you want to mute the E A and D then use your palm again with no anchoring and it will muffel and deepen the sound of those notes.

sorry if that didnt make sense. if you need anything else ill help or reexplain.:)
I get it, mute with the pinky...! I was kinda lost cause if you that kinda thing lower down, then you also have your index finger in use, so muting with that was simple...

[TheVagrantHeroes]

glad i could help.

[Hangatýr]

There's no need to mute, it's better to practice on precision picking, which would only require you to barré with the index-finger.

[Not A Hero]

Yeah, you really don't need to mute. Just play the first three strings. I'm not exactly an expert on terminologies, but I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about...Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Hangatýr]

You only mute when it says X, rather than a fret number.

[Jokestr]

Okayso. Is singing a song while playing guitar (assuming the strum pattern is different from the vocal pattern) difficult to learn to coordinate yourself to do? I find myself either singing to the strum pattern or strumming to my vocals. .___.;

My instructor says its normal and takes awhile to get used to, but I was just asking for some other opinions ^^

[Hangatýr]

Hmm... If you keep your rhythm, it's easier, but it's also quite easy to fuck up simultaniously with guitar and vocals, when you make a mistake.

Also, when singing to a guitar, tune it a half-step down, it really make it a hell of a lot easier.

[Tristis]

It's not exactly insanely hard to do, but it does in fact take some to get used to.
For the most part, if you're just doing a studio recording, I'd say just do a multi-track recording and do the singing and strumming separately.

Other than that you could try practicing by strumming a real simple chord (progression?) that you pretty much have down by memory and try to sing along to it.

[Hangatýr]

It gets harder when you play lead, though.

Of course, if you can solo and sing, you're fucking hardcore.

[Jokestr]

XDD Thanks you twooo, that should help some.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

There's no need to mute, it's better to practice on precision picking, which would only require you to barré with the index-finger.

thats true but if he ever had to mute that would be a good way to do it.

[Hangatýr]

It doesn't say he should mute it, so it's stupid to do. Unless it explicitly states 'X' on the chord or tab, you don't mute. It's that simple.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

It doesn't say he should mute it, so it's stupid to do. Unless it explicitly states 'X' on the chord or tab, you don't mute. It's that simple.

i understood the question as making it so that the first 3 strings meaning G B and e would not ring out when he plays the chord a good way to do that would be with anchoring. plus X usually indicates a rake/ scratching technique performed with the left hand rather than the right, p.m. usually indicates palm muting. On tabs that is.

[Tristis]

It doesn't say he should mute it, so it's stupid to do. Unless it explicitly states 'X' on the chord or tab, you don't mute. It's that simple.

i think it's more or less dependent on the person's playing style. some people I know tend to mute the strings below the ones they intend to strum just in case they mess up somehow and strum extra strings.

and the X is usually meant for muting and strumming the muted strings for a scratch or whatever it's called. in most cases, the palm mute is denoted with a p.m.

it's pretty much optional and done mostly as a precaution, but if you ask me, it isn't really necessary. just practice on precision strumming, you'll need it later anyways.

[Naruto514]

help me! im in need of intensive help! i cant move my pinky very well coz wen i try to move it the cartillage tends to lock. but since its a bit wet it releases. its a bit hard to press on the fingerboard. any help?

[Tristis]

um...you're going to need to explain things in a bit more detail. For starters, I'm not exactly clear about what instrument it is that we're looking at.

[Fongie]

I think the most confusing word in that post was "wet". Eh? Anyway, it sounds like something you should see a doctor for, if your pinky locks up.. well it's hard to believe we can help you with that :/

[Hangatýr]

Just break your pinky.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

help me! im in need of intensive help! i cant move my pinky very well coz wen i try to move it the cartillage tends to lock. but since its a bit wet it releases. its a bit hard to press on the fingerboard. any help?

hmm im a little confused as well but it sounds like all you need is some practice unless you actually did mean wet in which case im completly lost. But yeah i suggest writing a song or riff that utilizes your pinky (make it complex but start off slow then pratice until you get better and faster)

[Hangatýr]

No need to write a song, you can just keep on stretching them while playing scales.

That, or just attempt to play Buckethead's 'Whitewash', great practice. Same goes for Steve Vai's 'Eugene's Trick Bag' if you want to practice sweeping and tapping.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

bump

we shouldnt let this thread die

[Hangatýr]

Was it off the first page? If not, don't bother bumping.

[google123]

I have one important question serving an argument with someone. Is there a battery in an electric guitar, and if so, where?

[Hangatýr]

No, there isn't a battery, unless it's a Line6 Variax or some other digital guitar, like that Intel Telecaster.

[google123]

So totally pwned! Thank you, for your no-battery confirmation!

[Hangatýr]

No problem.

And might I add, it's pretty silly to think that there are batteries in an electric guitar, if all you have to do is plug in and play.

[google123]

Yeah, well, I'm talking about this dumb asshole who chucked me out her house, doesn't know that bass tabs can and will change from the lead guitar tabs, thinks guitars have batteries...

[Hangatýr]

Is she by any chance in posession of Down Syndrome?

[TheVagrantHeroes]

I have one important question serving an argument with someone. Is there a battery in an electric guitar, and if so, where?


Usually not stock giutars but guitars that use active pickups like emgs will require a battery. There is usually a little compartment in the back that opens and you can see some wires, if there is space the battery will be there if no space then there will have to be some drilling. Also the battery will only be "on" when the guitar is plugged in (there is no switch or anything) , thats why people with certain guitars/ pickups dont leave their guitars plugged in but its not that big of a deal just replace the battery.

All people saying no please learn your facts becasue it can go either way (having a battery and guitar)

[Violence Fight]

Speaking of crazy music school. What happened to the original music help thread?


Anyway, Best advice for budding guitarists is this, once you learn a particular scale, practice it up and down the neck until you know every interval and position to play from by heart. Also if you want to be precise, and also pick up some speed, go get a metronome and use that to practice. Look into alittle music theory(you really just need basic stuff, unless you want to get into some deep ish. basically you need to know scale formulas, relative major/Minor, and basic chord progression knowledge.), and

Most people will tell you that you don't need theory...and honestly, there are alot of guitarists that do not know theory and still rock. Myself, I'm just a guy who likes to know why what I'm playing sounds right.

And in closing, remember to do 2 things. One, when playing scales, try to use alternate picking(Up-Down-Up-Down-Up-Down), and always use your pinky. that finger will become crucial if you ever want to be really good. I just started using it about 1.5 years ago(I've been playing for 5 years or so which, isn't much by most standards) and it amazed me when I realized I could've progressed so much farther, so much faster if I had done those 2 things the whole time as opposed to being a self-righteous jackass who couldn't be wrong.


Cheers for the music help thread. I love talking Music knowledge with people.

[TheVagrantHeroes]

bump + thats great advice, although theory isnt nessecary it does help a lot every one should learn a bit, it cant hurt.

[destroy_musick]

if you want to write blues, prog or anything complex and layered, theory is crucial.