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furious styles
04-02-2005, 10:11 PM
He already made his own, I'm just making it official!
Marty is a good guy and sort of a whore. He just wants attention (and Dani).
Read the next post for members and ranks!
martryn
04-02-2005, 10:19 PM
I have decided to convert my own new member thread into a FC for myself.
President
me
Vice-President
Cable
funjat (Secretary of Defense)
Supreme Court
CCHT (Chief Justice)
Citizens
Lynxe
bettymae
Smoochy the Rhino
jkingler, Earl of Northumbria
Deery
vanh
Amęthσn
Pachees N' Cream
Nan Desu Ka
Setoshi aka Haruka
falconmain
04-02-2005, 10:25 PM
copy cat :P
Welcome!!! now if you ever need any help just PM KnK constantly till you get a line through your name then you know you have her attention. I have many other pearls of wisdom but I don't want to give them all away at once :P
ok one more nugget.........If you try to crawl through an air duct make sure it leads to some place other then in a circle :omg
Konata Izumi
04-02-2005, 10:33 PM
welcome to the forums...wait a minute...
Reznor
04-02-2005, 10:38 PM
Welcome to the forum martryn!
Be sure to join the Genma FC.
Aregashi
04-03-2005, 02:42 PM
i dont know you and you dont know me.... so im gonna say hello...
LordStronghold
04-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Hello all :cool
Anti-Geek
01-15-2006, 02:59 PM
Why does everyone loves Itachi and Sasuke and have all those banners and sigs about them? I love when I see people saying that their childhood was a golden age... and everything was perfect. And then having an avatar with Itachi busting Sasuke's ass or something gay like that.
First Itachi screwed Sasuke's life for good.
Second Sasuke is a narrow minded ninja who turned his back to the ones who loved him.
Why do people love both characters?
Bunch of retards if you ask me...
There are people with banners saying "Who could hate such a cute boy? Lil' Sasuke FC" and "Innocent Baby Love" between Sasuke and Naruto.. among other retarded stuff. You all need a life and real people around you. Stop living through animes and making threads like "Who is hotter?" and what more. Losers...
If someone says he don't like them all the fanboys start neg reping him. Damm geeks. And I love how some of you spent hours composing threads like "Why Sasuke isn't a traitor" and "Final Proff AL is Yondaime" or "Why I hate Sakura"... Jesus...
Im going to be all neg reped! Hurray to the fan boys!!!
If you don't understand all complexity of the relations between Naruto and Sasuke, or Sasuke and Itachi, that doesn't give you the right to call anyone a retard..
My advice would be just sit and keep your mouth shut..
It was disscussed here many times already (about Sasuke, Itachi etc..), but it seems you didn't bothered to search..
P.S. Very SIMPLE solution to your problems. DON'T VISIT THE FORUM.
Easy huh? Will keep you away from all the geeks and retards..
blackdragon2187
01-15-2006, 03:10 PM
LOL i don't like Sasuke, but i do like Itachi.
Some people are loser like that, spending half a day defending there favorite character and stuff.
Hmm i don't know why i like Itachi, wouldn't say b/c he very strong....i guess b/c he a very complex character and he's basically full of mystery, i never like a character for only how much strength they have or the type of justu the kow it was always about there personalities...i guess that's why i'll never like Sakura :/
I won't neg-rep you for your opinion, hey i respect what your saying, but not everyone likes Sasuke or Itachi.
Dyroness
01-15-2006, 03:14 PM
Everyone has the right to like any character, and express that feeling in any form or sort.
Kyuubi Naruto
01-15-2006, 03:17 PM
- Some people like Uchihas
- Some ppl like Itachi bc he fucked up Sasuke and they hate Sasuke
- Some ppl like Sasuke because he was abused by Itachi and they hate Itachi
Theres more reasons but ill agree with what Dyro said.
Chamcham Trigger
01-15-2006, 03:18 PM
Jesus f**king christ. They just like them. There are a lot of people with Gaara sigs/avies, and many people with Naruto avies. Kakashi's another character with a rabbid following. People choose who they like and express it. One, many, there is no difference in the case of avies and sigs.
Yakushi~Kabuto
01-15-2006, 03:19 PM
whatever, that's not a reason to flame him
*points to post #2*
Inu123
01-15-2006, 03:19 PM
I like Sasuke and Itachi. It doesn't mean that I'm a retard for liking them. Their problems in the series are pretty realistic, and you know, sometimes things don't go the way you want it to.
If I were Sasuke and went through what he had in his childhood then I would probably go to Orochimaru for more power and defeat/kill Itachi. And Itachi is just so mysterious that I want to know more of what's going on in his head.
I respect your opinion that you don't like them, but there is no need to teel everyone would like Sasuke and Itachi that they are retards.
Bunch of retards if you ask me...
Losers...
Im going to be all neg reped! Hurray to the fan boys!!!
You must be really special.
And uh, yeah, you probably deserve all neg reps that come along your way for being such a dumbass.
~ Masamune ~
01-15-2006, 03:21 PM
People just love villains and anti-heroes,it's simple like that.
Yakushi~Kabuto
01-15-2006, 03:22 PM
You must be really special.
And uh, yeah, you probably deserve all neg reps that come along your way for being such a dumbass.
flaming again :omg I guess some people have acquired the right to flame
back on topic
Sasuke is definately a linear and uninteresting character
Itachi can still be interesting when we hear everything about the uchihas
I can understand why he is so pissed off about uchihatards, there are so many of them..
*reps him to counter fanboys neg rep*
Odlam
01-15-2006, 03:24 PM
Dark and moody characters appeal to some people more than others - some people enjoy thier angst - theres a character in the manga for just about everyone if you look around
ChickenPotPie
01-15-2006, 03:25 PM
I don't get it. You're flaming people who make threads like "Who's hotter?"
WTF does that have to do with Itachi and Sasuke fans specifically?
Devilguy
01-15-2006, 03:26 PM
There are people with banners saying "Who could hate such a cute boy? Lil' Sasuke FC" and "Innocent Baby Love" between Sasuke and Naruto.. among other retarded stuff. You all need a life and real people around you. Stop living through animes and making threads like "Who is hotter?" and what more. Losers...
If someone says he don't like them all the fanboys start neg reping him. Damm geeks. And I love how some of you spent hours composing threads like "Why Sasuke isn't a traitor" and "Final Proff AL is Yondaime" or "Why I hate Sakura"... Jesus...
Im going to be all neg reped! Hurray to the fan boys!!!I agree with you, they shall burn in hell! There are even retards who create flamebaiting threads such as "Why does everyone love Sasuke and Itachi"...
It's the pot calling the kettle black.
Kyuubi Naruto
01-15-2006, 03:29 PM
flaming again I guess some people have acquired the right to flame
Funny since its coming from someone who was banned for 3 days for doing so. :laugh
Ontopic, everyone has a favorite so its great to express them no matter what. :)
FrouFrou
01-15-2006, 03:31 PM
some just like the art :o
flaming again :omg I guess some people have acquired the right to flame
You're a great comedian since I don't recall getting banned multiple times for flaming/negative repping, unlike say....you.
back on topic
Sasuke is definately a linear and uninteresting character
Itachi can still be interesting when we hear everything about the uchihas
I can understand why he is so pissed off about uchihatards, there are so many of them..
He can put his opinion about a character without being a complete idiot about it and using an argument with you "losers" or "retards". It's obvious someone like him isn't mentally mature or developed enough yet to understand why this is.
*reps him to counter fanboys neg rep*
Did you even need to put this? I never neg-repped him at all in the first place.
Yakushi~Kabuto
01-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Funny since its coming from someone who was banned for 3 days for doing so. :laugh
that's exactly why I wonder other "flamers" don't get punished
btw this is the second war taunting you give me in less than hour
so I ask again: when will Kyuubi Naruto be punisher for his countless war tauntings?
Ulquiorra Schiffer
01-15-2006, 03:42 PM
that's exactly why I wonder other "flamers" don't get punished
btw this is the second war taunting you give me in less than hour
so I ask again: when will Kyuubi Naruto be punisher for his countless war tauntings?
Something I've learned is that KN-sama straightens people out. I've had an encounter or two with him but I think it's changed me for the better.
On topic:
He can put his opinion about a character without being a complete idiot about it and using an argument with you "losers" or "retards". It's obvious someone like him isn't mentally mature or developed enough yet to understand why.
People like this are meant to be ignored Sho-sama. No point in trying to understand the feeble minded in my opinion.
I agree with you, they shall burn in hell! There are even retards who create flamebaiting threads such as "Why does everyone love Sasuke and Itachi"...
It's the pot calling the kettle black.
Agreed...
Something else I think that should be said is that Sasuke and Itachi are powerful characters. As are Naruto and Sakura. It's just a matter of who you like. And complaining about the fanboys neg-repping you when you have rep that transcends someone with a two post count is just ridiculous. I suppose you could have been posting like crazy in fanclubs and such but still. It's kind of stupid that you're worried about being flamed when all this thread could possibly be is flamebait.
Landfill anyone???
vagnard
01-15-2006, 03:51 PM
Well...I like Sasuke and Naruto...and both of them are rivals. Like other poster said....It's the complexity of their relationship that make both of them appealing. In another post said that one of the problems of this forum is that many guys tend to view all in terms of black or white....if you like sannin then you must hate akatsuki or viceversa....if you like sasuke you must hate Naruto and viceversa....if you like gai you must hate kakashi...etc..... characters aren't excluding between them.
In Berserk for example, my favourite characters are Guts and Griffith and both of them are mortal enemies...(much worse than rival)....but behind that hatred there is an awesome story and a question about how the things get to that point.
Criminal
01-15-2006, 04:01 PM
beautiful post..........if only it had a point. Make yourself a sig sig that bashes people that have itachi/sasuke sigs. That would be the ideal thing to do, not make a thread which sucks away 1 minute of my life I can never get back.
Tobi>>>>>>>>all Uchihas anyway so I don't really care who has itachi or sasuke on their sigs.
that's exactly why I wonder other "flamers" don't get punished
btw this is the second war taunting you give me in less than hour
so I ask again: when will Kyuubi Naruto be punisher for his countless war tauntings?
Yes.. It's the right place to disscuss such things as flamers banning.
Seems you didn't learned your lesson after all.. I wonder when off-topers will be banned..
Anyway.. Seems like original poster just wanted to tease some people..
Whole thread is just one big provocation.
Once again. There is more to NarutoxSasukexItachi than just friend-enemies.
To Anti-Geek,
Check out this thread:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=7990
and especially this thread (the original poster's more up your alley): http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=2610
Something I've learned is that KN-sama straightens people out. I've had an encounter or two with him but I think it's changed me for the better.
On topic:
People like this are meant to be ignored Sho-sama. No point in trying to understand the feeble minded in my opinion.
Agreed...
Something else I think that should be said is that Sasuke and Itachi are powerful characters. As are Naruto and Sakura. It's just a matter of who you like. And complaining about the fanboys neg-repping you when you have rep that transcends someone with a two post count is just ridiculous. I suppose you could have been posting like crazy in fanclubs and such but still. It's kind of stupid that you're worried about being flamed when all this thread could possibly be is flamebait.
Landfill anyone???
I definitely agree with everything you say. Nothing more I could add to that. It's a shame that people can't even discuss things about characters rationally, instead they just randomly flame-bait. This thread was never meant to be anything more than that.
Well no one understands that, if some people wanna think that Itachi is God, i guess we can't change that. :ohWell...I like Sasuke and Naruto...
:huh
Anti-Geek
01-15-2006, 05:19 PM
Now I've got neg reps saying "If you don't want to read things about Naruto don't come to the Forums retard"... LOL
Some of you are so retarted that you can't even see the point of this thread. I enjoy reading discussions about certain aspects in Naruto. I hate and I am asking you why, do you fan boys like to pervert and twist a relationship like the one between Sasuke and Itachi and between Naruto and Sasuke. Stop with the incest and gay thing. You're disrespecting the values Naruto stands for. Damm gay fan boys.
C'mon gimme some more neg reps.. thats your only weapon vs me.
I can see some of you saying to yourselfs "This jerk don't even understand the beauty of a innocent love between Sasuke and Itachi. He can't understand it... its only for illuminated minds"
Uchicha Incest FC
A picture of Itachi and Sasuke... and some of you reach the climax.
This isn't the place for your depravations morrons.
Chamcham Trigger
01-15-2006, 05:23 PM
some just like the art :o
Probably one of the better points that branched off of the main point. People just think certain characters look cool, and thus put them up as their avy and/or sig. Some people take characters they don't even know of in some random anime, or anything actually, and put em up. Whether it's right or not, shouldn't be in question, but in the end, they just use what they like, and there isn't really anything wrong with that.
ChickenPotPie
01-15-2006, 05:26 PM
Some of you are so retarted that you can't even see the point of this thread.
You bashed the people who were responsible for threads like "Final Proof AL is Yondaime" or "Why I hate Sakura", which has no connection to Sasuke or Itachi fans. Can you blame them?
Anti-Geek
01-15-2006, 05:27 PM
To Anti-Geek,
Check out this thread:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=7990
and especially this thread (the original poster's more up your alley): http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=2610
I never said I was Anti Sasuke. I just want to know why people pervet relationships between characters and neg rep others just because they don't agree on Sasuke's or Itachi's powers and ways.
TenshiOni
01-15-2006, 05:28 PM
Holy fuck I can't even watch a movie without some retarded flame war-provoking shit coming up.
Killing this.
Bottom story short: People love villains. People love anti-heroes. People have the right to like whatever characters they want. Respect their opinions.
blaster
01-18-2006, 09:22 AM
Assuming and considered that this thread are the fusion of kurapica & Itachi by means of, something like putara ear rings for example..
and it will name as "Kuritachi" for short^_^ (a kuruta/uchiha fusion)
Now that they fuse, i wanna know how powerfull they are, because each of them possess the 100% of unreaching power in different world like 100% nen user and 100% chackra(jutsu) user.
and then he/they fight against any character of hxh-world and One piece world
can they handled both of the 2 universe?
ydraliskos
01-18-2006, 09:42 AM
I didn't read a word, but your avatar is mesmerising ...
Orotachi
01-18-2006, 09:55 AM
In my opinion, hxh world would be no problem for kuritachi(good name) since kurapica itself can handled 7 out of all members of ryodan team plus the jutsu that kurapica receives from itachi. so all in all, they can easily handled down the geneiryodan.
Using Clones w/ chain & sharinggan would be hard to fight for kuroro besides he can't steal chackra(mangekyou sharinggan)so meaning kurapica can now reserved his chain for finale
now the problem here is the logia users:
ydraliskos
01-18-2006, 10:09 AM
Why settle for that? If you re doing fusions, you can use:
Orichimaru Gin!
Atlast
01-18-2006, 10:20 AM
In my opinion, hxh world would be no problem for kuritachi(good name) since kurapica itself can handled 7 out of all members of ryodan team plus the jutsu that kurapica receives from itachi. so all in all, they can easily handled down the geneiryodan.
Using Clones w/ chain & sharinggan would be hard to fight for kuroro besides he can't steal chackra(mangekyou sharinggan)so meaning kurapica can now reserved his chain for finale
now the problem here is the logia users:
I'll agree w/ that,Althought logia users are powerfull enough,there still way to hold them by holding w/ wet hands or weapons.
Raistlin-sama
01-18-2006, 11:53 AM
Since when was Kurapicka the ultimate nen-user?
I most certainly never realized this "fact".
Hunter x Hunter and One Piece wins this easily.
lekki
01-18-2006, 12:48 PM
I agree. Kurapica has devastating moves against the Genei Ryodan.
Against other nen-users, his moves are ok atbest.
Even with Itachi's eyes, he wouldn't make it out of the HxH universe to bother Luffy and co.
Atlast
01-18-2006, 01:24 PM
kurapica/itachi fussion can handled down all hxh characters cuz if someone like kuroro will steal his nen abilities(maybe his chain) he's useless! not unless he can use jutsu or mangekyou sharingan/gyou(i hope now that they could catch it w/ their combined eyes^_^)of itachi/kurapica plus the nen basics such as ten,ren,ken,shou and kou w/taijutsu would probably defeat kuroro and the rest of the ryodan.
the ninjutsu like grand katon no jutsu or chidori will somehow work alittle as well.
and the genjutsu like tsukiyumi is much dangerous than paku's bullet
well if not the amaterasu will guarantee it...........edit:maybe one by one
Orotachi
01-18-2006, 03:42 PM
kurapica/itachi fussion can handled down all hxh characters cuz if someone like kuroro will steal his nen abilities(maybe his chain) he's useless! not unless he can use jutsu or mangekyou sharingan/gyou(i hope now that they could catch it w/ their combined eyes^_^)of itachi/kurapica plus the nen basics such as ten,ren,ken,shou and kou w/taijutsu would probably defeat kuroro and the rest of the ryodan.
the ninjutsu like grand katon no jutsu or chidori will somehow work alittle as well.
and the genjutsu like tsukiyumi is much dangerous than paku's bullet
well if not the amaterasu will guarantee it...........edit:maybe one by one
Finally someone got my word!
Despite of hxh is much faster than naruto-verse..,itachi coudn't use his mangekyou sharinggan because hxh-world are too fast.
Now that they fuse with kurapica, i can now proud to say that itachi's jutsu and mangekyou sharinggan will finally works:laugh (i don't care if i loss to logia users:notrust) against geneiryodan. besides kurapica is too fast that can catch bullets w/ his chain and then get fussion w/ itachi well, i think they will be the most powerfull.anyway, i'll just reserve the chain of kurapica for finale.
now the Small Scenario here is:
1.if hisoka throw cards against kuratachi heck, to bad cuz they can use the kawarimi no jutsu now properly:laugh hisoka will get frustrated:amuse
2.if the rising sun starts w/ feitan. well, kuratachi can just hide off the ground + the use of IN w/ ease:amuse and then grab feitans feet on the ground and paralyse it.
3.if phinx managed to fight him mano y mano, to bad again cuz kuratachi will use konoha sempo w/ kou to his jaws then KO.
4.if kuratachi fight against luffy or zoro, all i can say is base on what i've seen about luffy, luffy is a character who always look at the eyes of his opponent seriously. so what if luffy just fall into the trap of mangekyou shariggan, i'm sure he won't escape from tsukiyumi plus amaterasu.:amuse
5.i've no idea if amaterasu will work against Ace, but maybe i think so..
Death Fog
01-18-2006, 04:08 PM
Since when did Itachi became so powerful that it would actually make this fusion powerful enough to take on BOTH HxH and OP? If Kurapica and Itachi fused, there would be no significant powerup, AT ALL. The fusion would only be a teeny weeny bit stronger than Kurapica by himself.
Heck now that I think about it, wouldnt the Fusion be much weaker instead? Theyre using the Potarra Earring, right? And if I remember correctly, if a person used the Potarra Earrings to fuse with someone much much weaker than him, it wouldnt make them stronger at all. It would make the fusion less powerful instead. Goku said something like that when he thought of fusing with Hercule.
So Im sorry Kurapica and Itachi fans, this is a CURBSTOMP in favor of HxH and OP.
Orotachi
01-18-2006, 04:14 PM
Since when did Itachi became so powerful that it would actually make this fusion powerful enough to take on BOTH HxH and OP? If Kurapica and Itachi fused, there would be no significant powerup, AT ALL. The fusion would only be a teeny weeny bit stronger than Kurapica by himself.
Heck now that I think about it, wouldnt the Fusion be much weaker instead? Theyre using the Potarra Earring, right? And if I remember correctly, if a person used the Potarra Earrings to fuse with someone much much weaker than him, it wouldnt make them stronger at all. It would make the fusion less powerful instead. Goku said something like that when he thought of fusing with Hercule.
So Im sorry Kurapica and Itachi fans, this is a CURBSTOMP in favor of HxH and OP.
if you analyze the original post, you'll see blaster is trying to example the potara earings(not that literral) rather than to make a fictional magical imagination:amuse so i'm sorry cuz this is a doomsday in favor of kurapica/itachi over HxH but not sure in One piece
Death Fog
01-18-2006, 08:11 PM
You like to keep underestimating HxH, dont you? Even if they arent using the Potarra Earrings, it still doesnt say much. If they ever fuse, the insignificance of Itachi will only make this fusion a tiny bit stronger than Kurapica himself.
And Kurapica is NOT, I repeat is NOT, the strongest character in HxH. He does have an ability specifically designed to fight the Ryodan, but even then its debateable if he can beat all of the stronger members. I seriously doubt he could beat Kuroro. Kuroro's regarded as one of the strongest characters in the show and held his own for a while against 2 of the strongest assassins. Kurapica cant beat him, Chain Jail or not.
And no. As Ive said Itachi wouldnt matter much here. No one in this thread ever gave a convincing argument(including you) as to the importance of Itachi if he fused with Kurapica. What will "Kuritachi" do? Use Tsukiyomi? There are people in HxH who can most certainly withstand it --> Hisoka, Killua, the Zoldick Family, Ubougin.
What else? Amaterasu? Heh, Kuritachi should much rather use Kurapica's own abilities than this. Amaterasu can be avoided, especially by the faster people, regardless of Itachi, Kurapica or Kuritachi using it.
About Taijutsu, Kurapica's martial fighting ability is much better than Itachi's Taijutsu based on what Ive seen. So no, Taijutus would be virually useless here. Kuritachi would most likely use Kurapica's fighting prowess most of the time. And there are still a number of people who will beat Kurapica in hand-to-hand combat.
So all in all, HxH is not doomed. Theyre far from it. This is a CURBSTOMP in favor of them.
Linkage
01-18-2006, 08:34 PM
You like to keep underestimating HxH, dont you? Even if they arent using the Potarra Earrings, it still doesnt say much. If they ever fuse, the insignificance of Itachi will only make this fusion a tiny bit stronger than Kurapica himself.
And Kurapica is NOT, I repeat is NOT, the strongest character in HxH. He does have an ability specifically designed to fight the Ryodan, but even then its debateable if he can beat all of the stronger members. I seriously doubt he could beat Kuroro. Kuroro's regarded as one of the strongest characters in the show and held his own for a while against 2 of the strongest assassins. Kurapica cant beat him, Chain Jail or not.
And no. As Ive said Itachi wouldnt matter much here. No one in this thread ever gave a convincing argument(including you) as to the importance of Itachi if he fused with Kurapica. What will "Kuritachi" do? Use Tsukiyomi? There are people in HxH who can most certainly withstand it --> Hisoka, Killua, the Zoldick Family, Ubougin.
What else? Amaterasu? Heh, Kuritachi should much rather use Kurapica's own abilities than this. Amaterasu can be avoided, especially by the faster people, regardless of Itachi, Kurapica or Kuritachi using it.
About Taijutsu, Kurapica's martial fighting ability is much better than Itachi's Taijutsu based on what Ive seen. So no, Taijutus would be virually useless here. Kuritachi would most likely use Kurapica's fighting prowess most of the time. And there are still a number of people who will beat Kurapica in hand-to-hand combat.
So all in all, HxH is not doomed. Theyre far from it. This is a CURBSTOMP in favor of them.
woah!!! Orotachi >>>>> owned!!!
Blood Dawn
01-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Gin >>>>> Kuraitachi.
Orotachi
01-18-2006, 08:54 PM
woah!!! Orotachi >>>>> owned!!!
You got it!
Orotachi
01-18-2006, 09:32 PM
You like to keep underestimating HxH, dont you? Even if they arent using the Potarra Earrings, it still doesnt say much. If they ever fuse, the insignificance of Itachi will only make this fusion a tiny bit stronger than Kurapica himself.
Hey mis,How can you be so sure that itachi can't make a teeny weeny shared power w/ kurapica? don't you realize, itachi can wipeout an entire clan or village if he wants too, another one those he wipeout are not just only ordinary people those are the one who have sharinggan who has a lot of technique than a usual ninja plus most of them are ninjas like him.(i wonder if itachi can wipeout those kuruta tribe alone:amuse) meaning to say, your the real one who is truly underestimating Naruto verse in unexplainable way.
And Kurapica is NOT, I repeat is NOT, the strongest character in HxH. He does have an ability specifically designed to fight the Ryodan, but even then its debateable if he can beat all of the stronger members. I seriously doubt he could beat Kuroro. Kuroro's regarded as one of the strongest characters in the show and held his own for a while against 2 of the strongest assassins. Kurapica cant beat him, Chain Jail or not.
well, i don't care if he's not the strongest or not i only follow this thread that's for sure.that's why if he couldn't beat kuroro it's because he's a theif of nen abilities i recommend kuratachi to use mangekyou sharinggan note: that they're fused w/c means they could now catch it w/ their combined eyes.
And no. As Ive said Itachi wouldnt matter much here. No one in this thread ever gave a convincing argument(including you) as to the importance of Itachi if he fused with Kurapica. What will "Kuritachi" do? Use Tsukiyomi? There are people in HxH who can most certainly withstand it --> Hisoka, Killua, the Zoldick Family, Ubougin.
How can you say that withstand it? heck,its impossible not everyone could do that besides if ryodan team got effected to much on paku's bullet & it seems that tsukiyumi is much dangerous than that.
now, i'll give a perfect proved that suits your vote:
if you remember illumi(he's excemption here), i think his the only person,again only person who can withstand tsukiyumi(that makes person a fully sword cushion on his brain) rather than killua who seems to be different on his brother.
take a look at this below:
http://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killua.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killuab.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killuac.jpg
you'll see there, that killua is obviously avoided or stopped that single dart w/c will actually pierced on his brain. so meaning to say that he can actually hurt if his of 3 days of nonstop piercing the sword on his brain by tsukiyumi.
What else? Amaterasu? Heh, Kuritachi should much rather use Kurapica's own abilities than this. Amaterasu can be avoided, especially by the faster people, regardless of Itachi, Kurapica or Kuritachi using it.
Don't you understand again,now that they Fused the easiest way to catch their opponents w/ amaterasu is their combined eye sight meaning they can now hit the target instantly!
Oh, and for the final question:
why are you(kuroro) avoiding amaterasu?
answer(Kuroro): are you insane if i touch it, it will wipe me out, and i can't steal that one:cry
About Taijutsu, Kurapica's martial fighting ability is much better than Itachi's Taijutsu based on what Ive seen. So no, Taijutus would be virually useless here. Kuritachi would most likely use Kurapica's fighting prowess most of the time. And there are still a number of people who will beat Kurapica in hand-to-hand combat.
Oh! really, and what kind of fighting style are you talking about heck!
kurapica's fighting abilities are no match against the absolute Genius ninja(itachi)he'll be like sasuke if he fight itachi without nen(taijutsu vs. his own martial arts).note: itachi could hide under the ground, walk through walls and deep water while fighting, hope that geneiryodan could fight like that or else their drowned^_^
So all in all, HxH is not doomed. Theyre far from it. This is a CURBSTOMP in favor of them.
So all in all, its a fair & good fight. i didn't necessarily considered of wtf your talking about.
Death Fog
01-19-2006, 02:14 AM
Hey mis,How can you be so sure that itachi can't make a teeny weeny shared power w/ kurapica? don't you realize, itachi can wipeout an entire clan or village if he wants too, another one those he wipeout are not just only ordinary people those are the one who have sharinggan who has a lot of technique than a usual ninja plus most of them are ninjas like him.(i wonder if itachi can wipeout those kuruta tribe alone:amuse) meaning to say, your the real one who is truly underestimating Naruto verse in unexplainable way.
And you realized that what Itachi is facing here arent normal people as well. Slaughtering the Uchiha Clan proves NOTHING when he's against HxH characters. How many times must people tell you that HxH>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto? ALL your arguments about Naruto being in the level of HxH in this thread and past other threads has been countered by me and other people already. So what's the deal? It remains that you underestimate HxH and severely overestimate Naruto.
well, i don't care if he's not the strongest or not i only follow this thread that's for sure.that's why if he couldn't beat kuroro it's because he's a theif of nen abilities i recommend kuratachi to use mangekyou sharinggan note: that they're fused w/c means they could now catch it w/ their combined eyes.
How can you say that withstand it? heck,its impossible not everyone could do that besides if ryodan team got effected to much on paku's bullet & it seems that tsukiyumi is much dangerous than that.
now, i'll give a perfect proved that suits your vote:
if you remember illumi(he's excemption here), i think his the only person,again only person who can withstand tsukiyumi(that makes person a fully sword cushion on his brain) rather than killua who seems to be different on his brother.
take a look at this below:
http://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killua.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killuab.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/yujiro_fuma/killuac.jpg
you'll see there, that killua is obviously avoided or stopped that single dart w/c will actually pierced on his brain. so meaning to say that he can actually hurt if his of 3 days of nonstop piercing the sword on his brain by tsukiyumi.
Seriously, you make it sound like Mangekyou Sharingan is unbeatable. Who did Tsukiyomi kill when we saw it? NONE. Sasuke is explainable. But what about Kakashi? Base on Kisame being surprised that it didnt kill Kakashi, it did seem that Itachi was trying to kill him with Tsukiyomi. But as we saw it didnt kill Kakashi. So what makes you think that Kuroro and HxH characters would be killed by it? Besides whats to stop HxH characters from protecting their body with nen when Kuratachi tries to torture them in Tsukiyomi?
As long as we didn't saw(prove) that uboogin,hisoka was fall into the trap of tsukiyumi because others here including you who keep avoiding hisoka, for example from tsukiyumi. now that i said that, i feel now that they're coward.meaning tsukiyumi has a big purpose here. i won't matter your say. infairness
I have no idea what you just said here. The reason why I brought up Ubougin and Hisoka is because they can withstand Tsukiyomi even without protecting themselves with nen. In the case of Hisoka, refer to his fight with Kastro in the Celestial Tower where he VOLUNTARILY cut off both of his arms JUST FOR SHOW. He later remarked that he'd happily cut off both of his arms again just to see Machi's nen-stitching. Now tell me, what makes you think Hisoka wont survive it?
I shouldnt explain much about Ubougin. If you really read HxH, you should know why he wouldnt be hurt by whatever Itachi throws at him even inside Tsukiyomi.
Don't you understand again,now that they Fused the easiest way to catch their opponents w/ amaterasu is their combined eye sight meaning they can now hit the target!
And dont you undertsand as well that Itachi isnt much of a factor here? This fusion will mostly be dominated by Kurapica's strength. So no. Their "combine eye sight" isnt the end all-be all here.
Oh, and for the final question, why are you(kuroro) avoiding amaterasu?
answer(Kuroro): it will wipe me out, and i can't steal it:cry
Because he's fast enough to avoid it, simple as that. Refer to his fight with Zeno and Silva and also what he did to Neon.
Oh! really, and what kind of fighting style is what are you talking about heck! kurapica's fighting abilities are no match against the absolute Genius ninja(itachi)he'll be like sasuke if he fight itachi without nen(taijutsu vs. his own martial arts).note: itachi could hide under the ground, walk through walls and deep water while fighting, hope that geneiryodan could fight like that or else their drowned^_^
Go to Kurapica's fight with Ubougin. Look at how he handled Ubo in the small hand-to-hand scuffle they had. And your saying that just because Itachi can fight in water or can hide underground he's already better than Kurapica in hand-to-hand combat, is that it? Are you trying to justify it by using this things as "proof"? You have to do better than that, matey.
So all in all, its a fair & good fight. i didn't necessarily considered of wtf your talking about.
No its not a fair and good fight. Its an unfair fight. There are many people in HxH who will beat Kuratachi.
btw, you should get used in considering what people say because Im not the only one you'll be hearing from if you continue being illogical.
Since when did Itachi became so powerful that it would actually make this fusion powerful enough to take on BOTH HxH and OP? If Kurapica and Itachi fused, there would be no significant powerup, AT ALL. The fusion would only be a teeny weeny bit stronger than Kurapica by himself.
Perfect. Couldnt have said it better. This is just pathetic, Kurapica's nen ability is especially designed to face the Genei Ryodan, if he uses it on someone else he dies. If you have read the manga then you should know that there are many characters on same level as the Genei Ryodan and some even above them.
This thread is pathetic.
Linkage
01-19-2006, 02:30 AM
You got it!
uhh.... that wasnt a compliment towards you at all. what i meant is you got owned by Death Fog.
Knight of Fate
01-19-2006, 06:59 AM
i don't really understand the question o_O.
Orotachi
01-19-2006, 10:10 AM
And you realized that what Itachi is facing here arent
normal people as well. Slaughtering the Uchiha Clan proves NOTHING when
he's against HxH characters. How many times must people tell you that
HxH>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto?
My only point here is,if you compare uchiha clan(ninjas) against kuruta tribe(since if they don't know nen) those uchiha clan are famous because of their bloodline limit(sharinggan) and most of them ninja. unlike kuruta tribes who are wipeout by all geneiryodan. but the uchiha clan was wipeout by itachi alone so what can you say? me personal didn't tolerate naruto world rather than to hear from you my statement, its up to you if you counters it.
ALL your arguments about Naruto being in the level of HxH in
this thread and past other threads has been countered by me and
other people already. So what's the deal? It remains that you
underestimate HxH and severely overestimate Naruto.
"Countered by me?" or you are just ignoring it? if you'll see above,
that my post are capable of explainations w/c you do not answer
literary rather you make some aliby just to change topic.
Seriously, you make it sound like Mangekyou Sharingan is
unbeatable. Who did Tsukiyomi kill when we saw it? NONE. Sasuke is
explainable. But what about Kakashi?{/B] Base on Kisame being
surprised that it didnt kill Kakashi, it did seem that Itachi was
trying to kill him with Tsukiyomi. But as we saw it didnt kill Kakashi.
So what makes you think that Kuroro and HxH characters would be killed
by it? Besides whats to stop HxH characters from protecting their body
with nen when Kuratachi tries to torture them in Tsukiyomi?
So you really don't understand it don't you? itachi says there,that
those who have sharinggan who can survive from sudden death, meaning
itachi didn't test it before for those who have sharinggan only(like kakashi) and he didn't accutually killed kakashi, he just try to show off his
technique.(example: when itachi visualize sasuke from what he did to
their clan) so if itachi totally try to kill a person(w/out sharinggan) with tsukiyumi it would be their last.
I have no idea what you just said here. The reason why I brought
up Ubougin and Hisoka is because they can withstand Tsukiyomi even
without protecting themselves with nen. In the case of Hisoka, refer to
his fight with Kastro in the Celestial Tower where he VOLUNTARILY cut
off both of his arms JUST FOR SHOW. He later remarked that he'd happily
cut off both of his arms again just to see Machi's nen-stitching. Now
tell me, what makes you think Hisoka wont survive it?
me personally, what makes hisoka survive if his head are rip off after
tsukiyumi? seeing his body crap into pieces by slashing swords from
hundreds of itachi.hope that machi is there too^_^
[B]And by the way, those person who victims by kuritachi will be sacrifice by the seal that itachi made^_^. meaning they are now all puppets for kuritachi's clone.notice that those clone won't be despell unless you totally kill the person who inside the possession Example:phinx, sacrifices body after defeat,possess by kuritachi. then he fights feitan...but he's opponent is still kuratachi but not his real body, got it?
So meaning kuritachi can now conserve energy for the rest of the gang....
I shouldnt explain much about Ubougin. If you really read HxH,
you should know why he wouldnt be hurt by whatever Itachi throws at him
even inside Tsukiyomi.
despite that Uboogin was inside tsukiyumi who's been crossifyed,by
hundreds of itachi!
Oh, by the way, why did Uboogin didn't escape from tighted on bed while
he was captured?
Anyway,IT is itachi's world(tsukiyumi) meaning all the way that he
could see is his body are being fatally piercing by swords i mean
hundreds of itachi that taking time cutting him into pieces in 3 days
in 1 second and it can't be despell unless if itachi satisfied.
And dont you undertsand as well that Itachi isnt much of a
factor here? This fusion will mostly be dominated by Kurapica's
strength. So no. Their "combine eye sight" isnt the end all-be all
here.
yeah i know that!, thats why they its call fussion, to completely work
their individual SKILL as a team in one body specially their eye.
umm....why are you sperating this 2 anyway?
Because he's fast enough to avoid it, simple as that. Refer to
his fight with Zeno and Silva and also what he did to Neon.
if it is on DBZ, i actually admiT that they aren't seen by the naked
eye while moving. in the case of kuroro i saw him not much that fast AT
ALL i'm sorry but it seems that he's only visible=MEANING he CAN BE
CAPTURED BY THE EYE... even you, you can see him(kuroro in anime) right? how much more if kuritachi saw him.
Go to Kurapica's fight with Ubougin. Look at how he handled Ubo
in the small hand-to-hand scuffle they had. And your saying that just
because Itachi can fight in water or can hide underground he's already
better than Kurapica in hand-to-hand combat, is that it? Are you trying
to justify it by using this things as "proof"? You have to do better
than that, matey.
well, thanks to his nen! he got that speed and strenght and his chain
so that he could track down his opponent.
anyway, his fighting abilities(w/out nen) aren't much kind of
amusement.and even if you put his nen it seems to be that his cheating
enough against other opponents.what i mean here is fighting style(ninja
or any martial arts),not the strenght or speed.
to test it franklly i would like to fight sasuke w/ kurapica(w/out
nen)meaning his 2 swords and his strenght after pushing 4 tons door
only. it won't be big deal for sasuke cuz he has ninja weapons plus his
taijutsu(much speed) and ninjutsu or chidori.(hope you read or watch
naruto cuz i'm tired to expalain about sasuke) while kurapica seems to
be slow physically.he might be burn by katon no jutsu even he's strong.
No its not a fair and good fight. Its an unfair fight. There are
many people in HxH who will beat Kuratachi.
it seems that if they fused, you can see the result by reading my
second or 3rd post.and i think it would be fair.
However,in case of the unfeatured gin freeces true power or the other
top 5 nen users that hunter association saying, I Won't considered now
that kuritachi will win. specially there is another one piece(logia)
thread which is hard for me to proved that alot.
btw, you should get used in considering what people say because
Im not the only one you'll be hearing from if you continue being
illogical.
I honestly considered on what your saying mate & even others, my
only reason is to show you my point.not to prove it!
Raistlin-sama
01-19-2006, 11:17 AM
My only point here is,if you compare uchiha clan(ninjas) against kuruta tribe(since if they don't know nen) those uchiha clan are famous because of their bloodline limit(sharinggan) and most of them ninja. unlike kuruta tribes who are wipeout by all geneiryodan. but the uchiha clan was wipeout by itachi alone so what can you say? me personal didn't tolerate naruto world rather than to hear from you my statement, its up to you if you counters it.
I read your other posts in this thread, and then this - I didn't bother reading anymore. Seriously this is the most fucked up argument ever. If a cat wipes out 100 mice alone, and 10 tigers kill an elephant together, does it mean that the cat is stronger than one of the tigers individually?
No. Your argument is completely null, not to mention devoid of any common sense.
Orotachi
01-19-2006, 11:46 AM
I read your other posts in this thread, and then this - I didn't bother reading anymore. Seriously this is the most fucked up argument ever. If a cat wipes out 100 mice alone, and 10 tigers kill an elephant together, does it mean that the cat is stronger than one of the tigers individually?
No. Your argument is completely null, not to mention devoid of any common sense.
Oh really!,so you must bother yourself reading first rather than to make a story of cat vs. mice and 10 tigers kill an elephant?
you know sometimes, even a poisonous snake can't harm a cat,not to mentioned if the snake bites the tiger or a single Elephant... well assual it would'be paralyze or die ,don't you think?:amuse
well i'm trying to prove that itachi has a better part of fussioned between kurapica. that he(Death fog) said kuritachi will be power down if he tries to fused between kurapica. Got it.
Death Fog
01-19-2006, 04:41 PM
My only point here is,if you compare uchiha clan(ninjas) against kuruta tribe(since if they don't know nen) those uchiha clan are famous because of their bloodline limit(sharinggan) and most of them ninja. unlike kuruta tribes who are wipeout by all geneiryodan. but the uchiha clan was wipeout by itachi alone so what can you say? me personal didn't tolerate naruto world rather than to hear from you my statement, its up to you if you counters it.
So your saying that because it took the whole Geneiryodan to wipe out the the Kuruta Tribe while only Itachi wiped out The Uchiha Clan, that Itachi is already stronger than the Geneiryodan? How do you even know that the Uchiha Clan is stronger than the Kuruta Tribe. Prove to me that they are stronger.
And no. The Kuruta Tribe most certainly had nen at that time. Since Ubougin said they had a tough time with them.
"Countered by me?" or you are just ignoring it? if you'll see above,
that my post are capable of explainations w/c you do not answer
literary rather you make some aliby just to change topic.
lol!!! Show me where I didnt counter all of your post and changed the topic instead.
"So you really don't understand it don't you? itachi says there,that
those who have sharinggan who can survive from sudden death, meaning
itachi didn't test it before for those who have sharinggan only(like kakashi) and he didn't accutually killed kakashi, he just try to show off his
technique.(example: when itachi visualize sasuke from what he did to
their clan) so if itachi totally try to kill a person(w/out sharinggan) with tsukiyumi it would be their last.
Your the one who doesnt understand. Itachi said that only a Sharingan User who has THE SAME BLOOD AS HIM can survive Tsukiyomi. Go read the damn manga again. Kakashi is not an Uchiha so he doesnt have a blood, yet he survived it. And no. Itachi wasnt trying to show off there, that would be foolish for him to do that. And as I said Kisame expected Kakashi to die by it so Itachi did try to kill him.
"me personally, what makes hisoka survive if his head are rip off after
tsukiyumi? seeing his body crap into pieces by slashing swords from
hundreds of itachi.hope that machi is there too^_^
This is the only good point you had in this whole damn thread. But still you havent countered how HxH characters would just have nen on them to prevent Kuratachi from harming them.
And by the way, those person who victims by kuritachi will be sacrifice by the seal that itachi made^_^. meaning they are now all puppets for kuritachi's clone.notice that those clone won't be despell unless you totally kill the person who inside the possession Example:phinx, sacrifices body after defeat,possess by kuritachi. then he fights feitan...but he's opponent is still kuratachi but not his real body, got it?
So meaning kuritachi can now conserve energy for the rest of the gang....
That is IF he beats Phinx or any of the stronger hunters first, which I seriously doubt he could
despite that Uboogin was inside tsukiyumi who's been crossifyed,by
hundreds of itachi!
Oh, by the way, why did Uboogin didn't escape from tighted on bed while
he was captured?
Anyway,IT is itachi's world(tsukiyumi) meaning all the way that he
could see is his body are being fatally piercing by swords i mean
hundreds of itachi that taking time cutting him into pieces in 3 days
in 1 second and it can't be despell unless if itachi satisfied.
*sigh* I thought you read HxH? Anyway Ubougin wont be affected by it because he has an EXTREMELY durable body. Even Daltzorne's sword(which can cut through steel, if I remember correctly) couldnt even scratch him. So what makes you think those swords in Tsukiyomi will scratch him, let alone pierce him?
yeah i know that!, thats why they its call fussion, to completely work
their individual SKILL as a team in one body specially their eye.
umm....why are you sperating this 2 anyway?
Im not separating the two. Im just saying that Itachi's overall strength will be of little use here. So The Fusion(Kuratachi) will mostly rely on Kurapica's strength. Understand?
if it is on DBZ, i actually admiT that they aren't seen by the naked
eye while moving. in the case of kuroro i saw him not much that fast AT
ALL i'm sorry but it seems that he's only visible=MEANING he CAN BE
CAPTURED BY THE EYE... even you, you can see him(kuroro in anime) right? how much more if kuritachi saw him.
HxH character are also faster than the human eye, you realize that they dodge bullets, right? and about Kuroro, look at this pics:
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/858/hxh96063zl.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hxh96063zl.jpg)
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9792/hxh96089va.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hxh96089va.jpg)
Notice that no one was able to follow Kuroro hitting Neon, even the camera ITSELF. That Nen-User was the only one to see what he did. So yes theyre DEFINITELY faster than the Human Eye. And Kuroro is faster than Kurapica/Kuratachi.
well, thanks to his nen! he got that speed and strenght and his chain
so that he could track down his opponent.
anyway, his fighting abilities(w/out nen) aren't much kind of
amusement.and even if you put his nen it seems to be that his cheating
enough against other opponents.what i mean here is fighting style(ninja
or any martial arts),not the strenght or speed.
to test it franklly i would like to fight sasuke w/ kurapica(w/out
nen)meaning his 2 swords and his strenght after pushing 4 tons door
only. it won't be big deal for sasuke cuz he has ninja weapons plus his
taijutsu(much speed) and ninjutsu or chidori.(hope you read or watch
naruto cuz i'm tired to expalain about sasuke) while kurapica seems to
be slow physically.he might be burn by katon no jutsu even he's strong.
So now your bringing up Kurapica w/out nen? You really like to see HxH get beaten to a pulp do you? No doubt due to your Naruto fanboyishness. And what Kurapica did to Ubougin was not only by speed and strength, he most certainly used martial arts as well.
So yeah, it remains that Kurapica is better than Itachi in hand-to-hand combat.
it seems that if they fused, you can see the result by reading my
second or 3rd post.and i think it would be fair.
However,in case of the unfeatured gin freeces true power or the other
top 5 nen users that hunter association saying, I Won't considered now
that kuritachi will win. specially there is another one piece(logia)
thread which is hard for me to proved that alot.
In your second post, you talked about how Kuratachi wil have the upper hand against Hisoka by just stopping his card. Do you realize that the cards are not Hisoka's main weapon? Its far from it. He has his Bungee Gum with him. You know what that is, right? And you know how versatile and deadly it is, right? Not to mention that Hisoka is no longer a member of the Ryodan, so bye bye Chain Jail :cry.
You also talked about how the fusion will avoid Feitan's Pain Packer, you notice that its the mini version of the freakin' sun, right? Even the ground wont be able to resist the heat of it. The ground will be super hot. So, Im sorry but Kuratachi hiding in the ground will still be killed by Pain Packer - Rising Sun
And about Phinx. lol!!!!! since when did Kuratachi had the Konoha Sempuu at his disposal? That's Gai and Lee's technique. Itachi doesnt have that technique to bring in if he's fused with Kurapica. Get your facts straight, son.
I honestly considered on what your saying mate & even others, my
only reason is to show you my point.not to prove it!
Even if your just making a point, that doesnt mean we'll just sit and allow your biasness to take over the place. All of your posts in this thread and other thread has you considering only what Itachi/Kuratachi might do, while conveniently ignoring what HxH characters can do to them as well.
Perfect Moron
01-19-2006, 09:17 PM
And about Phinx. lol!!!!! since when did Kuratachi had the Konoha Sempuu at his disposal? That's Gai and Lee's technique. Itachi doesnt have that technique to bring in if he's fused with Kurapica. Get your facts straight, son.
I think Itachi saw Gai kick Kisame with it. Not that it makes much difference, tho. I still think this fusion loses badly. But for arguments sake, Itachi would add the sharingan's movement reading to the mix, which would make Kurapica fairly better at hand to hand, and if we assume sharingan can see the flow of aura as it does with chakra, maaaaybe this fusion can copy some abilities from other nen users.
But he still loses.
Orotachi
01-20-2006, 01:27 AM
So your saying that because it took the whole Geneiryodan to wipe out the the Kuruta Tribe while only Itachi wiped out The Uchiha Clan, that Itachi is already stronger than the Geneiryodan? How do you even know that the Uchiha Clan is stronger than the Kuruta Tribe. Prove to me that they are stronger.
And no. The Kuruta Tribe most certainly had nen at that time. Since Ubougin said they had a tough time with them.
first of all, uchiha clan is famous by there ninja skill and their bloodline limit or sharinggan. they're legends right?
which are capable of mastering the 3 jutsu w/ no hard time
second,kuruta tribes are famous only by their scarlet eyes. and it seems that there are no info that kuruta tribes are legends or atleast great warrior.
And Since when did Uboogin said that they have nen? in fact if they have nen maybe they should be all killed i mean imagine how many sacrlet eyes w/ almost the same kind as kurapica(not nessicarily)... they might be all killed!
Your the one who doesnt understand. Itachi said that only a Sharingan User who has THE SAME BLOOD AS HIM can survive Tsukiyomi. Go read the damn manga again. Kakashi is not an Uchiha so he doesnt have a blood, yet he survived it. And no. Itachi wasnt trying to show off there, that would be foolish for him to do that. And as I said Kisame expected Kakashi to die by it so Itachi did try to kill him.
you're almost right but before itachi do that kakashi said it could only be counter by sharinggan & itachi said that's right but even if you have(sharinggan) you might as well can't despell it. those who have BLOOD LINE LIMIT (UCHIHA)can survive it. so it means that atleast you have sharinggan you can still survive but can't be awaken anymore!
This is the only good point you had in this whole damn thread. But still you havent countered how HxH characters would just have nen on them to prevent Kuratachi from harming them.
That is IF he beats Phinx or any of the stronger hunters first, which I seriously doubt he could
Yes indeed,now that they Fused!!!
*sigh* I thought you read HxH? Anyway Ubougin wont be affected by it because he has an EXTREMELY durable body. Even Daltzorne's sword(which can cut through steel, if I remember correctly) couldnt even scratch him. So what makes you think those swords in Tsukiyomi will scratch him, let alone pierce him?
if it is his body on the real world it might be difficult to scrath him (by others^_^)but once you inside(tsukiyumi) i mean his mental mind is the one who really affected. its sounds like it is a powerfull nightmare something like that and he can't be awaken anymore!
Im not separating the two. Im just saying that Itachi's overall strength will be of little use here. So The Fusion(Kuratachi) will mostly rely on Kurapica's strength. Understand?
that's right, that's why itachi's participation is base from his famous jutsu's
HxH character are also faster than the human eye, you realize that they dodge bullets, right? and about Kuroro, look at this pics:
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/858/hxh96063zl.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hxh96063zl.jpg)
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/9792/hxh96089va.th.jpg (http://img461.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hxh96089va.jpg)
Notice that no one was able to follow Kuroro hitting Neon, even the camera ITSELF. That Nen-User was the only one to see what he did. So yes theyre DEFINITELY faster than the Human Eye. And Kuroro is faster than Kurapica/Kuratachi.
What AH!, thats why now they are fused they can now catch it with they're EYES!!!!!!!
So now your bringing up Kurapica w/out nen? You really like to see HxH get beaten to a pulp do you? No doubt due to your Naruto fanboyishness. And what Kurapica did to Ubougin was not only by speed and strength, he most certainly used martial arts as well.
So yeah, it remains that Kurapica is better than Itachi in hand-to-hand combat.
No, i'm just reviewing his fighting ability w/out his nen
And NO! not that one, because itachi is not a nen user maybe i can proud to say if he's a nen user also
so it remains that his participation is his jutsu only
In your second post, you talked about how Kuratachi wil have the upper hand against Hisoka by just stopping his card. Do you realize that the cards are not Hisoka's main weapon? Its far from it. He has his Bungee Gum with him. You know what that is, right? And you know how versatile and deadly it is, right? Not to mention that Hisoka is no longer a member of the Ryodan, so bye bye Chain Jail :cry.
yeah!!! I know that Bungee gum, that one is better to catch an opponent specially if it used w/ IN to it.
that's why if hisoka uses his card, kuritachi will used kawarimi no justu & counters it by shureken and kunai w/ shu right?
now that hisoka is using Bungee gum. well, i recommend now that mangekyou sharinggan will take care of him^_^Again now that they're Fused!!!
While fighting at Hisoka, kuritahi will notice and learn every fighting strategy of hisoka! well i guess you won't believe it! but to tell you the truth,even atleast a single writing system of a person(note: a person not a fighter) can copy it how much more about what they saw about hisoka!
this are the other characteristic of sharinggan:
it is capable of a unique brand of hypnosis that involves suggesting actions and thoughts to the opponent. Third, it can see through genjutsu, the level of which is possibly dependent on the user's skill. Fourth, it has the ability to predict (and copy) an opponent's movement as well as allowing sight of fast moving objects with great clarity.
So bye bye joker,hope you'll see where you supposed to belong(carnival)^_^
You also talked about how the fusion will avoid Feitan's Pain Packer, you notice that its the mini version of the freakin' sun, right? Even the ground wont be able to resist the heat of it. The ground will be super hot. So, Im sorry but Kuratachi hiding in the ground will still be killed by Pain Packer - Rising Sun
Well, there's no proft about that,while your under the ground you will feel the heat Heck, what about those bunkers in the middle east. supposed that the sand was also capable of heat!
Anyway,remember the small version of teleportation of kabuto right? & orochimaru's teleporting while escaping under the ground after he defeat by tsunade.
i know itachi could do that too!so whats the deal?
Oh! and kuritachi will hit him first by amaterasu before he already completes the rising sun!
And about Phinx. lol!!!!! since when did Kuratachi had the Konoha Sempuu at his disposal? That's Gai and Lee's technique. Itachi doesnt have that technique to bring in if he's fused with Kurapica. Get your facts straight, son.
SAme on you!!!Konoha sempuu is a very common technique of taijutsu,so it remains that itachi could do that also, besides he mastered and countered any GENJUTSU,NINJUTSU AND TAIJUTSU
Even if your just making a point, that doesnt mean we'll just sit and allow your biasness to take over the place. All of your posts in this thread and other thread has you considering only what Itachi/Kuratachi might do, while conveniently ignoring what HxH characters can do to them as well.
The fact about the speed is what i considered in hxh-world.but now they're fused,again it won't matter.
and if we're talking about the strenght maybe we should wait a little more feature about itachi because the 3 most powerfull jutsu is not yet completed as far as the story goes meaning the first 2 are:
Genjutsu =Tsukiyumi
Ninjutsu =Amaterasu
Taijutsu =Susanoa assual it's only base on the 3 most powerful jutsu but i'm not sure if it will be featured. but again, we didn't saw the full potential of itachi's mangekyou sharinggan!
first of all, uchiha clan is famous by there ninja skill and their bloodline limit or sharinggan. they're legends right?
which are capable of mastering the 3 jutsu w/ no hard time
second,kuruta tribes are famous only by their scarlet eyes. and it seems that there are no info that kuruta tribes are legends or atleast great in terms of fighting.
Ubogin said that they put up a great fight. A great fight against Genei Ryodan, the most powerful organization after Hunter, really shows that they have some badass skills.
SAme on you!!!Konoha sempuu is a very common technique of taijutsu,so it remains that itachi could do that also, besides he mastered and countered any GENJUTSU,NINJUTSU AND TAIJUTSUA very common? Where did you get that? Wah? He mastered all genjutsu/ninjutsus/taijutsu? Are you reading the same manga as we are?
This is really pathetic, Kuratachi doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell to beat the whole Genei Ryodan and even if he might have done there are the oldman and his two friends, Gin and Razor/Bomberman who were all clearly stronger then Kurapica.
Orotachi
01-20-2006, 04:54 AM
A very common? Where did you get that? Wah? He mastered all genjutsu/ninjutsus/taijutsu? Are you reading the same manga as we are?
LOL!!! read this one:
http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/content-character%20biographies,uchiha%20itachi
This is really pathetic, Kuratachi doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell to beat the whole Genei Ryodan and even if he might have done there are the oldman and his two friends, Gin and Razor/Bomberman who were all clearly stronger then Kurapica.
LOL AGAIN!!!! if kurapica seems to beat Uboogin w/ ease how much more if they fused w/ itachi who has a lot of jutsu!
and about bomberman it seems that using zetsu + kawarimi no jutsu + kagebunshin shureken W/SHU=Fooled KO bomberman ^_^
Every aspect yes not every style...so you mean that he could do the gentle fist taijutsu too, which is a bloodline limit taijutsu?
Ubogin was brute force, brute force that would shatter any characters bones and Kurapica's technique is DESIGNED to kill the Genei Ryodan, Ubogin just went headon and was killed by the lack of brain.
Yes, and Kurorro will summon a big dragon from hell + use his teleport thing on Kuratachi and get him near the dragon that will eat him.
Orotachi
01-20-2006, 05:04 AM
Not exactly my friend, but the way they fused it seems to be that they combined the aspect of Chackra and nen.
thats why if they use taijutsu, it might automatically performs the use of ten or the products that which capable of strenghtening the physical strenght from nen.
And yes, itachi doesn't need to do a lot of technique.he can just look at kuroro's eyes and then falls into a deep sleep!
Chamcham Trigger
01-20-2006, 06:19 AM
Yikes this is pretty bad isn't it. The H x H world is pretty much possible to make the fusion with Itachi comparable to Goku and Mr Satan (Itachi being Mr Satan ofcourse). I give it to the H x H world by itself without much help from the one piece world if at all.
Raistlin-sama
01-20-2006, 10:42 AM
Oh really!,so you must bother yourself reading first rather than to make a story of cat vs. mice and 10 tigers kill an elephant?
Ever heard of something called an allegory?
No?
I didn't think so either.
Death Fog
01-20-2006, 07:09 PM
first of all, uchiha clan is famous by there ninja skill and their bloodline limit or sharinggan. they're legends right?
which are capable of mastering the 3 jutsu w/ no hard time
second,kuruta tribes are famous only by their scarlet eyes. and it seems that there are no info that kuruta tribes are legends or atleast great warrior.
And Since when did Uboogin said that they have nen? in fact if they have nen maybe they should be all killed i mean imagine how many sacrlet eyes w/ almost the same kind as kurapica(not nessicarily)... they might be all killed!
as peK said, Ubougin explicitly said that they had a hard time against them. You dont get to be a normal human to give the Geneiryodan a hard time.
You have yet to prove how the Uchiha clan is stronger than the Kuruta Tribe.
you're almost right but before itachi do that kakashi said it could only be counter by sharinggan & itachi said that's right but even if you have(sharinggan) you might as well can't despell it. those who have BLOOD LINE LIMIT (UCHIHA)can survive it. so it means that atleast you have sharinggan you can still survive but can't be awaken anymore!
Cant be awaken anymore? Are you reading Naruto AT ALL? Kakashi was awake even after Itachi used Tsukiyomi on him. What the hell are you talking about?
Yes indeed,now that they Fused!!!
No. I doubt they can beat Phinx. And even if he did beat him and possessed his body, it doesnt add up to his strength at all. That technique is used by possessing someone's body and fighting the opponent using that body. It allows the possessor to not use his real body, therefore preventing real injuries but it does not in anyway allow the possessor to use the abilities/strength of the body he possesses. And as we saw, it DOES consume chakra when Kisame and Itachi each had to use 30% of their chakra to use that technique.
That's a foolhardy technique against hunters.
if it is his body on the real world it might be difficult to scrath him (by others^_^)but once you inside(tsukiyumi) i mean his mental mind is the one who really affected. its sounds like it is a powerfull nightmare something like that and he can't be awaken anymore!
This is the Geneiryodan were talking about. These are cold blooded killers who does not regret anything they do. They like fighting/killing people. So what could Itachi possibly do to disable them mentally?
And last time I checked, Tsukiyomi NEVER killed anyone. So what do you have to say for that?
that's right, that's why itachi's participation is base from his famous jutsu's
Itachi's speed and strength is not a factor here. But yes, his jutsus are. But even then, his jutsus wouldnt be of much use here. Almost all of his jutsus weve seen so far are useless against HxH characters in general.
What AH!, thats why now they are fused they can now catch it with they're EYES!!!!!!!
No. Kuratachi aint beating Kuroro.
No, i'm just reviewing his fighting ability w/out his nen
And NO! not that one, because itachi is not a nen user maybe i can proud to say if he's a nen user also
so it remains that his participation is his jutsu only
As I said, his jutsus would only be a minor factor here. Ive already countered every single jutsu you brought up that Itachi uses.
yeah!!! I know that Bungee gum, that one is better to catch an opponent specially if it used w/ IN to it.
that's why if hisoka uses his card, kuritachi will used kawarimi no justu & counters it by shureken and kunai w/ shu right?
now that hisoka is using Bungee gum. well, i recommend now that mangekyou sharinggan will take care of him^_^Again now that they're Fused!!!
What's Kuratachi gonna gain from using Mangekyou Sharingan on Hisoka? Tsukiyomi can be resisted(again, by using nen). And Itachi better not mess with Hisoka mentally because its useless. Hisoka is fucked up in the head. He should also be fast enough to avoid Amaterasu.
While fighting at Hisoka, kuritahi will notice and learn every fighting strategy of hisoka! well i guess you won't believe it! but to tell you the truth,even atleast a single writing system of a person(note: a person not a fighter) can copy it how much more about what they saw about hisoka!
this are the other characteristic of sharinggan:
it is capable of a unique brand of hypnosis that involves suggesting actions and thoughts to the opponent. Third, it can see through genjutsu, the level of which is possibly dependent on the user's skill. Fourth, it has the ability to predict (and copy) an opponent's movement as well as allowing sight of fast moving objects with great clarity.
So bye bye joker,hope you'll see where you supposed to belong(carnival)^_^
Learn Hisoka's fighting strategy? you gotta be kidding me. Kuratachi wont learn anything from Hisoka, he wont be able to predict much from Hisoka. Hisoka is known for being VERY unpredictable. You never know what's he gonna do next. As I said he's fucked up in the head. He does the most unbelievable things without much concern. Read the damn manga.
Hisoka is as strong as Kuroro, if not a bit stronger. So Kuratachi aint beating him especially now that he cant use his Chain Jail.
Well, there's no proft about that,while your under the ground you will feel the heat Heck, what about those bunkers in the middle east. supposed that the sand was also capable of heat!
Anyway,remember the small version of teleportation of kabuto right? & orochimaru's teleporting while escaping under the ground after he defeat by tsunade.
i know itachi could do that too!so whats the deal?
Oh! and kuritachi will hit him first by amaterasu before he already completes the rising sun!
lol!!!! where did the bunker come from? You said that he'll hide in the ground, NOT a bunker. Stop changing things just to suit your arguments. But then again, even if he hides in a bunker, the bunker would still be incinerated. As I said Rising Sun is the mini version of the damn sun. No bunker can resist it.
And about Kabuto and Orochimaru. Its no different than what were talking about(Itachi going under the ground). At the end of the day, the ground will still be COMPLETELY affected by the heat of Rising Sun and Itachi along with it. And no. Kabuto and Oro DID NOT teleport. Where did you get that?
And about Feitan, you really think he's stupid enough to just do nothing, stand there and get hit by Amaterasu?
SAme on you!!!Konoha sempuu is a very common technique of taijutsu,so it remains that itachi could do that also, besides he mastered and countered any GENJUTSU,NINJUTSU AND TAIJUTSU
Very common technique. Yeah, right! Its NOT a common technique. Its a technique specifically used by Gai and Lee. Show me where did it say that its a common technique and that Itachi can use it. And no, dont refer me to naruto websites, those are second hand sources. Use the real thing, the NARUTO MANGA.
The fact about the speed is what i considered in hxh-world.but now they're fused,again it won't matter.
and if we're talking about the strenght maybe we should wait a little more feature about itachi because the 3 most powerfull jutsu is not yet completed as far as the story goes meaning the first 2 are:
Genjutsu =Tsukiyumi
Ninjutsu =Amaterasu
Taijutsu =Susanoa assual it's only base on the 3 most powerful jutsu but i'm not sure if it will be featured. but again, we didn't saw the full potential of itachi's mangekyou sharinggan!
And until we see more of Itachi(which wouldnt change anything, Im afraid), he aint gonna be of much significance in the fusion.
Death Fog
01-20-2006, 07:09 PM
I think Itachi saw Gai kick Kisame with it. Not that it makes much difference, tho. I still think this fusion loses badly. But for arguments sake, Itachi would add the sharingan's movement reading to the mix, which would make Kurapica fairly better at hand to hand, and if we assume sharingan can see the flow of aura as it does with chakra, maaaaybe this fusion can copy some abilities from other nen users.
But he still loses.
Kuratachi wont be able to copy nen-abilities because in order for the Sharingan to copy an ability, it does not only need to read the chakra flow(or in this case nen-flow), it also needs to see the hand seals. And seeing that hunters dont use hand seals in using their abilities, its useless.
About Kuratachi's predicting ability, it will make them better at hand-to-hand combat than Kurapica himself. But theyre still far from beating HxH. In the 3 fights we saw Sharingan users use this predicting ability, 2 fights had the Sharingan user lose. And the other fight had the Sharingan user won, but barely. That also holds true to the Sharingan's ability to follow fast movements, Orotachi.
Orotachi
01-21-2006, 11:41 AM
as peK said, Ubougin explicitly said that they had a
hard time against them. You dont get to be a normal human to give the
Geneiryodan a hard time.
You have yet to prove how the Uchiha clan is stronger than the Kuruta
Tribe.
Well that's your/they fact and i didn't say that uchiha clan is much
stronger than kuruta all i have is, to tell you the facts about uchiha clan,but before i tell you my opinion about kuruta tribe, i think they are peaceful persons and i think they are not WARRIOR. you know kurapica afraids to kill people before he killed Uboogin right?and he didn't said that they're warriors right? kuruta tribe, yes might be strong because of hundreds or thousands of family out there w/c are capable of their red eyes w/c makes them become strong(not as zoldick).imagine more than 10 vs. hundreds or
thousands of family.so they should be crazy to try and said it was a
tough fight
Cant be awaken anymore? Are you reading Naruto AT ALL? Kakashi
was awake even after Itachi used Tsukiyomi on him. What the hell are
you talking about?
What the hell are you talking about? you shouldn't read the mangaforwardly don't you?, you see kakashi slightly wakes up a little bit and talk to itachi but after that he totally falls down!now its your turn why it can be awaken?
No. I doubt they can beat Phinx. And even if he did beat him and
possessed his body, it doesnt add up to his strength at all. That technique is used by possessing someone's body and fighting the opponent using that body. It allows the possessor to not use his real body, therefore preventing real injuries but it does not in anyway allow the possessor to use the abilities/strength of the body he possesses. And as we saw, it DOES consume chakra when Kisame and Itachi each had to use 30% of their chakra to use that technique.That's a foolhardy technique against hunters.
What the hell are you talking about?what's happening to you? kurapica
beat Uboogin's 100% w/ ease & now your telling me that phinx is unbeatable, you gotta be kidding me^_^ you really ignoring what i'm saying mate^_^ now its your turn to prove to that phinx is stronger than uboogin!
This is the Geneiryodan were talking about. These are cold blooded killers who does not regret anything they do. They like fighting/killing people. So what could Itachi possibly do to disable them mentally?And last time I checked, Tsukiyomi NEVER killed anyone. So what do you have to say for that?
Take note: kuritachi not itachi,Anywaydo you saw an episode or manga that geneiryodan fights in mental mind or powerful illusion?NO!!! if not you, might be inventing some story that suits your argument.where did you check that?
Itachi's speed and strength is not a factor here. But yes, his jutsus are. But even then, his jutsus wouldnt be of much use here. Almost all of his jutsus weve seen so far are useless against HxH characters in general.
that's why they're fused they can now combined they're aspect in nen
and jutsu.
and by using sharinggan they can clarify the unseen movement of their opponents.again,for crying outloud! now they've fused. so meaning kurapica can clearly see the movements of his opponent w/ sharinggan. And totally hits the target! (see naruto vs. sasuke fight in manga)
No. Kuratachi aint beating Kuroro.
why shouldn't they?
okay, i'll give you some small scenario:
1.kurapica's chain is specially design to kill all geneiryodan. and you should know about that (i hope so)so what's the deal w/ kuroro?
2.if kuroro tries to get near w/ kuritachi and used some poisonous dagger, well it won't be happen cuz kuritachi will definetely saw kuroro's speed by sharinggan/scarlet eyes!and then throw him some plenty of kagebunshin shureken [B]w/ shu well, there's no doubt that itachi is a bullseye artist^_^meaning kuritachi's technique here is to counter the dagger w/ kunai w/ shu plus ninja skill(jutsu) of itachi against kuroro. again now
that they've fused.
3.again, you mightn't be surprise if kuroro doesn't hit the real kuritachi its because of the bunshins or kawarimi that itachi created for kurapica.you know that kuroro has no alternatives if he hitted by kuritachi right? specially his chain. he has no bunshins or kawarimi no jutsu
4.so what else about will kuroro do?OH!!! the fun fun cloth.... i get it !!!
maam, i'm sorry cuz it might be useless! if kuroro traps kuritachi with
fun fun cloth it might burn by AMATERASU!
OH! tell kuroro to stop stepping them(the cloth) cuz if he touches that
flame it will be your leaders last^_^
Orotachi
01-21-2006, 11:48 AM
As I said, his jutsus would only be a minor factor here. Ive
already countered every single jutsu you brought up that Itachi
uses.
you didn't even yet countered the kawarimi technique,kagebunshins & grand katon no jutsu miss. and mangekyou sharinggan yet mate HAH! not to mentioned that they've avoiding it^_^
What's Kuratachi gonna gain from using Mangekyou Sharingan on
Hisoka? Tsukiyomi can be resisted(again, by using nen). And Itachi better not mess with Hisoka mentally because its useless. Hisoka is fucked up in the head. He should also be fast enough to avoid Amaterasu.
me personally its just acting that he's really a fucked up his head. in
fact he said that he's a moody liar right?base on his personality.
and about the speed:
AGAIN: Sharinggan can clarify unseen movement. plus if hisoka was captured by mangekyou sharinggan while moving, i guess its over.he's not that fast enough. you know that amaterasu performs and unleash by the use of EYE right! so its over if kuritachi sees him.you know that both of them can be captured by their nen weapons.like their chain jail and bungee gum. in fact if both of them captured by their own nen weapons using their individual IN,one things for sure who will win.
okay here some scenario:
1.if both of them captured, kurapica obviously coiled harder the grip against hisoka until it can't be move (see uboogin vs. kurapica)
2.if kurapica was pasted by bungee gum i guess he can controlled easily the body of kurapica right? so it remains that the chain jail will be responsible for gripping harder the body of hisoka until it can't breath(talk about coiling by snake)
3.if hisoka can't free him self well i guess he can't use too much of
his bungee gum right?so its itachi's turn now to suck up hisoka's chackra by travelling across the chain until it downs to zero
now for the sacrifition!
Learn Hisoka's fighting strategy? you gotta be kidding me. Kuratachi wont learn anything from Hisoka, he wont be able to predict much from Hisoka. Hisoka is known for being VERY unpredictable. You never know what's he gonna do next. As I said he's fucked up in the head. He does the most unbelievable things without much concern. Read the damn manga.Hisoka is as strong as Kuroro, if not a bit stronger. So Kuratachi aint beating him especially now that he cant use his Chain Jail.you know, itachi is also fucked up his head! imagine he killed his own clan for unknown reason while hisoka is just a mysterious maniac. but i don't know who's the most of them
anyway,you might said that its unpredictable but again its a movement!what ever you say about hisoka's strategy as long as the sharinggan see it, it won't be factor. he can just predict it(again see naruto vs. sasuke fight)
lol!!!! where did the bunker come from? You said that he'll hide
in the ground, NOT a bunker. Stop changing things just to suit your
arguments. But then again, even if he hides in a bunker, the bunker
would still be incinerated. As I said Rising Sun is the mini version of
the damn sun.
No bunker can resist it.
And about Kabuto and Orochimaru. Its no different than what weretalking about(Itachi going under the ground). At the end of the day, the ground will still be COMPLETELY affected by the heat of Rising Sun and Itachi along with it. And no. Kabuto and Oro DID NOT teleport. Where did you get that?
well, the bunker is just an info to weather the rising sun can just stays its heat off the ground^_^ anyway,whats happening to you?==????another one,where did you get the info that the strong heat of a sun will strikes and stay's on ground?_?you should clarify yourself mate^_^
okay, about kabuto's small version of teleportation, it was just a
trick to avoid the rising sun strenght. got it!
And about Feitan, you really think he's stupid enough to just do
nothing, stand there and get hit by Amaterasu?
yes indeed he's a stupid. imagine he let that chimera ant queen damage
him almost fatally and about amaterasu he can be captured first by chain jail by using IN and then BOOOOOOM!
Very common technique. Yeah, right! Its NOT a common technique.
Its a technique specifically used by Gai and Lee. Show me where did it say that its a common technique and that Itachi can use it. And no, dont refer me to naruto websites, those are second hand sources. Use the real thing, the NARUTO MANGA.
the uncommon technique that you supposed to talk about is the initial lutos or the extreme lotus that lee and gai did. and of course the fact that itachi is a class S ninja.(use your common sense my friend) he supposed to knew a lot about taijutsu right?because sharinggan can easily learn jutsu that's why its ORO's biggest achievement.
those are second hand sources. Use the real thing, the NARUTO
MANGA.
well, i guess my friend that you should really analyze the anime or manga itself(about sharinggan and orochimaru's biggest dream) rather than to make a question from me who's already been answeredby the manga/anime itself. you really should really understand the story from yourself.>_< zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
And until we see more of Itachi(which wouldnt change anything,
Im afraid), he aint gonna be of much significance in the fusion.
well, if thats your opinion it's up to you i keep what's mine. you
should SOMEHOW listen to what i'm saying mate.
because i'm already considering what you & other saying to me right
before or you don't/they listen to me.
last one, i already inclined that this thread is really pathetic from the start and i know this kuritachi can't stay much longer against GIN & other anime series(ONE PIECE)
Orotachi
01-21-2006, 12:13 PM
Ever heard of something called an allegory?
An allegory (from Greek αλλος, allos, "other", and αγορευειν, agoreuein, "to speak in public") is a figurative mode of representation conveying a meaning other than and in addition to the literal. Through allegory a subject of a higher spiritual order is described in terms of that of a lower which is made out to resemble it in properties and circumstances, the principal subject being so kept out of view that we are left to construe the drift of it from the resemblance of the two subjects.
No?
READ ABOVE:amuse
I didn't think so either.
YOU KNOW HOW TO READ?
you don't think so either:amuse
Raistlin-sama
01-21-2006, 12:46 PM
An allegory (from Greek αλλος, allos, "other", and αγορευειν, agoreuein, "to speak in public") is a figurative mode of representation conveying a meaning other than and in addition to the literal. Through allegory a subject of a higher spiritual order is described in terms of that of a lower which is made out to resemble it in properties and circumstances, the principal subject being so kept out of view that we are left to construe the drift of it from the resemblance of the two subjects.
Ahh! So you do know. Perhaps you should try applying that knowledge, no?
Not that it really matters, since I'm quite sure that you understood it in the first place, but just didn't have a good rebuttal.
Death Fog
01-22-2006, 06:09 AM
Well that's your/they fact and i didn't say that uchiha clan is much
stronger than kuruta all i have is, to tell you the facts about uchiha clan,but before i tell you my opinion about kuruta tribe, i think they are peaceful persons and i think they are not WARRIOR. you know kurapica afraids to kill people before he killed Uboogin right?and he didn't said that they're warriors right? kuruta tribe, yes might be strong because of hundreds or thousands of family out there w/c are capable of their red eyes w/c makes them become strong(not as zoldick).imagine more than 10 vs. hundreds or
thousands of family.so they should be crazy to try and said it was a
tough fight
So what's your point? You said that they are capable of red eyes. You know how strong the red eyes ability, right? That reasoning alone should tell you that the Kuruta Tribe are not pushovers and might indeed be stronger than the Uchiha Clan.
Who the fuck cares if you tell me about the facts about the Uchiha Clan? I know EVERYTHING about the Uchiha Clan. And there's NOTHING to suggest that what Itachi did to them is impressive enough to compete against HxH characters. Stop being a Naruto Fanboy.
What the hell are you talking about? you shouldn't read the mangaforwardly don't you?, you see kakashi slightly wakes up a little bit and talk to itachi but after that he totally falls down!now its your turn why it can be awaken?
lol!!!!! and I thought YOU read Naruto manga. Your telling me that I should prove why Kakashi NEVER awakened. lol!!!!! Well the fact that he's still alive and well in the current chapters and JUST RECENTLY FINISHED FIGHTING ONE OF THE AKATSUKI, tells you that he indeed awakened from Itachi's Tsukiyomi. READ THE DAMN MANGA.
What the hell are you talking about?what's happening to you? kurapica
beat Uboogin's 100% w/ ease & now your telling me that phinx is unbeatable, you gotta be kidding me^_^ you really ignoring what i'm saying mate^_^ now its your turn to prove to that phinx is stronger than uboogin!
And when is it a fact that when you beat Ubougin you can beat ANY Geneiryodan? Ubougin is NOT the strongest guy of the Geneiryodan. From what Ive seen of the manga, Phinx is stronger than Ubo. And I dont think Kuaratchi can beat Phinx. Especially NOW that they know about Kurapica.
And besides, the only reason why Kurapica "easily" beat Ubougin is because he TRICKED him into thinking that Kurapica was a Manipulation Type, instead of being Materialization. That made Ubougin focused on the chain itself(because he thought that chain was a real chain, instead of being materialized), therefore he didnt use GYO to see Kurapica using IN on his Chain Jail and avoid it.
Take note: kuritachi not itachi,Anywaydo you saw an episode or manga that geneiryodan fights in mental mind or powerful illusion?NO!!! if not you, might be inventing some story that suits your argument.where did you check that?
Inventing some story that suits my argument? lol!!!! that's my line, Orotachi. And the fact that the Geneiryodan are cold blooded killers who doesnt REGRET ANYTHING, who arent AFRAID OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING, and doesnt CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. Look at Ubougin when Kurapica captured him with Chain Jail and put a Judgement Chain in his heart. Kurapica threatened him that if he didnt answer his questions, he'd die. Yet Ubougin didnt care and didnt answer his question at all. Kuroro doesnt care if he dies and was said to even accept death.
So Im gonna ask you again, how the hell can Itachi mentally break down Ubo or any of the Geneiryodan?
that's why they're fused they can now combined they're aspect in nen
and jutsu.
and by using sharinggan they can clarify the unseen movement of their opponents.again,for crying outloud! now they've fused. so meaning kurapica can clearly see the movements of his opponent w/ sharinggan. And totally hits the target! (see naruto vs. sasuke fight in manga)
Yet last time I checked Sharingan ALMOTS ALWAYS loses to people WITHOUT Sharingan. So what you gonna say to that? The Naruto vs Sasuke fight that you referred to is a prime example of this
why shouldn't they?
okay, i'll give you some small scenario:
1.kurapica's chain is specially design to kill all geneiryodan. and you should know about that (i hope so)so what's the deal w/ kuroro?
Yet its not the be all end all of things. Just because Kurapica has something designed to fight the Ryodan, DOESNT mean that he can beat every single one of them. Chain Jail is a very powerful technique but Kurapica has to catch them first with it. And no. Using IN on Chain Jail isnt gonna help him defeat all of them. Gyo is a counter to In. The only reason Ubougin was caught in it is because he didnt bother using Gyo.
2.if kuroro tries to get near w/ kuritachi and used some poisonous dagger, well it won't be happen cuz kuritachi will definetely saw kuroro's speed by sharinggan/scarlet eyes!and then throw him some plenty of kagebunshin shureken [B]w/ shu well, there's no doubt that itachi is a bullseye artist^_^meaning kuritachi's technique here is to counter the dagger w/ kunai w/ shu plus ninja skill(jutsu) of itachi against kuroro. again now
that they've fused.
3.again, you mightn't be surprise if kuroro doesn't hit the real kuritachi its because of the bunshins or kawarimi that itachi created for kurapica.you know that kuroro has no alternatives if he hitted by kuritachi right? specially his chain. he has no bunshins or kawarimi no jutsu
Think about this. Kage Bunshin distributes chakra(and in this case, nen) equally to the bunshins. Meaning that if Kuratachi decides to use bunshins, his nen/chakra will decrease due to the dispersing of it. I honestly think that's not a good idea to be using against someone of the caliber of Kuroro. Because of the equally dispersed chakra, Bunshins arent exactly strong, y'know. One hit from them and theyre gone. And you also have to consider that Kuroro has HUNDREDS of stolen nen-abilities in his nen-book. Do you honestly think that out of all of this hundreds of abilities at his disposal, he doesnt have something to deal with large numbers of opponents especially large numbers as weak as the bunshins?
Shurikens will cancel out the daggers. But that daggers are FAR FAR FAR from Kuroro's main abilities. So it doesnt say much.
4.so what else about will kuroro do?OH!!! the fun fun cloth.... i get it !!!
maam, i'm sorry cuz it might be useless! if kuroro traps kuritachi with
fun fun cloth it might burn by AMATERASU!
OH! tell kuroro to stop stepping them(the cloth) cuz if he touches that
flame it will be your leaders last^_^
Its a shame you dont know how the Fun Fun Cloth works, its a real shame. Im sorry but Fun Fun Cloth wont be burned by Amaterasu. Once your caught by Fun Fun Cloth, you INSTANTLY shrink into ant-size levels and your STRENGTH along with it. So Amaterasu wont do any more than cause dirt to it. And FYI Fun Fun Cloth isnt the only ability he has. He also that teleportaion ability he use to teleport Nobunaga away from Hisoka. So Kuroro can use that to teleport Kurapica near him and kill him.
Death Fog
01-22-2006, 06:10 AM
you didn't even yet countered the kawarimi technique,kagebunshins & grand katon no jutsu miss. and mangekyou sharinggan yet mate HAH! not to mentioned that they've avoiding it^_^
HAHAHAHAH!!!!! what's Kuratachi gonna do with Kawarimi no jutsu? Beat them with it?? HAHAHAHA Thats only to delay the inevitable, Fanboy. Ive already countered your Kage Bunshins. And the Katon, lol!!! HxH characters has gone through some crazy shit. Killua has been tortured all his life with millions of volts of electricity and great amounts of poison and who knows what other methods of tortures he endured. Ubougin stopped a bazooka designed to destroy tanks in ONE HIT with his bare hands. The Geneiryodan subdued the 2000 strong Mafia community in York Shin. All of which are armed to teeth with modern day weapons, Gon had his arms destroyed and didnt care about it, Hisoka happily let his arms cut off just for show and happily let Machi SEW it back, etc etc etc. Do you want me to go on? So what exactly can a little fire do to beat them? Ive also already countered Mangekyou Sharingan, read all my posts.
me personally its just acting that he's really a fucked up his head. in
fact he said that he's a moody liar right?base on his personality.
and about the speed:
No. Stop making excuses. Hisoka IS fucked up in the head. He's not acting at all. This is stupid, your basically saying this out of your ass just so your argument wont be hurt.
AGAIN: Sharinggan can clarify unseen movement. plus if hisoka was captured by mangekyou sharinggan while moving, i guess its over.he's not that fast enough. you know that amaterasu performs and unleash by the use of EYE right! so its over if kuritachi sees him.you know that both of them can be captured by their nen weapons.like their chain jail and bungee gum. in fact if both of them captured by their own nen weapons using their individual IN,one things for sure who will win.
To which Im gonna tell you again, the Sharingan ALMOST ALWAYS LOSES to someone WITHOUT a Sharingan. And yes, even when the "all seeing movements" of the Sharingan is in use. So dont tell me for a fact that Kuratachi will completely see all of Hisoka's movements without difficulty and win.
okay here some scenario:
1.if both of them captured, kurapica obviously coiled harder the grip against hisoka until it can't be move (see uboogin vs. kurapica)
2.if kurapica was pasted by bungee gum i guess he can controlled easily the body of kurapica right? so it remains that the chain jail will be responsible for gripping harder the body of hisoka until it can't breath(talk about coiling by snake)
3.if hisoka can't free him self well i guess he can't use too much of
his bungee gum right?so its itachi's turn now to suck up hisoka's chackra by travelling across the chain until it downs to zero
now for the sacrifition!
you know, itachi is also fucked up his head! imagine he killed his own clan for unknown reason while hisoka is just a mysterious maniac. but i don't know who's the most of them
anyway,you might said that its unpredictable but again its a movement!what ever you say about hisoka's strategy as long as the sharinggan see it, it won't be factor. he can just predict it(again see naruto vs. sasuke fight)
Did you not read my post AT ALL? Im gonna say it to more clearly this time. KURAPICA. CANT. USE. CHAIN. JAIL. ON. HISOKA. You know why? because Hisoka is NOT a Geneiryodan anymore, and Chain Jail can ONLY be used against the Geneiryodan(as you probably didnt know, to which Im not surprised at all). Heck he was never even a real member in the first place. He's a fake member. The only reason he joined the group is because he wanted to fight Kuroro, thats all.
And its amusing how you always bring up the Naruto vs Sasuke fight to prove that the Sharingan can see and predict movements. You realize that Sharingan LOST to Naruto in that fight? Yes, even when Sasuke used Sharingan to see and predict his movements, it had virtually no effect against Naruto. Sasuke only won because of his Curse Seals, NOT the Sharingan.
And use your common sense. Whats the meaning of "un"predictable, huh? C'mon now. Please dont let me pull out the dictionary and tell you what it means. Your not dumb, are you?
well, the bunker is just an info to weather the rising sun can just stays its heat off the ground^_^ anyway,whats happening to you?==????another one,where did you get the info that the strong heat of a sun will strikes and stay's on ground?_?you should clarify yourself mate^_^
Huh!?!?!? thats the freakin SUN! How the hell would it not heat up the ground? Do you know what the Sun is and how powerful a force it is? Please dont let me educate you on what the sun is, Orotachi. Im pretty sure your not dumb enough for that.
And btw, this post of yours shows that you dont have any counters. Just give up.
okay, about kabuto's small version of teleportation, it was just a
trick to avoid the rising sun strenght. got it!
Kabuto NEVER used Teleportation.
yes indeed he's a stupid. imagine he let that chimera ant queen damage
him almost fatally and about amaterasu he can be captured first by chain jail by using IN and then BOOOOOOM!
So your basically saying that Feitan, who is one of the stronger members of the Geneiryodan, is indeed stupid to just stand there and happily wait for the Amaterasu to hit him? It seems your the one who's stupid. The Chimera Ant had nothing to do with this. Feitan wasnt even at his full strength when he fought that Chimera Ant Queen. He was a bit rusty back then.
the uncommon technique that you supposed to talk about is the initial lutos or the extreme lotus that lee and gai did. and of course the fact that itachi is a class S ninja.(use your common sense my friend) he supposed to knew a lot about taijutsu right?because sharinggan can easily learn jutsu that's why its ORO's biggest achievement.
No. YOU use your common sense. Konoha Sempuu is a specific technique used by Gai and Lee. Itachi being an S-Class is NOT a good example AT ALL. Going by that logic, I might as well say that Jiraiya also knows Konoha Sempuu even though he doesnt seem to be really good at Taijutsu.
And copying Taijutsus is different from copying Ninjutsus and Genjutsus. Did you not read the part where Sasuke still had to train VERY HARD to gain Lee's speed even though he already saw that speed with his Sharingan? Itachi's gonna do the same with Konoha Sempuu. Even though he saw it, it doesnt mean that he can already use it on the fly. He still has to train EXTENSIVELY so that he can have the same physical stats as someone like Gai in order for him to use Konoha Sempuu effectively. And there is NOTHING to suggest that he's been training for it.
well, i guess my friend that you should really analyze the anime or manga itself(about sharinggan and orochimaru's biggest dream) rather than to make a question from me who's already been answeredby the manga/anime itself. you really should really understand the story from yourself.>_< zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
No, no, no my friend. You just cant provide an explanationon your part. Its that simple.
well, if thats your opinion it's up to you i keep what's mine. you
should SOMEHOW listen to what i'm saying mate.
because i'm already considering what you & other saying to me right
before or you don't/they listen to me.
last one, i already inclined that this thread is really pathetic from the start and i know this kuritachi can't stay much longer against GIN & other anime series(ONE PIECE)
Think what you want to think, if that makes you happy. All I know is that your argument is unfounded and many people seem to agree with me on that. And how about you, how many people agree with your point?
Linkage
01-22-2006, 06:20 AM
hey peK since your a mod and all, i just like to ask if Orotachi is eligible for a ban? i mean this ignorant guy is clearly talking out of his ass half the time. So should he be banned?
Haha, not really. I just feel bad for Death Frog who has been trying help Orotachi, but have lost himself.
Orotachi
01-25-2006, 11:26 AM
So what's your point? You said that they are capable
of red eyes. You know how strong the red eyes ability, right? That
reasoning alone should tell you that the Kuruta Tribe are not
pushovers and might indeed be stronger than the Uchiha
Clan.
My point here is, as i said before itachi is a better pair for kurapica and they both partners in this thread. that's it! END OF THIS PARAGRAPH!
STONGER THAN UCHIHA CLAN?what will that strenght do against a clan who controls different art of jutsu?they are not as strong as killua or not even as strong as janes or and they really not warriors!well, in that case if i'm not mistaken, itachi can handled them alone i mean the mission of geneiryodan!okay i'll proved it to
you!
STEP 1
ITACHI will only cast a genjutsu that will force the kuruta tribe to fall into a deep sleep trap!
STEP 2
FINALLY,ITACHI will now use the GOUKAKYOU NO JUTSU (grand fireball) that will definetely finish and burns every house,forest,livelihood
and most of all the entire kuruta clan!
-END OF THIS PARAGRAPH
Who the fuck cares if you tell me about the facts about the Uchiha Clan? I know EVERYTHING about the Uchiha Clan. And there's NOTHING to suggest that what Itachi did to them is impressive enough to compete against HxH characters. Stop being a Naruto Fanboy.
OK Fine!
lol!!!!! and I thought YOU read Naruto manga. Your telling me that I should prove why Kakashi NEVER awakened. lol!!!!! Well the fact that he's still alive and well in the current chapters and JUST RECENTLY FINISHED FIGHTING ONE OF THE AKATSUKI, tells you that he indeed awakened from Itachi's Tsukiyomi. READ THE DAMN MANGA.
NGEEEK!So YOU mean that TSUNADE HEALS HIM? well I'm sorry, because no
such thing as tsunade in geneiryodan^_^
And when is it a fact that when you beat Ubougin you can beat ANY Geneiryodan? Ubougin is NOT the strongest guy of the Geneiryodan. From what Ive seen of the manga, Phinx is stronger than Ubo. And I dont think Kuaratchi can beat Phinx. Especially NOW that they know about Kurapica.
PHINX STONGER THAN UBOOGIN?
yesterday I CHECK THE MANGA, AND IT Virtually says that phinx directly targeted his punch to the chimera ant and pulvarize it WHILE Uboogin punches the ground and marks a big crater and nothing of his opponent body left under the ground.SO the difference btwn this 2 is
clear now.
And besides, the only reason why Kurapica "easily" beat Ubougin is because he TRICKED him into thinking that Kurapica was a Manipulation Type, instead of being Materialization. That made Ubougin focused on the chain itself(because he thought that chain was a real chain,instead of being materialized), therefore he didnt use GYO to see Kurapica using IN on his Chain Jail and avoid it.
umm... now that they fused i don't think that they knew alot of kuritachi's chain to whether it will come out anywhere aside from using IN!
EXample:phinx must be alert because kuritachi will use chain right? so he's using now his gyo.so what will be next?phinx can't go near closer cuz kuritachi is chasing him by his chain.at that time phinx might be surprise if he's been attack from behind or off the ground!because he's just focusing infront of him who's just only a clone!
Inventing some story that suits my argument? lol!!!! that's my line, Orotachi. And the fact that the Geneiryodan are cold blooded killers who doesnt REGRET ANYTHING, who arent AFRAID OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING, and doesnt CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM. Look at Ubougin when Kurapica captured him with Chain Jail and put a Judgement Chain in his heart. Kurapica threatened him that if he didnt answer his questions, he'd die. Yet Ubougin didnt care and didnt answer his question at all. Kuroro doesnt care if he dies and was said to even accept death.
So Im gonna ask you again, how the hell can Itachi mentally break down Ubo or any of the Geneiryodan?
HAHAHAH!<<OPPOSITE TO WHAT NUBONAGA'S PURE HEART!HOHOHOHOHOH!(CRYING)YOU KNOW THAT nubonaga or most of THEM WAS almost SAD WHEN OBOOGIN DIED?RIGHT? and the scene that machi's care about kuroro if hisoka would kill him! is enough reason to show that they really care.
SIMPLE,if paku's gun shot makes them suddenly focus on what they see atleast a seconds.well how much more about tsukiyumi who's just literary break down their mind and killed them by hundreds of chain jail kuritachi!in 3 days in a second
Yet last time I checked Sharingan ALMOTS ALWAYS loses to people
WITHOUT Sharingan. So what you gonna say to that? The Naruto vs Sasuke
fight that you referred to is a prime example of this
YEAH! AND THAT IS KAKASHI AND SASUKE ONLY^_^! the one has no bloodline limit and the other one is simply lack of knowledge and copying different/all jutsu in naruto world
Yet its not the be all end all of things. Just because Kurapica has something designed to fight the Ryodan, DOESNT mean that he can beat every single one of them. Chain Jail is a very powerful technique but Kurapica has to catch them first with it. And no. Using IN on Chain Jail isnt gonna help him defeat all of them. Gyo is a counter to In. The only reason Ubougin was caught in it is because he didnt bother using Gyo.
Now that they fused, using IN and GYO is not only now the factor here.more importantly, if kuritachi will cast a ninjutsu that would imposed the ground to become "STICKY" it would stopped kuroro for moving & is a big point for kuritachi! in a split seconds just like before, kuritachi i mean kurapica will now catch kuroro again!
Think about this. Kage Bunshin distributes chakra(and in this case, nen) equally to the bunshins. Meaning that if Kuratachi decides to use bunshins, his nen/chakra will decrease due to the dispersing of it. [B]I honestly think that's not a good idea to be using against someone of the caliber of Kuroro.[B] Because of the equally dispersed chakra, Bunshins arent exactly strong, y'know. One hit from them and theyre gone. And you also have to consider that Kuroro has HUNDREDS of stolen nen-abilities in his nen-book. Do you honestly think that out of all of this hundreds of abilities at his disposal, he doesnt have something to deal with large numbers of opponents especially large numbers as weak as the bunshins?
Mostly, the one who are non bloodline limits are the one who suffered early exhaustion of using jutsu(kage bunshin) a good example is kakashi!and about sasuke, well let say...he's just lack of knowledge and having no time to practice bunshins instead he's using his own body to finish the fight.
And besides,itachi is now on a highier level form of using jutsu that orochimaru don't know,and its the mangekyou sharinggan!
and about the hundreds of stolen nen abilities that kuroro stolen are not exactly came from strong nen users. most of them are came from gugenka type like fun fun cloth.But indeed kuroro's ability is really dangerous & hard to deal if you are only normal nen user.but a nice amaterasu would burn that directory book for kurapica.
yeh! indeed thats not a good idea(bunshins) to kill!instead, its a good set up for target who is focing on you. imagine if kuroro is focusing on ex: 30 kuritachi infront of him and then most of them has chakcra atleast minimum.what will happen here is kuroro is just focusing on the 30 kuritachi who is assaulting him while the original is hiding its aura/body(waiting for oppurtunities to counter) and then suddenly grabs kuroro with its chain.
Shurikens will cancel out the daggers. But that daggers are FAR FAR FAR from Kuroro's main abilities. So it doesnt say much. Its a shame you dont know how the Fun Fun Cloth works, its a real shame. Im sorry but Fun Fun Cloth wont be burned by Amaterasu. Once your caught by Fun Fun Cloth, you INSTANTLY shrink into ant-size levels and your STRENGTH along with it. So Amaterasu wont do any more than cause dirt to it. And FYI Fun Fun Cloth isnt the only ability he has. He also that teleportaion ability he use to teleport Nobunaga away from Hisoka. So Kuroro can use that to teleport Kurapica near him and kill him.
there's no such thing that AMATERASU Won't work by a nen cloth only! think about this.even thought they're ant size it can possibly burn the nen cloth by as heat as sun!even the frog who can unleaash a fire itself was dominated by AMATERASU HOW MUCH MORE only THE nen CLOTH.and about teleportation of kuroro, well i think its not a good idea,
1.if kuroro managed to go infront of kuritachi, he'll might be caught by chain jail right?or itachi would hypnotize him to sleep if he saw its eye
2.if kuroro used a teleportation just to avoid the chain, it might be useless. cuz kuroro is fighting on a clone w/c is he thought it was him and the real body was just waiting for opportunity to catch him.
3.and if kuritachi is the one who'll be teleported by kuroro in goes infront of him. i'll inclined that is the same as no 1.
Orotachi
01-25-2006, 11:29 AM
HAHAHAHAH!!!!! what's Kuratachi gonna do with Kawarimi no jutsu? Beat them with it?? HAHAHAHA Thats only to delay the inevitable, Fanboy. Ive already countered your Kage Bunshins. And the Katon, lol!!! HxH characters has gone through some crazy shit. Killua has been tortured all his life with millions of volts of electricity and great amounts of poison and who knows what other methods of tortures he endured. Ubougin stopped a bazooka designed to destroy tanks in ONE HIT with his bare hands. The Geneiryodan subdued the 2000 strong Mafia community in York Shin. All of which are armed to teeth with modern day weapons, Gon had his arms destroyed and didnt care about it, Hisoka happily let his arms cut off just for show and happily let Machi SEW it back, etc etc etc. Do you want me to go on? So what exactly can a little fire do to beat them? Ive also already countered Mangekyou Sharingan, read all my posts.
you didn't know basically what kawarimi no jutsu can do?
yeah you're right it won't hurt!but it seems it is hard to fight to a person who's body isUNREAL rather than those who can obviously virtually see and easily targeted.
about uboogins stopped the bazooka.well, the mafia needs 3 anti tank canon to feed this guy.I MEAN THE GRAND FIREBALL JUTSU that creates a road on the ground WILL SUIT THIS GUY.
and about hisoka who's happily let his arms to be cut.well, its not enough if the chain jail will catch him!after sucking his chakcra he'll be a chop chop joker after the kunai with shu cuts him off. let see how happy he is.
No. Stop making excuses. Hisoka IS fucked up in the head. He's not acting at all. This is stupid, your basically saying this out of your ass just so your argument wont be hurt.
So why he didn't fight against kuroro while it has nen before and to prove that he really fucked up his head in front of the other geneiryodan members?WHY? because he might be SCARED^_^your telling that hisoka is not afraid to be hurt right?so whats your point of being fucked up his head?
To which Im gonna tell you again, the Sharingan ALMOST ALWAYS LOSES to someone WITHOUT a Sharingan. And yes, even when the "all seeing movements" of the Sharingan is in use. So dont tell me for a fact that Kuratachi will completely see all of Hisoka's movements without difficulty and win.
What Almost always?sasuke is not yet improved and copied almost all of the technique unlike itachi.
And i'm right, cuz hisoka is not always moving unseen all the time just to avoid mangekyou sharinggan^_^ well, kuritachi will just wait until hisoka tired of moving is that simple^_^
Did you not read my post AT ALL? Im gonna say it to more clearly this time. KURAPICA. CANT. USE. CHAIN. JAIL. ON. HISOKA. You know why? because Hisoka is NOT a Geneiryodan anymore, and Chain Jail can ONLY be used against the Geneiryodan(as you probably didnt know, to which Im not surprised at all). Heck he was never even a real member in the first place. He's a fake member. The only reason he joined the group is because he wanted to fight Kuroro, thats all
And its amusing how you always bring up the Naruto vs Sasuke fight to prove that the Sharingan can see and predict movements. You realize that Sharingan LOST to Naruto in that fight? Yes, even when Sasuke used Sharingan to see and predict his movements, it had virtually no effect against Naruto. Sasuke only won because of his Curse Seals, NOT the Sharingan.
1.I know that already! BUT i'm not saying that kurapica will imposed or used the judgement chain to kill hisoka,he'll just grab him,OK!
and suck off his chackra down to zero. if the chackra was down to zero the person would absolutely die.
2.YEAH!because naruto & gaara are MONSTERS & semi-immortal and really different than a normal ninja.their both monsters almost literary and almost physically.HEHEHE!sorry your mind about sasuke and itachi is too weak?even you know the difference between them^_^
And use your common sense. Whats the meaning of "un"predictable, huh? C'mon now. Please dont let me pull out the dictionary and tell you what it means. Your not dumb, are you?
whats this? heheheh... i dont understand.
Huh!?!?!? thats the freakin SUN! How the hell would it not heat up the ground? Do you know what the Sun is and how powerful a force it is? Please dont let me educate you on what the sun is, Orotachi. Im pretty sure your not dumb enough for that.
And btw, this post of yours shows that you dont have any counters. Just give up.
Kabuto NEVER used Teleportation.
well, that was the upper portion of the ground.& its not neccesarily isolated the inner portion of the surface of the ground. what i mean is the upper portion was serves as cover.& it takes time to directly heat the inner portion of the ground while kuratachi is grabing feitans feet and PULLS IT OFF THE GROUND AND SUCK UP HIS CHACKRA DOWN TO ZERO.
"kabuto never used teleportation" then why did he gone?
So your basically saying that Feitan, who is one of the stronger members of the Geneiryodan, is indeed stupid to just stand there and happily wait for the Amaterasu to hit him? It seems your the one who's stupid. The Chimera Ant had nothing to do with this. Feitan wasnt even at his full strength when he fought that Chimera Ant Queen. He was a bit rusty back then.[quote]
Amaterasu was perform and unleash by the use of "EYE"!besides feiTAN is not invisible. his visible and required to move & move & move just to be invisible or unseen.Man!it takes a lot of enduranced! well as i said before,kuritachi will just wait till feitan is tired.
[QUOTE]No. YOU use your common sense. Konoha Sempuu is a specific technique used by Gai and Lee. Itachi being an S-Class is NOT a good example AT ALL. Going by that logic, I might as well say that Jiraiya also knows Konoha Sempuu even though he doesnt seem to be really good at Taijutsu.
NO. YOUR THE ONE WHO SUPPOSED TO USE COMMON SENSE! i'm sorry for that, cuz a class S like kisame DOESNT DEAL W/ konoha sempuu only.kisame who's almost neutralize and force gai to use "HACHIMON TONKOU DAI-ROKU, KEIMON" Or THE Eight gates opening,SIX VIEW GATES! AND "ASA KUJAKU"!! THE MORNING PEACOCK! just to beat a clone of kisame?
HOW BOUT ITACHI.WELL AS I SAID before HIS FINISH COPYING AND DEALING WITH THAT TAIJUTSU LONG BEFORE SASUKE was child or even born. SINCE SASUKE WAS A CHILD ITACHI IS ON A HIGHIER STAGE W/C WAS NOW EVERYBODY CAN'T LEARN(ASIDE FROM SASUKE)THE MANGEKYOU SHARINGGAN. AND THE 2 MOST POWERFULL JUTSU!
And copying Taijutsus is different from copying Ninjutsus and Genjutsus. Did you not read the part where Sasuke still had to train VERY HARD to gain Lee's speed even though he already saw that speed with his Sharingan? Itachi's gonna do the same with Konoha Sempuu. Even though he saw it, it doesnt mean that he can already use it on the fly. He still has to train EXTENSIVELY so that he can have the same physical stats as someone like Gai in order for him to use Konoha Sempuu effectively. And there is NOTHING to suggest that he's been training for it.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!YOU know THAT SASUKE DOESN'T even FIGHT BEFORE AGAINST an EXPERT KID TAIJUTSU RIGHT?This is his first time!
OH and for the record! those are not konoha sempuu(that lee uses)those are initial lutos:amuse This is pathetic itachi who has a lot of experience since childhood about figthing different forms of jutsu and different ninjas and who has proclaimed by his clan or konoha as a genius.
No, no, no my friend. You just cant provide an explanationon your part. Its that simple.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAH!,I THOUGHT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT UCHIHA CLAN?WHY YOU DON'T KNOW?i can explained it my friend!just for you to understand! you know that orochimaru's biggest dream is to have an uchiha blood and sharinggan RIGHT!Why?you know it already. its because sharinggan can easily learns technique and counters every genjutsu,ninjutsu and taijutsu right? and the user can stay much longer(much stamina) using jutsus whos opposite for non bloodline limit as him.
Think what you want to think, if that makes you happy. All I know is that your argument is unfounded and many people seem to agree with me on that. And how about you, how many people agree with your point?
so you fell on that way, well i'm not following you
Death Fog
01-25-2006, 07:36 PM
My point here is, as i said before itachi is a better pair for kurapica and they both partners in this thread. that's it! END OF THIS PARAGRAPH!
STONGER THAN UCHIHA CLAN?what will that strenght do against a clan who controls different art of jutsu?they are not as strong as killua or not even as strong as janes or and they really not warriors!well, in that case if i'm not mistaken, itachi can handled them alone i mean the mission of geneiryodan!okay i'll proved it to
you!
STEP 1
ITACHI will only cast a genjutsu that will force the kuruta tribe to fall into a deep sleep trap!
STEP 2
FINALLY,ITACHI will now use the GOUKAKYOU NO JUTSU (grand fireball) that will definetely finish and burns every house,forest,livelihood
and most of all the entire kuruta clan!
-END OF THIS PARAGRAPH
Theyre not as strong as Killua? Why do you like to ignore what the manga EXPLICITLY SAID? Ubougin said that they had a HARD time against them. While Killua, even in the current chapters aint touching the Ryodan(the stronger members for sure).
So how is Killua stronger than the Kuruta Tribe again?
And no Itachi will not beat them. The Kururta Tribe will SLAUGHTER him. Im sorry but before he does any genjutsu on them, he will be speedblitzed. And besides we havent seen a Genjutsu from Itachi that is strong enough to affect a large number of very strong people.
That's only your assumption.
NGEEEK!So YOU mean that TSUNADE HEALS HIM? well I'm sorry, because no
such thing as tsunade in geneiryodan^_^
He just fainted. Im sorry but there is no proof that it is said that he wont wake anymore FOREVER. Because if that's case, then the manga ought to have said something about it, because that's important stuff.
And about the fight itself. The fact that Kakashi was strong enough to KEEP HIMSELF FROM FAINTING until Itachi and Kisame went away should tell you something. I mean the Geneiryodan are leagues above Kakashi. So if Kakashi can hold himself for quite a while, then I dont see how the Geneiryodan wont be able to do the same or better yet I dont see the Geneiryodan being affected by Tsukiyomi at all in the first place.
PHINX STONGER THAN UBOOGIN?
yesterday I CHECK THE MANGA, AND IT Virtually says that phinx directly targeted his punch to the chimera ant and pulvarize it WHILE Uboogin punches the ground and marks a big crater and nothing of his opponent body left under the ground.SO the difference btwn this 2 is
clear now.
How does that make the difference clear? Both of those feats are almost on the same level strength-wise. You have to consider that those are Chimaera Ants whose bodies are WAY stronger and more durable than a human body. And its not just that. The ant Phinx fought wasnt just a regular ant. It was a Gorilla-ant. Meaning that its stronger than even MOST Ants. YET Phinx literally obliterated him with a punch and left NOTHING of him.
That feat is close to Ubougin's crater feat. And no. Ubougon DID NOT obliterate and left nothing of that one Injiyuu. As that Injiyuu was clearly shown CRAWLING back to Kurapica warning them of the danger.
umm... now that they fused i don't think that they knew alot of kuritachi's chain to whether it will come out anywhere aside from using IN!
EXample:phinx must be alert because kuritachi will use chain right? so he's using now his gyo.so what will be next?phinx can't go near closer cuz kuritachi is chasing him by his chain.at that time phinx might be surprise if he's been attack from behind or off the ground!because he's just focusing infront of him who's just only a clone!
Stop making excuses. The chain will come out of Kurapica himself, NOT just anywhere else. Materialization types are just like Transformation types in that once their abilities are detached from their body, the strength of those abilities decreases GRADUALLY. So again, it will come out of Kurapica and ONLY Kurapica.
HAHAHAH!<<OPPOSITE TO WHAT NUBONAGA'S PURE HEART!HOHOHOHOHOH!(CRYING)YOU KNOW THAT nubonaga or most of THEM WAS almost SAD WHEN OBOOGIN DIED?RIGHT? and the scene that machi's care about kuroro if hisoka would kill him! is enough reason to show that they really care.
SIMPLE,if paku's gun shot makes them suddenly focus on what they see atleast a seconds.well how much more about tsukiyumi who's just literary break down their mind and killed them by hundreds of chain jail kuritachi!in 3 days in a second
LOL!!!!!! is that it? is that all you can muster? What a shame Orotachi. Ever thought about, that doing that might backfire on Itachi? If Itachi started showing Ubougin's death, Nobunaga will only be MORE ANGRY about it. All the more difficult for Itachi to mentally break him down. Its the same with Machi. She will only be angrier about it and would think of nothing but chasing the killer of Kuroro.
YEAH! AND THAT IS KAKASHI AND SASUKE ONLY^_^! the one has no bloodline limit and the other one is simply lack of knowledge and copying different/all jutsu in naruto world
So this already justifies it for you? So basically, this statement of yours is enough to prove that Kuritachi will COMPLETELY see Hisoka's movements? You'll have to do better than that.
Who cares if its Kakashi and Sasuke? The fact of the matter is from what weve seen of Sharingan, it almost ALWAYS loses to non-sharingan opponents. The point? Its to show us that the Sharingan is not the be all-end all of everything and that it wont own anyone. So there's no reason to believe Itachi will completely OWN anyone with his "movement seeing" Sharingan technique. NOTHING. And yeah Itachi is above Kakashi and Sasuke, but so are the Geneiryodan and HxH world.
You have yet to prove that Kuritachi will completely see Hisoka's movements, much less predict it. As I said Hisoka is "un"predictable.
Now that they fused, using IN and GYO is not only now the factor here.more importantly, if kuritachi will cast a ninjutsu that would imposed the ground to become "STICKY" it would stopped kuroro for moving & is a big point for kuritachi! in a split seconds just like before, kuritachi i mean kurapica will now catch kuroro again!
Here we go again. Bringing up things out of your ass. I mean LMFAO!!!! what the hell is this "sticky" jutsu your talking about? Oh, I get it, its called sticky no jutsu, right? used by some ninja called hmm.... Oh I get it..... Sticky!?!?
Bottom line, this post of yours(and other posts for that matter) are PURE speculation on your part.
Mostly, the one who are non bloodline limits are the one who suffered early exhaustion of using jutsu(kage bunshin) a good example is kakashi!and about sasuke, well let say...he's just lack of knowledge and having no time to practice bunshins instead he's using his own body to finish the fight.
And besides,itachi is now on a highier level form of using jutsu that orochimaru don't know,and its the mangekyou sharinggan!
Again, you making up stuff out of your ass. Now how the hell have you gone to the conclusion that ONLY non bloodline limit ninjas would suffer from exhaustion in performing Kage Bunshin? Give me the EXACT chapter where its said.
And no. Im not just talking about Kakashi and Sasuke. Im talking about Naruto ninjas AS A WHOLE. ANY ninja performing Kage Bunshin will have their strength/chakra capacity decreased by a good amount. And the Kage Bunshins of ANY ninja are not strong AT ALL. One hit and they go, POOF!!!
and about the hundreds of stolen nen abilities that kuroro stolen are not exactly came from strong nen users. most of them are came from gugenka type like fun fun cloth.But indeed kuroro's ability is really dangerous & hard to deal if you are only normal nen user.but a nice amaterasu would burn that directory book for kurapica.
yeh! indeed thats not a good idea(bunshins) to kill!instead, its a good set up for target who is focing on you. imagine if kuroro is focusing on ex: 30 kuritachi infront of him and then most of them has chakcra atleast minimum.what will happen here is kuroro is just focusing on the 30 kuritachi who is assaulting him while the original is hiding its aura/body(waiting for oppurtunities to counter) and then suddenly grabs kuroro with its chain.
More stuff out of your ass. How do you know that all of Kuroro's stolen abilities are weak? Let me refresh your thick head: Fun Fun Cloth, Teleportation ability, Indoor Fish AND his predicting ability. All those abilities arent strong? If you do, I fear for you. This are the only abilities weve seen from him, there's most likely hundreds of other nen-abilities stored in his nen-book that can counter every move of Kuratachi. And Im sorry but Amaterasu wont burn his book. You realize that its a materialized book, do you? Meaning that if Kuratachi destroys his book, Kuroro will just materialize it back.
And no. His stolen abilities ARE NOT mostly Materialization Types. Stop jumping into conclusions. Kuroro can steal ANY nen-ability from ANY of the nen-types(Reinforcement, Transformation, Materialization, Manipulation and Emission). He tried to steal Zeno's nen-dragon which is Transformation.
And no. As I said Bunshins ARE NOT strong. One hit and theyre gone. So you cant say for a fact that Kuratachi will do exactly what your saying and succeed. Kuroro has hundreds of stolen abilities in his book, so for all we know he might have an ability that causes MASS DESTRUCTION so the moment Kuratachi creates his bunshins, Kuroro unleashes this ability and the bunshins are already gone. So no time for Kuratachi to hide(which is cowardly, mind you). Creating bunshins will also decrease Kuratachi's nen/chakra capacity, making him a bit more vulnerable.
Death Fog
01-25-2006, 07:36 PM
there's no such thing that AMATERASU Won't work by a nen cloth only! think about this.even thought they're ant size it can possibly burn the nen cloth by as heat as sun!even the frog who can unleaash a fire itself was dominated by AMATERASU HOW MUCH MORE only THE nen CLOTH.and about teleportation of kuroro, well i think its not a good idea,
1.if kuroro managed to go infront of kuritachi, he'll might be caught by chain jail right?or itachi would hypnotize him to sleep if he saw its eye
2.if kuroro used a teleportation just to avoid the chain, it might be useless. cuz kuroro is fighting on a clone w/c is he thought it was him and the real body was just waiting for opportunity to catch him.
3.and if kuritachi is the one who'll be teleported by kuroro in goes infront of him. i'll inclined that is the same as no 1.
Have you been reading my reply on this? Fun Fun Cloth not only decreases someone's size, it also decreaes someone's STRENGTH too(unlike Jiraiya's toad stomach jutsu who does no such thing). Meaning that even their abilities will be weak once he/she is caught. So Im gonna say this again, Amaterasu will cause nothing more than dirt on the cloth. And NO. Amaterasu is NOT as hot as the sun. There's no factual proof that supports it.
To counter your other points.
1. That's only IF Kuroro goes close to him(and even then I doubt he will be easily caught). Kuroro could just go long range ALL THROUGHOUT the fight. And Itachi's sleep no jutsu ability most likely ONLY works on weak people. The only time we seen him use that is on the ninja guarding the gate entrance. He never used that ever again. Because if that technique is so powerful, he couldve just used that on Kakashi, Kurenai, Asuma and Gai. Using that certainly wouldve save them both alot of time and strength. He also couldve just used it on Jiraiya. But as we saw he DIDNT use it. So its most likely that it will not be effective against strong people.
2. lol!!! so basically Kuratachi will just wait in the dark until the opportunity comes? That's cowardly, and shows that Kuratachi cant fight Kuroro head on. Meaning that I was right. Kurapica aint beating Kuroro. And again, Kuroro might have an ability that can cause wide scale destruction, so again the bunshins will be useless.
And btw, I just thought of something that might prove(yet again) how the bunshins will be useless. You see, Nen-users can see another Nen-user's aura. They even use that to roughly gauge the strength of their opponent. What Im trying to say is, Kuroro will detect who the REAL Kuratachi is by observing their auras. The Bunshins will mostly likely have only a small amount of it on them and its evenly distributed on them. Meaning that any bunshin has the same amount of aura as another bunshin. Going by that, Kuroro can easily distinguish them, all he has to do is look for someone in them that has a bigger aura than the rest and BAM!!!! Kuratachi, the REAL Kuratachi is screwed.
If its not seeing the aura, they can sense it as well.
3. No. If your instantly moved from one place to another without you knowing, it will usually confuse you for a good few seconds. Enough time for Kuroro to land a killing blow.
you didn't know basically what kawarimi no jutsu can do?
yeah you're right it won't hurt!but it seems it is hard to fight to a person who's body isUNREAL rather than those who can obviously virtually see and easily targeted.
about uboogins stopped the bazooka.well, the mafia needs 3 anti tank canon to feed this guy.I MEAN THE GRAND FIREBALL JUTSU that creates a road on the ground WILL SUIT THIS GUY.
and about hisoka who's happily let his arms to be cut.well, its not enough if the chain jail will catch him!after sucking his chakcra he'll be a chop chop joker after the kunai with shu cuts him off. let see how happy he is.
Kawarimi no jutsu only delays the INEVITABLE. It WONT help Kuratachi win the fight. Do you honestly think that a simple technique like this would fool high level fighters like Nen-users, forever? Have we seen someone in Naruto use Kawarimi no Jutsu to win fights? NO!!!!
And lol! Itachi's grand fireball only created little damage to the ground, read the fight again. Do you honestly think a damaga like that will severly damage nen-users? Your lost. And what the hell are you babbling about Hisoka's nen(NOT chakra) being sucked out? How many times must I tell you that Kurapica CANT USE CHAIN JAIL ON HISOKA. Is that so hard to understand? So basically, it should be bye bye Chain Jail.
So why he didn't fight against kuroro while it has nen before and to prove that he really fucked up his head in front of the other geneiryodan members?WHY? because he might be SCARED^_^your telling that hisoka is not afraid to be hurt right?so whats your point of being fucked up his head?
This shows that you dont much about HxH. Hisoka DID try to fight Kuroro when he still has nen. In the Ryodan Arc, it was shown that he was willing to fight the ENTIRE Geneiryodan JUST to keep them from leaving York Shin so that he can finally fight Kuroro.
Again, Hisoka is fucked up in the head. Live with it.
What Almost always?sasuke is not yet improved and copied almost all of the technique unlike itachi.
Look above.
And i'm right, cuz hisoka is not always moving unseen all the time just to avoid mangekyou sharinggan^_^ well, kuritachi will just wait until hisoka tired of moving is that simple^_^
No your wrong. Hisoka is faster than Kuratachi, so Kuratachi will not always hit Hisoka, its in fact the other way around. And how can Kuratachi wait for Hisoka to get tired if he's(Kuratachi) already dead? I mean do you honestly think that Kurapica can avoid EVERY attack of Hisoka until he gets tired? Heck, do you even think that Hisoka gets tired easily? Not to mention that he only needs to touch Kuratachi ONCE to attach Bungee Gum to him, to which Kuratachi will be in big trouble.
C'mon now. Just give up. Its obvious in your posts that your running out of things to say.
1.I know that already! BUT i'm not saying that kurapica will imposed or used the judgement chain to kill hisoka,he'll just grab him,OK!
and suck off his chackra down to zero. if the chackra was down to zero the person would absolutely die.
2.YEAH!because naruto & gaara are MONSTERS & semi-immortal and really different than a normal ninja.their both monsters almost literary and almost physically.HEHEHE!sorry your mind about sasuke and itachi is too weak?even you know the difference between them^_^
1. lol!!!! Your embarassing. You keep babbling about Kurapica's ability yet it turns out you dont know shit about them. Im NOT talking about Judgement Chain. Im talking about Chain Jail. And Chain Jail is the one, as you put it, that "sucks chakra to zero"(this description is wrong btw). Thats the ability Im talking about. Kurapica cant "suck" Hisoka's nen because he can ONLY use that ability AGAINST the Geneiryodan.
You get it HxH newbie?
2. No. As I said it doesnt matter if its Sasuke or Kakashi or Itachi or anyone else. The fact that Sharingan(the ability itself) almost always loses to non-sharingan opponents tells us that theyre not Invincible as you like to think. It means that it can be defeated. And considering that Itachi is up against people stronger than Naruto and Gaara, its not certain that he can just see and predict every movement of the HxH characters.
whats this? heheheh... i dont understand.
Figures. Anyway, Im just saying that because Hisoka is "un"predictable it means that Kuratachi will not be able to predict much from him. "Predictable" is the opposite of "Unpredictable" Predictable(battle-wise) means that you can anticipate a move by an opponent because their moves are basically only repeated movements/actions that they utilise in every fight.
Unpredictable is the opposite. You wont be able to predict much because they are RANDOM either in body movement or what they do as whole in a fight. It cant be studied or predicted with much success because someone who's unpredictable can basically do extremely UNEXPECTED stuff.
well, that was the upper portion of the ground.& its not neccesarily isolated the inner portion of the surface of the ground. what i mean is the upper portion was serves as cover.& it takes time to directly heat the inner portion of the ground while kuratachi is grabing feitans feet and PULLS IT OFF THE GROUND AND SUCK UP HIS CHACKRA DOWN TO ZERO.
lol!!! you talk about how Kuratachi will hide in the inner portions of the ground, yet you also talk about how Kuratachi is grabbing his feet. Well hell, if Kuratachi is grabbing Feitan's feet doesnt that mean that he's hiding in the UPPER PORTIONS of it?
Nice for you to contradict yourself.
then why did he gone?
And Im the one who should use Common Sense, right? It could be that Kabuto and Oro just used the ground to go where they want to go without Tsunade and co. following them. It doesnt necessarily mean that they teleported. Because if he can teleport then why would they bother going under the ground in the first place? They can just teleport on a whim without going under it.
Death Fog
01-25-2006, 07:37 PM
Amaterasu was perform and unleash by the use of "EYE"!besides feiTAN is not invisible. his visible and required to move & move & move just to be invisible or unseen.Man!it takes a lot of enduranced! well as i said before,kuritachi will just wait till feitan is tired.
Kuritachi waiting for Feitan to be tired? Tired of what? The only thing Fietan will be doing here is to keep attacking Kuratachi. Kuratachi wont just sit somewhere and wait for Feitan to be tired. Because HE'S THE ONE BEING ATTACKED BY FEITAN. And no. Kuratachi cant avoid every single attack by Fietan until he gets tired. Im sorry but he cant.
And what do you mean by Amaterasu unleashed using the eye? At the end of the day, the user will still have to project amaterasu to the right direction to hit the opponent.
NO. YOUR THE ONE WHO SUPPOSED TO USE COMMON SENSE! i'm sorry for that, cuz a class S like kisame DOESNT DEAL W/ konoha sempuu only.kisame who's almost neutralize and force gai to use "HACHIMON TONKOU DAI-ROKU, KEIMON" Or THE Eight gates opening,SIX VIEW GATES! AND "ASA KUJAKU"!! THE MORNING PEACOCK! just to beat a clone of kisame?
HOW BOUT ITACHI.WELL AS I SAID before HIS FINISH COPYING AND DEALING WITH THAT TAIJUTSU LONG BEFORE SASUKE was child or even born. SINCE SASUKE WAS A CHILD ITACHI IS ON A HIGHIER STAGE W/C WAS NOW EVERYBODY CAN'T LEARN(ASIDE FROM SASUKE)THE MANGEKYOU SHARINGGAN. AND THE 2 MOST POWERFULL JUTSU!
HAHAHA!!!!!! at the end of the day, this post of your proved NOTHING. What the hell are you babbling about Kisame not dealing with Konoha Sempuu? Were talking about whether or not Konoha Sempuu is a common technique and can be learned by everyone NOT how strong it is. So what you just said about Kisame is TOTAL NONSENSE.
And about Itachi. I asked you to provide proof from the manga in which it is SPECIFICALLY stated Konoha Sempuu is a common technique and that it can be learned by Sharingan users and even anyone. So far you havent had success in providing me that. Again what you just said in this post of yours is TOTAL NONSENSE.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!YOU know THAT SASUKE DOESN'T even FIGHT BEFORE AGAINST an EXPERT KID TAIJUTSU RIGHT?This is his first time!
OH and for the record! those are not konoha sempuu(that lee uses)those are initial lutos:amuse This is pathetic itachi who has a lot of experience since childhood about figthing different forms of jutsu and different ninjas and who has proclaimed by his clan or konoha as a genius.
You realize that your just helping out my argument here, right? Sasuke didnt see Lee's speed before. EXACTLY. Thats also the case for Itachi. He didnt see Gai's Konoha Sempuu before until Gai showed it to him on that time when Itachi went back to Konoha to capture Naruto. It was also his first time seeing Gai's Konoha Sempuu.
And again, unlike Genjutsu and Ninjutsu, copying Taijutus is not INSTANT. You have to trained VERY HARD to be able to use it. Because even though you know how to do it. You might not have the physical capabilities required to perform it successfully. Thats the reason why I brought the part where Sasuke copied Lee's speed. He already saw Lee's speed with the Sharingan but he doesnt have the PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES to move in that same speed in that instant. As we saw, he still had to train.
Let me ask you a question, Orotachi: Have we ever even seen Itachi hint that he's gonna train using Konoha Sempuu, much less effectively use it himself? Answer that question.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAH!,I THOUGHT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT UCHIHA CLAN?WHY YOU DON'T KNOW?i can explained it my friend!just for you to understand! you know that orochimaru's biggest dream is to have an uchiha blood and sharinggan RIGHT!Why?you know it already. its because sharinggan can easily learns technique and counters every genjutsu,ninjutsu and taijutsu right? and the user can stay much longer(much stamina) using jutsus whos opposite for non bloodline limit as him.
Get you facts straight, fanboy. Oro wanted to get the Sharingan ONLY because on Ninjutsu and nothing else. Not Genjutsu, not Taijutsu, but ONLY Ninjutsu. Oro wants to learn every Ninjutsu out there because he believes that learning them will make him the strongest ninja. He didnt show much interest about Genjutsu and Taijutsu. He's only for Ninjutsu. Thats why people call him Ninjutsu freak, y'know.
So this isnt proof about Taijutsu being easy to copy therefore its not proof that Sharingan can easily copy Konoha Sempuu.
so you fell on that way, well i'm not following you
Ofcourse not. You love Naruto so much that if they tell you to jump on a cliff, you'll do exactly the same.
Orotachi
01-26-2006, 03:16 AM
Theyre not as strong as Killua? Why do you like to ignore what the manga EXPLICITLY SAID? Ubougin said that they had a HARD time against them. While Killua, even in the current chapters aint touching the Ryodan(the stronger members for sure).
So how is Killua stronger than the Kuruta Tribe again?
SIMPLE.IF THEY REALLY STRONG(THE elders) they MIGHT STRONG AS SILVA. and each child is much strong as killua. and theres no such record that they are warriors or i should say powerfull!OK!
And no Itachi will not beat them. The Kururta Tribe will SLAUGHTER him. Im sorry but before he does any genjutsu on them, he will be speedblitzed. And besides we havent seen a Genjutsu from Itachi that is strong enough to affect a large number of very strong people.
That's only your assumption.
WRONG! As if they know where itachi is hiding?
Stop making excuses. The chain will come out of Kurapica himself, NOT just anywhere else. Materialization types are just like Transformation types in that once their abilities are detached from their body, the strength of those abilities decreases GRADUALLY. So again, it will come out of Kurapica and ONLY Kurapica.
"it will come out of kurapica and only kurapica" AND THAT IS THE surprise CLONE!
LOL!!!!!! is that it? is that all you can muster? What a shame Orotachi. Ever thought about, that doing that might backfire on Itachi? If Itachi started showing Ubougin's death, Nobunaga will only be MORE ANGRY about it. All the more difficult for Itachi to mentally break him down. Its the same with Machi. She will only be angrier about it and would think of nothing but chasing the killer of Kuroro.
Yeh!nobunaga will get mad,frustrating that he can't hit the real itachi^_^till he tired!
you know that kurapica is 100 times much angrier than nobunaga right?because more than 100 family that the ryodan was killed right?
maybe he'll be the one who suffered the real angerness of kurapica!
So this already justifies it for you? So basically, this statement of yours is enough to prove that Kuritachi will COMPLETELY see Hisoka's movements? You'll have to do better than that.
Who cares if its Kakashi and Sasuke? The fact of the matter is from what weve seen of Sharingan, it almost ALWAYS loses to non-sharingan opponents. The point? Its to show us that the Sharingan is not the be all-end all of everything and that it wont own anyone. So there's no reason to believe Itachi will completely OWN anyone with his "movement seeing" Sharingan technique. NOTHING. And yeah Itachi is above Kakashi and Sasuke, but so are the Geneiryodan and HxH world.
Read chapter 15 to see whether kuritachi could read hisoka's strategy i mean his mind.
As you see both zabuza and kakashi said that "you can't beat me you monkey bastard!!!"its frightening how kakashi figures zabuza's next word
Again.they're sasuke and kakashi they are lack.
You have yet to prove that Kuritachi will completely see Hisoka's movements, much less predict it. As I said Hisoka is "un"predictable.
HEHEHEH! READ CHAPTER 15 OF NARUTO
Here we go again. Bringing up things out of your ass. I mean LMFAO!!!! what the hell is this "sticky" jutsu your talking about? Oh, I get it, its called sticky no jutsu, right? used by some ninja called hmm.... Oh I get it..... Sticky!?!?
Bottom line, this post of yours(and other posts for that matter) are PURE speculation on your part.
"Sticky no jutsu" hehehe.just like you.you DIDN'T watch kurenai did that to itachi and then counters it. i mean they exchanced their situation.is a proft that he's ALREADY DONE MASTERING THE JUSTU'S !
Again, you making up stuff out of your ass. Now how the hell have you gone to the conclusion that ONLY non bloodline limit ninjas would suffer from exhaustion in performing Kage Bunshin? Give me the EXACT chapter where its said.
And no. Im not just talking about Kakashi and Sasuke. Im talking about Naruto ninjas AS A WHOLE. ANY ninja performing Kage Bunshin will have their strength/chakra capacity decreased by a good amount. And the Kage Bunshins of ANY ninja are not strong AT ALL. One hit and they go, POOF!!!
You really taking my words literary dont you?what i mean here is most of them arent using plenty bunshins as naruto do right?why? because naruto has kyuubi from his body w/c supports him enough chackra.
and thats the case why most of them are rarely seen from performing bunshins.
Using bunshins w/ chain jail is truly fearsome for ryodan, as if they know if that chain would really imposed them or not and the fact that its touchable its obvious for them to avoid it.
And not just bunshins! Using shadow clones of itachi is much more dangerous now that they have JUDGEMENT CHAIN. cuz no matter how fast you are, you can still teleporting your clone/self from behind w/c is for example nobunaga's shadow is attached. So don't get me wrong if he catch by chain jail Right before they're very EYE!
More stuff out of your ass. How do you know that all of Kuroro's stolen abilities are weak? Let me refresh your thick head: Fun Fun Cloth, Teleportation ability, Indoor Fish AND his predicting ability. All those abilities arent strong? If you do, I fear for you. This are the only abilities weve seen from him, there's most likely hundreds of other nen-abilities stored in his nen-book that can counter every move of Kuratachi. And Im sorry but Amaterasu wont burn his book. You realize that its a materialized book, do you? Meaning that if Kuratachi destroys his book, Kuroro will just materialize it back.
"HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ALL STOLEN ABILITIES OF KURORO ARE WEAK"
Why not strong?ASK ZENO and Silva! because they're strong in intelligent maybe than kuroro.
Why weak? ask the inju and neon!
And no. His stolen abilities ARE NOT mostly Materialization Types. Stop jumping into conclusions. Kuroro can steal ANY nen-ability from ANY of the nen-types(Reinforcement, Transformation, Materialization, Manipulation and Emission). He tried to steal Zeno's nen-dragon which is Transformation.
READ ABOVE
And no. As I said Bunshins ARE NOT strong. One hit and theyre gone. So you cant say for a fact that Kuratachi will do exactly what your saying and succeed. Kuroro has hundreds of stolen abilities in his book, so for all we know he might have an ability that causes MASS DESTRUCTION so the moment Kuratachi creates his bunshins, Kuroro unleashes this ability and the bunshins are already gone. So no time for Kuratachi to hide(which is cowardly, mind you). Creating bunshins will also decrease Kuratachi's nen/chakra capacity, making him a bit more vulnerable.
Read above! theres no mass destruction....will happen!
Orotachi
01-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Have you been reading my reply on this? Fun Fun Cloth not only decreases someone's size, it also decreaes someone's STRENGTH too(unlike Jiraiya's toad stomach jutsu who does no such thing). Meaning that even their abilities will be weak once he/she is caught. So Im gonna say this again, Amaterasu will cause nothing more than dirt on the cloth. And NO. Amaterasu is NOT as hot as the sun. There's no factual proof that supports it.
To counter your other points.
1. That's only IF Kuroro goes close to him(and even then I doubt he will be easily caught). Kuroro could just go long range ALL THROUGHOUT the fight. And Itachi's sleep no jutsu ability most likely ONLY works on weak people. The only time we seen him use that is on the ninja guarding the gate entrance. He never used that ever again.Because if that technique is so powerful, he couldve just used that on Kakashi, Kurenai, Asuma and Gai. Using that certainly wouldve save them both alot of time and strength. He also couldve just used it on Jiraiya. But as we saw he DIDNT use it. So its most likely that it will not be effective against strong people.
2. lol!!! so basically Kuratachi will just wait in the dark until the opportunity comes? That's cowardly, and shows that Kuratachi cant fight Kuroro head on. Meaning that I was right. Kurapica aint beating Kuroro. And again, Kuroro might have an ability that can cause wide scale destruction, so again the bunshins will be useless.
And btw, I just thought of something that might prove(yet again) how the bunshins will be useless. You see, Nen-users can see another Nen-user's aura. They even use that to roughly gauge the strength of their opponent. What Im trying to say is, Kuroro will detect who the REAL Kuratachi is by observing their auras. The Bunshins will mostly likely have only a small amount of it on them and its evenly distributed on them. Meaning that any bunshin has the same amount of aura as another bunshin. Going by that, Kuroro can easily distinguish them, all he has to do is look for someone in them that has a bigger aura than the rest and BAM!!!! Kuratachi, the REAL Kuratachi is screwed.
If its not seeing the aura, they can sense it as well.
3. No. If your instantly moved from one place to another without you knowing, it will usually confuse you for a good few seconds. Enough time for Kuroro to land a killing blow.
YOU ONLY COUNTERING AMATERASU WITH THIS? As you see nobunaga can't escape because his nen was unable to used if he's inside the cloth right?
how about...kurapica!as you see uboogin can't used his nen because it block or unable to used if you're taking under the chain jail right?
Now.Is amaterasu comes from NEN?NO!.....NO!.....NO! and definetely NO!
1.Wrong! it only works not just weak people but it works on a non jutsu users or lack of knowledge of despelling it. w/c is jiraiya knows how to deal with it(CHAPTER 259) or even a genin like sakura.AND IT REMAINS THAT KURORO DON'T KNOW THIS!so genjutsu is very enough against kuroro!
2.what wait till dark?as you see w/ clones of kuritachi is far far different between naruto's child booly.the bunshins are not just standing there. they'll chase him w/ they're chain!the shadow clones that kuritachi will do is much useful than bunshins.ANYWAY. ITS ALMOST A TELEPORTATION TYPE don't you think?
OK...to make it clear:
1.Bunshins w/ chain jail whos chasing kuroro..
2.Shadow clones w/c automatically transport kuritachi/clone from behind of kuroro and then catch him with chain jail.
3.NOW KURITACHI WILL JUST CAST GENJUTSU AGAINST KURORO,SOMEWHERE HE DON'T KNOW WHILE HE'S BUSY IN A SECONDS
I think its really hard to deal with this situation! Dont you think:wink
KURORO MIGHT BE SURPRISE IF he saw himself GRIPPING his VERY OWN NECK TIGHTLY WHILE he's UNDER CONTROL BY THE GENJUTSU:amuse !besides he don't know how to DEAL W/ genjutsu.SO MUCH FOR THAT. ITS OVER!
while his confuse for a while.......And now For the chain jail!:amuse
3.Oh yeh!and why did he used it to the zoldick? if they used that it. they might caught their nen ability. right?so it remains its not a good idea.
ANOTHER ONE. shadow clones are much effective than you're saying besides kuritachi can read slightly minds of kuroro so there's no big deal for that.
Kawarimi no jutsu only delays the INEVITABLE. It WONT help Kuratachi win the fight. Do you honestly think that a simple technique like this would fool high level fighters like Nen-users, forever? Have we seen someone in Naruto use Kawarimi no Jutsu to win fights? NO!!!!
And lol! Itachi's grand fireball only created little damage to the ground, read the fight again. Do you honestly think a damaga like that will severly damage nen-users? Your lost. And what the hell are you babbling about Hisoka's nen(NOT chakra) being sucked out? How many times must I tell you that Kurapica CANT USE CHAIN JAIL ON HISOKA. Is that so hard to understand? So basically, it should be bye bye Chain Jail.
I DONT KNOW IF YOU'RE PHILOSOPHER OR JUST LITERARY taking MY WORDS!
of course not!kawarimi no jutsu helps to fooled opponent rather than dodge the oponents attack!IT REMAINS THAT ONCE YOU HIT GENEIRYODAN WITH CHAIN JAIL ITS OVER!OVER!OVER!.....ehem ehem So much for that.because they don't have alternatives.is that simple!
hehehe!little damage hah! so why it did markes a road on the ground? Does anyone survives from fireball? using nen i didn't think so?
and infact i would might inclined that the grand fireball jutsu might destroyed a huge 5 storey palace!imagine huge massive ball of fire!
Orotachi
01-26-2006, 09:18 AM
This shows that you dont much about HxH. Hisoka DID try to fight Kuroro when he still has nen. In the Ryodan Arc, it was shown that he was willing to fight the ENTIRE Geneiryodan JUST to keep them from leaving York Shin so that he can finally fight Kuroro.
Again, Hisoka is fucked up in the head. Live with it.
Look above.
No your wrong. Hisoka is faster than Kuratachi, so Kuratachi will not always hit Hisoka, its in fact the other way around. And how can Kuratachi wait for Hisoka to get tired if he's(Kuratachi) already dead? I mean do you honestly think that Kurapica can avoid EVERY attack of Hisoka until he gets tired? Heck, do you even think that Hisoka gets tired easily? Not to mention that he only needs to touch Kuratachi ONCE to attach Bungee Gum to him, to which Kuratachi will be in big trouble.
C'mon now. Just give up. Its obvious in your posts that your running out of things to say.
THE WAY I SAW kurapica catches the bullets and shoot it with his chain is enough to say that they're even not unless if kurapica's turns eye to red! and the way i saw hisoka was hitted in FINGERS badly by razors creatures is enough to say that he's also hitted.
1. lol!!!! Your embarassing. You keep babbling about Kurapica's ability yet it turns out you dont know shit about them. Im NOT talking about Judgement Chain. Im talking about Chain Jail. And Chain Jail is the one, as you put it, that "sucks chakra to zero"(this description is wrong btw). Thats the ability Im talking about. Kurapica cant "suck" Hisoka's nen because he can ONLY use that ability AGAINST the Geneiryodan.
You get it HxH newbie?
2. No. As I said it doesnt matter if its Sasuke or Kakashi or Itachi or anyone else. The fact that Sharingan(the ability itself) almost always loses to non-sharingan opponents tells us that theyre not Invincible as you like to think. It means that it can be defeated. And considering that Itachi is up against people stronger than Naruto and Gaara, its not certain that he can just see and predict every movement of the HxH characters.
YES INDEED I KNOW ABOUT THEM!have you ever read that kurapica deals to use his judgement chain or chain jail that if he kills a non ryodan using it will be his last! it remains that it will still activate.
but wait a second! he's not killing hisoka.if hisoka was coiling by chain, his aura won't use just like uboogin so it remains that tsukiyumi will finish him! is that simple!
Figures. Anyway, Im just saying that because Hisoka is "un"predictableit means that Kuratachi will not be able to predict much from him. "Predictable" is the opposite of "Unpredictable" Predictable(battle-wise) means that you can anticipate a move by an opponent because their moves are basically only repeated movements/actions that they utilise in every fight.
Unpredictable is the opposite. You wont be able to predict much because they are RANDOM either in body movement or what they do as whole in a fight. It cant be studied or predicted with much success because someone who's unpredictable can basically do extremely UNEXPECTED stuff.
READ CHAPTER 15
:( ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT! what i mean is i don't know where that paragraph placed from..........
lol!!! you talk about how Kuratachi will hide in the inner portions of the ground, yet you also talk about how Kuratachi is grabbing his feet. Well hell, if Kuratachi is grabbing Feitan's feet doesnt that mean that he's hiding in the UPPER PORTIONS of it?
Nice for you to contradict yourself.
Did i say grab him w/ his hands? i guess not!
heheheh....he'll be caught by chain jail from the ground without the appearance of kuritachi's finger.
Nice for you to be fooled somehow^_^
And Im the one who should use Common Sense, right? It could be that Kabuto and Oro just used the ground to go where they want to go without Tsunade and co. following them. It doesnt necessarily mean that they teleported. Because if he can teleport then why would they bother going under the ground in the first place? They can just teleport on a whim without going under it.
Heck.The same thing happen to they're journey.i mean if kuroro can really use teleport. well. theres no problem about they're travelling on their camp.Am i right?
Get you facts straight, fanboy. Oro wanted to get the Sharingan ONLY because on Ninjutsu and nothing else. Not Genjutsu, not Taijutsu, but ONLY Ninjutsu. Oro wants to learn every Ninjutsu out there because he believes that learning them will make him the strongest ninja. He didnt show much interest about Genjutsu and Taijutsu. He's only for Ninjutsu. Thats why people call him Ninjutsu freak, y'know.
So this isnt proof about Taijutsu being easy to copy therefore its not proof that Sharingan can easily copy Konoha Sempuu.
WELL i'm right.as you see if you have a uchiha blood and sharinggan you might as well both have it. its the same thing.
and about konoha sempuu.i check the manga it looks like a turn around kick.that lee uses. man.the way Gai used the GATES to kisame THE MORE it tells you that konoha sempuu won't work.right?
You realize that your just helping out my argument here, right? Sasuke didnt see Lee's speed before. EXACTLY. Thats also the case for Itachi. He didnt see Gai's Konoha Sempuu before until Gai showed it to him on that time when Itachi went back to Konoha to capture Naruto. It was also his first time seeing Gai's Konoha Sempuu.
And again, unlike Genjutsu and Ninjutsu, copying Taijutus is not INSTANT. You have to trained VERY HARD to be able to use it. Because even though you know how to do it. You might not have the physical capabilities required to perform it successfully. Thats the reason why I brought the part where Sasuke copied Lee's speed. He already saw Lee's speed with the Sharingan but he doesnt have the PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES to move in that same speed in that instant. As we saw, he still had to train.
Let me ask you a question, Orotachi: Have we ever even seen Itachi hint that he's gonna train using Konoha Sempuu, much less effectively use it himself? Answer that question.
take note: now that itachi saw it. i inclined that he now know it!
he has 3 spots of sharingan(& already mastered it before) than sasuke who has only 2 while he managed to learn almost the LOTUS technique of taijutsu(lee). isn't that enough?
(see sasuke fight in test 3 of chuunin exam)
let me ask you.why did sasuke learn the initial lotus(not konoha sempuu) during 3rd test of chunin exam?and used it against his first bout.take note:he's just sleeping after oro marks him.RIGHT its PRETTY obvious that intial lotus is hard to copy cuz you must travel circularly around your opponent and then suddenly kicks him up in the air and assault him on top then finally grab your opponents full body and let it pound its head on the ground UNLIKE KONOHA SEMPUU YOU'VE ASKING FOR IS JUST A QUICK TURN AROUND KICK.
Now that i said that. i remember that sasuke's eye during his fight with lee has only 2 spots of sharinggan.that supposed to be 3 spots.Right? how much more if itachi could copy it.he might be perfect than kakashi plus he has capable of mangekyou sharingan right?
Death Fog
01-26-2006, 06:39 PM
SIMPLE.IF THEY REALLY STRONG(THE elders) they MIGHT STRONG AS SILVA. and each child is much strong as killua. and theres no such record that they are warriors or i should say powerfull!OK!
Nice for you to keep ignoring the important things I say. Well, your not to blame, I mean your clearly losing this debate so its convenient to ignore this things, right?
Im gonna say this in bold letters, alright?: Ubougin said that they(the Ryodan)had a hard time against the Kuruta Tribe. So yes Orotachi, they are warriors and powerful and are stronger than Killua.
Now if you still ignore this, then Im convinced that you dont have any counters on this anymore.
WRONG! As if they know where itachi is hiding?
Since when did you decide how the fight's going to happen? You dont know if Itachi's really going to hide or not. And if he did hide, then that means Im right. That the Kuruta Tribe will SLAUGHTER Itachi if Itachi tries fighting them head on. Thats why he needs to hide, right?
"it will come out of kurapica and only kurapica" AND THAT IS THE surprise CLONE!
Nice Try, but not good enough. The Clones WILL NOT HAVE Chain Jail. Havent you been paying attention on our discussions about the bunshins. When you create bunshins you distribute some of your chakra to them EVENLY. Meaning that bunshins wont really have a good amount of chakra in them. That's why when you hit them just once theyre already gone. They only have a small amount of chakra(or in this case, nen) on them. So no they wont have enough chakra/nen to be able to perform a very powerful technique like Chain Jail.
"Yeh!nobunaga will get mad,frustrating that he can't hit the real itachi^_^till he tired!
you know that kurapica is 100 times much angrier than nobunaga right?because more than 100 family that the ryodan was killed right?
maybe he'll be the one who suffered the real angerness of kurapica!
lol!!! how do you even know that Kurapica is 100 hundred times stronger than Nobunaga. You have NO PROOF of that. Again, stop talking out of your ass.
Read chapter 15 to see whether kuritachi could read hisoka's strategy i mean his mind.
As you see both zabuza and kakashi said that "you can't beat me you monkey bastard!!!"its frightening how kakashi figures zabuza's next word
Again.they're sasuke and kakashi they are lack.
Thats only useful when your copying a technique(to which Kuratachi wont be able to do). What were talking about is different. Kuratachi wont copy Hisoka's techniques, but he's gonna read Hisoka's movements (which is extremely hard since Hisoka is very unpredictable). Zabuza clearly states that he did that through Genjutsu. And we already had a discussion about how Gyo counters Genjutsu.
HEHEHEH! READ CHAPTER 15 OF NARUTO
Read above.
"Sticky no jutsu" hehehe.just like you.you DIDN'T watch kurenai did that to itachi and then counters it. i mean they exchanced their situation.is a proft that he's ALREADY DONE MASTERING THE JUSTU'S !
lol!!!! Its kinda ironic, you love Naruto so much but it seems you dont know everything about the series. That technique is Genjiutsu, NOT Ninjutsu. And again, you have no PROOF that Itachi can do that Genjutsu. He only COUNTERED(as he said that Sharingan can see through Genjutsu) that Genjutsu with his Sharingan, he DIDNT copy it. Stop talking out of your ass.
You really taking my words literary dont you?what i mean here is most of them arent using plenty bunshins as naruto do right?why? because naruto has kyuubi from his body w/c supports him enough chackra.
and thats the case why most of them are rarely seen from performing bunshins.
Using bunshins w/ chain jail is truly fearsome for ryodan, as if they know if that chain would really imposed them or not and the fact that its touchable its obvious for them to avoid it.
And not just bunshins! Using shadow clones of itachi is much more dangerous now that they have JUDGEMENT CHAIN. cuz no matter how fast you are, you can still teleporting your clone/self from behind w/c is for example nobunaga's shadow is attached. So don't get me wrong if he catch by chain jail Right before they're very EYE!
Taking you words literally? Stop making excuses just because your losing. Everyone will take your words literally because your SAYING IT LITERALLY, as well.
And as I said, bunshins WONT be able to perform the Chain Jail, read one of my replies above. And Shadow Clone IS the bunshins. Man, as a naruto fanboy, your embarassing. And no. the bunshins dont teleport where the hell did you get that? they just move very fast(but again, against the speed of HxH characters, its nothing).
Anyway, if your referring to the clone that Kakashi, Naruto, Sakura, and Chiyo fought recently. Then that technique is irrelevant because Itachi needs a host body for it to work. And seeing that the thread starter didnt say something like "Kuratachi has a dead body beside him, and he will make it a clone of himself ALL THE WHILE his enemies are waiting for him to finish", that technique is useless.
"HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT ALL STOLEN ABILITIES OF KURORO ARE WEAK"
Why not strong?ASK ZENO and Silva! because they're strong in intelligent maybe than kuroro.
Why weak? ask the inju and neon!
If you think that Fun Fun Cloth and the predicting ability arent dangerous abilities, then your not right in the head. Seriously. I mean if Fun Fun Cloth is not a powerful ability then Kuroro wouldnt have used it against top tier fighters like Zeno and Silva. But as we saw he did use it. That alone should tell you that Kuroro regards that as a powerful and reliable ability.
And about the predicting ability. You realize that with that predicting ability of Kuroro, the Ryodan were able to prevent half of their members dying? Yet you sit there and downgrade them. You really do underestimate HxH.
READ ABOVE
What above? you didnt counter this particular post of mine.
Read above! theres no mass destruction....will happen!
Im not saying that he WILL have them. Im saying that he MOST LIKELY have them. Use your common sense. With all this hundreds of abilities at his disposal, you really think there isnt even just one ability that is wide-scale in effect?
YOU ONLY COUNTERING AMATERASU WITH THIS? As you see nobunaga can't escape because his nen was unable to used if he's inside the cloth right?
how about...kurapica!as you see uboogin can't used his nen because it block or unable to used if you're taking under the chain jail right?
Now.Is amaterasu comes from NEN?NO!.....NO!.....NO! and definetely NO!
And where did you get this idea that only nen cant harm the cloth. Show me exact statements from the manga that clearly show that. Show me where Nobunaga wasnt able to escape ONLY because of his nen. If that's the case, then why didnt he just tore through it using only his sword. I mean even without nen, he can still tore through it with his razor sharp swords, right? but as we see, he didnt he WASNT STRONG ENOUGH BECAUSE HE WAS CAUGHT BY THE CLOTH. That proves that not only nen but your OVERALL STRENGTH is also affected.
So Im gonna say this OVER AND OVER AND OVER again until you get this through your thick head. Amaterasu will cause nothing more than a dirt on the cloth.
Death Fog
01-26-2006, 06:40 PM
1.Wrong! it only works not just weak people but it works on a non jutsu users or lack of knowledge of despelling it. w/c is jiraiya knows how to deal with it(CHAPTER 259) or even a genin like sakura.AND IT REMAINS THAT KURORO DON'T KNOW THIS!so genjutsu is very enough against kuroro!
To which Im gonna tell you Gyo is a counter against Genjutsu. Have you forgotten our discussion about Gyo and Genjutsu on another thread? Where I educated you on how Gyo can easily counter Genjutsu? Dont let me bring that thread up again just to remind you.
2.what wait till dark?as you see w/ clones of kuritachi is far far different between naruto's child booly.the bunshins are not just standing there. they'll chase him w/ they're chain!the shadow clones that kuritachi will do is much useful than bunshins.ANYWAY. ITS ALMOST A TELEPORTATION TYPE don't you think?
AGAIN, the bunshins DO NOT teleport. Get you facts straight, son. And read above about how the bunshins CANT PERFORM CHAIN JAIL. Only the real Kuritachi can do it. And now that Kuroro knows who the real Kuritachi is, the bunshins will be useless as Kuroro would head straight through the real one and seeing that the bunshins arent strong they wont be able to keep up with Kuroro.
OK...to make it clear:
1.Bunshins w/ chain jail whos chasing kuroro..
2.Shadow clones w/c automatically transport kuritachi/clone from behind of kuroro and then catch him with chain jail.
3.NOW KURITACHI WILL JUST CAST GENJUTSU AGAINST KURORO,SOMEWHERE HE DON'T KNOW WHILE HE'S BUSY IN A SECONDS
I think its really hard to deal with this situation! Dont you think:wink
KURORO MIGHT BE SURPRISE IF he saw himself GRIPPING his VERY OWN NECK TIGHTLY WHILE he's UNDER CONTROL BY THE GENJUTSU:amuse !besides he don't know how to DEAL W/ genjutsu.SO MUCH FOR THAT. ITS OVER!
1. Bunshins cant do Chain Jail
2. Bunshins(Shadow Clones) cant teleport
3. Gyo is a counter to Genjutsu
Its not so hard now, is it?
3.Oh yeh!and why did he used it to the zoldick? if they used that it. they might caught their nen ability. right?so it remains its not a good idea.
ANOTHER ONE. shadow clones are much effective than you're saying besides kuritachi can read slightly minds of kuroro so there's no big deal for that.
If your going by that route, then I might as well ask you why didnt Jiraiya summon Gamabunta when he fought Itachi and Kisame or why didnt Naruto used Rasengan against Kimimaro or why didnt Lee used the Primary Lotus against Kimimaro? Do you see my point?
I DONT KNOW IF YOU'RE PHILOSOPHER OR JUST LITERARY taking MY WORDS!
of course not!kawarimi no jutsu helps to fooled opponent rather than dodge the oponents attack!IT REMAINS THAT ONCE YOU HIT GENEIRYODAN WITH CHAIN JAIL ITS OVER!OVER!OVER!.....ehem ehem So much for that.because they don't have alternatives.is that simple!
hehehe!little damage hah! so why it did markes a road on the ground? Does anyone survives from fireball? using nen i didn't think so?
and infact i would might inclined that the grand fireball jutsu might destroyed a huge 5 storey palace!imagine huge massive ball of fire!
To which Im gonna say this over again. Kawarimi no Jutsu only delays the inevitable. And we have never seen someone use Kawarimi no Jutsu to win fights, simple as that. So no. they wont be of much use here.
About Itachi's puny fireball. lol!!!! take a look at this pic:
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/3781/narutoch260p047ru.th.png (http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutoch260p047ru.png)
Do you honestly think that a damage that small can damage a nen-user? C'mon, now be reasonable. Not to mention that Naruto and co. EASILY avoided it. So what do you have to say for that?
THE WAY I SAW kurapica catches the bullets and shoot it with his chain is enough to say that they're even not unless if kurapica's turns eye to red! and the way i saw hisoka was hitted in FINGERS badly by razors creatures is enough to say that he's also hitted.
So what if Kurapica caught bullets? Thats like saying that because Killua dodges bullets he's already even or close with Hisoka speed-wise. Thats not how it works. You'll have to do better than that.
Its the same with the dodgeball match. I mean yeah Hisoka was hit by reiz'a nen-creature but hey Killua wasnt hit at all so does that mean Killua is now faster than Hisoka? You have to consider that Hisoka was just playing around the throughout the entire match. He wasnt even near serious in that game.
YES INDEED I KNOW ABOUT THEM!have you ever read that kurapica deals to use his judgement chain or chain jail that if he kills a non ryodan using it will be his last! it remains that it will still activate.
but wait a second! he's not killing hisoka.if hisoka was coiling by chain, his aura won't use just like uboogin so it remains that tsukiyumi will finish him! is that simple!
lol!!! you know them? yet in this same post of yours you showed that YOU DONT KNOW THEM. Shut the fuck up. Kurapica will die the moment he USES(not just kill) his Chain Jail. So the moment he raises his hands to do Chain Jail he INSTANTLY dies.
So again KURAPICA. CANT. USE. CHAIN. JAIL. ON. HISOKA(Im gonna repeat this over and over again). And no. Only the Chain Jail is Ryodan-specific. He's free to use Judgement Chain on anybody.
READ CHAPTER 15
:( ANYWAY, I KNOW THAT! what i mean is i don't know where that paragraph placed from..........
Ive already countered this. Read above.
Did i say grab him w/ his hands? i guess not!
heheheh....he'll be caught by chain jail from the ground without the appearance of kuritachi's finger.
Nice for you to be fooled somehow^_^
lol!!!!! Ok, you say that he will be caught by Kuratachi's Chains? Well thats not different than Kuratachi holding him with his hands. That chain will still be incinerated by Feitan's Rising Sun because hey for Kurapica to grab Fietan, his chain must go up to the upper ground to get a hold of him, right? And as Ive said the upper ground is affected by the sun(even the inner ground would be affected as its the mini version of the fucking sun), so it will be incinerated before it can even grab Fietan.
Heck.The same thing happen to they're journey.i mean if kuroro can really use teleport. well. theres no problem about they're travelling on their camp.Am i right?
What the hell are you talking about? We saw Kuroro's teleportation ability WITH OUR OWN EYES. So we can say that he HAS a teleportation ability. Have we seen Kabuto use teleportation WITH OUR OWN EYES? HELL NO!!!!!!!
WELL i'm right.as you see if you have a uchiha blood and sharinggan you might as well both have it. its the same thing.
No your not. Oro wants the Sharingan ONLY for Ninjutsus and nothing else. He never showed ANY interest in Genjutsu and Taijutsu.
and about konoha sempuu.i check the manga it looks like a turn around kick.that lee uses. man.the way Gai used the GATES to kisame THE MORE it tells you that konoha sempuu won't work.right?
You just destroyed your argument here, mate. As you yourself said, Konoha Sempuu wont work against Kisame. EXACTLY. If it doesnt work against Kisame, then it would be useless against nen-users, wouldnt it? I mean its just a simple round house kick, right?
take note: now that itachi saw it. i inclined that he now know it!
he has 3 spots of sharingan(& already mastered it before) than sasuke who has only 2 while he managed to learn almost the LOTUS technique of taijutsu(lee). isn't that enough?
(see sasuke fight in test 3 of chuunin exam)
let me ask you.why did sasuke learn the initial lotus(not konoha sempuu) during 3rd test of chunin exam?and used it against his first bout.take note:he's just sleeping after oro marks him.RIGHT its PRETTY obvious that intial lotus is hard to copy cuz you must travel circularly around your opponent and then suddenly kicks him up in the air and assault him on top then finally grab your opponents full body and let it pound its head on the ground UNLIKE KONOHA SEMPUU YOU'VE ASKING FOR IS JUST A QUICK TURN AROUND KICK.
Now that i said that. i remember that sasuke's eye during his fight with lee has only 2 spots of sharinggan.that supposed to be 3 spots.Right? how much more if itachi could copy it.he might be perfect than kakashi plus he has capable of mangekyou sharingan right?
I dont need to counter all of this. Youve already destroyed your argument. Even if Itachi has Konoha Sempuu(which is still VERY VERY unlikely), it would be useless against nen-users as its just a simple round house kick. And simple physical attacks like that wont penetrate a nen-defense.
magento
01-26-2006, 07:10 PM
this is stupid..... why do you even bother with orotachi? he's the most fucked up poster ive ever seen in this forums..... he doesnt deserve to be countered.... orotachi my advise to you is you stop right now. your only gonna make enemies with what your doing. death fog is clearly right and people agree with him.... what your doing is futile nobody even agrees with you.... you make stuff up most of the time.... your only gonna embarass yourself if you continue this....
hxh pwnz kurapica/itachi.
funjat
02-07-2006, 03:03 PM
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*Responds to call (albeit a year late)*. Salut.
jkingler
02-07-2006, 03:40 PM
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funjat
02-07-2006, 03:44 PM
You have a funny name, guy. Have you considered changing to a more normal name? Like xXGenma2006Xx or something?
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02-07-2006, 03:47 PM
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02-07-2006, 03:54 PM
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02-07-2006, 03:59 PM
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02-07-2006, 04:03 PM
Man, this place isn't any fun. Why did I ever sign up here?
Last of the Uchihas
02-07-2006, 04:32 PM
what did you expect?
WORSHIP?:P
keikun17
02-07-2006, 04:35 PM
Copy cat? Yeah I guess that explains why I've seen a similar topic like this before :P
martryn
02-07-2006, 04:37 PM
Copy cat? Yeah I guess that explains why I've seen a similar topic like this before
Well, the copying part comes about from my making this thread four months after I joined the forums.
Now for something original, welcome to the martryn FC.
keikun17
02-07-2006, 04:39 PM
Well, the copying part comes about from my making this thread four months after I joined the forums.
Now for something original, welcome to the martryn FC.
Ah yes, now for some 4 months time of fun!!
Chamcham Trigger
02-07-2006, 04:41 PM
Why hello there Martyr I'd like to join your member fc.
martryn
02-07-2006, 04:42 PM
Why hello there Martyr I'd like to join your member fc.
Welcome, CCHT. Enjoy your stay. Would you care for some refreshment?
Chamcham Trigger
02-07-2006, 04:51 PM
Welcome, CCHT. Enjoy your stay. Would you care for some refreshment?
lol I'll have some wash please.
martryn
02-07-2006, 04:55 PM
Wash? What's that?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Wash23.jpg
???
funjat
02-07-2006, 04:59 PM
Why hello there Martyr I'd like to join your member fc.
Thought he had one already.
Well then....
martryn
02-07-2006, 05:01 PM
Thought he had one already.
This one is official though. KnK said so in her first post in here. Maybe I should make all people who post in here members...
funjat
02-07-2006, 05:04 PM
Since I had revamped this thread from oblivion, I demand to hold two positions in this member fc, a first of its kind.
EDIT: Even though I don't do FCs.
martryn
02-07-2006, 11:17 PM
Since I had revamped this thread from oblivion, I demand to hold two positions in this member fc, a first of its kind.
What two positions are those?
EDIT: Even though I don't do FCs.
This isn't really a FC.
funjat
02-08-2006, 02:56 AM
What two positions are those?
Secretary of Defence and Vice President.
martryn
02-08-2006, 03:00 AM
Secretary of Defence and Vice President.
You can't be both. It has no precedent.
Chamcham Trigger
02-08-2006, 03:03 AM
Wash? What's that?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Wash23.jpg
???
lol it's lime juice....kinda like limenaid or something of the sort.
martryn
02-08-2006, 03:06 AM
lol it's lime juice....kinda like limenaid or something of the sort.
Oh, ok, no prob.
funjat
02-08-2006, 04:31 AM
You can't be both. It has no precedent.
See, this is why I never join FCs*.
*even though this isn't one
martryn
02-08-2006, 04:44 AM
See, this is why I never join FCs
Damnit, just pick one!
funjat
02-08-2006, 05:33 AM
Alright. I'll go with Secretary of Defence.
martryn
02-08-2006, 05:43 AM
Alright. I'll go with Secretary of Defence.
You mean Secretary of Defense? Sure.
funjat
02-08-2006, 05:47 AM
You mean Secretary of Defense? Sure.
No, No. I mean of De Fence. :amuse.
Right, now that's been established which other FC do we invade. TO WAR.
Sakura
02-08-2006, 05:49 AM
welcome martryn. =]
have fun at NF. join as many FCs as possible and be active.
btw, id like to join ur member fc
Chamcham Trigger
02-09-2006, 10:51 PM
Where's Deery to greet and join Martyr's fc?
Rin <3
02-09-2006, 11:15 PM
I'll join...Yeah...
martryn
02-09-2006, 11:23 PM
Thank you for joining my country. We will have to develop an army, raise funds, tax the masses, and invade Canada.
furious styles
02-09-2006, 11:33 PM
do you already have a co-owner?
martryn
02-09-2006, 11:35 PM
do you already have a co-owner?
Don't you mean Vice-President? Or Speaker? CCHT already has Chief Justice.
furious styles
02-09-2006, 11:37 PM
I'll take any sort of rather dashing position. Martryn is a great man.
Chamcham Trigger
02-10-2006, 12:10 AM
Wait you never mentioned Vice President. I wanna be vp :spaz
jkingler
02-10-2006, 12:12 AM
I'll be Chancellor.
martryn
02-10-2006, 12:12 AM
Wait you never mentioned Vice President. I wanna be vp
Isn't that a step down from Chief Justice?
I'll take any sort of rather dashing position. Martryn is a great man.
I can appoint you to my cabinet if you'd like.
I'll be Chancellor.
But CCHT is already, unless he really wants that VP job.
jkingler
02-10-2006, 12:21 AM
If I cannot be Chancellor, which is a position I must admit I am quite good at, I will accept the title of Earl of Martrynchestershire.
martryn
02-10-2006, 12:25 AM
If I cannot be Chancellor, which is a position I must admit I am quite good at, I will accept the title of Earl of Martrynchestershire.
There is no nobility in Boobaria.
Lord Yu
02-10-2006, 12:29 AM
Unusual idea this is. I'll hop on this bandwagon. :omg
jkingler
02-10-2006, 12:30 AM
I am nobility. Where I go, there is nobility. So, if we currently reside in Boobaria, I will be nobility in Boobaria, for better or worse.
*Looks wearily at Genma starved peasants eyeing his chaise*
martryn
02-10-2006, 12:30 AM
Unusual idea this is. I'll hop on this bandwagon.
Ah ha! Citizen #3!
I am nobility. Where I go, there is nobility. So, if we currently reside in Boobaria, I will be nobility in Boobaria, for better or worse.
I suppose... Citizen #4?
jkingler
02-10-2006, 12:33 AM
Citizen? What the devil?!
I say! I will not be treated thusly! :noworry
*Retires*
Dommy
02-10-2006, 12:35 AM
Where's Deery to greet and join Martyr's fc?
I'm here, ChamCham! :spaz
Welcome, Martryn. :glomp
And. :shifty
Joinage please? :wtf
martryn
02-10-2006, 12:39 AM
*Retires*
That means you died. We'll bury you in Bralington Cemetary.
Joinage please?
deer, you welcomed me! And of course you can be a citizen of Boobaria.
Chamcham Trigger
02-10-2006, 01:05 AM
Ok ok. I guess I'll accept it this way. If kingler wants to be chancelor then he can be and I'll be VP, but if he doesn't, then I'll stay as chancelor/right hand man.
Lord Yu
02-10-2006, 01:12 AM
All hail the rise of Boobaria!
Dommy
02-10-2006, 01:12 AM
deer, you welcomed me! And of course you can be a citizen of Boobaria.
What's Boobaria? :blink
Is it a place? :huh
Chamcham Trigger
02-10-2006, 02:52 AM
lol it's Martyr's republic I guess :amuse
sasuke_limays
02-10-2006, 02:57 AM
alopppppp........................... to all narutofan forums..........
what the thing we are discuss now......
Lord Yu
02-10-2006, 02:17 PM
I wonder if this will get moved?
Dommy
02-11-2006, 01:44 AM
Where has eveyone gone? :blink
Procyon
02-18-2006, 09:44 PM
Yes. I'd like to join. Oliver's one of my favorites. I love his grumpyness.
eh, welcome to NF. * to martryn noob*
and joinage plz *to martryn sama*
martryn
02-18-2006, 09:58 PM
Yay, two new citizens for... what I'd call it, Boobaria? Welcome. Go forth and prosper.
Boobaria? where did u get that name?
martryn
02-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Boobaria? where did u get that name?
From boobies. Duh.
From boobies. Duh.
martryn = pervert ?
How come i'm not in this?? Sowwy, Marty... :wtf
Dommy
02-19-2006, 06:03 AM
martryn = pervert ?
*speechless* :oh
Anyway, a welcome to the new citizens of *Boobaria*! :hi5
mr_yenz
02-19-2006, 06:04 AM
*joins* Martryn-san is t3h pwnz!!! :knk
Dommy
02-19-2006, 07:17 AM
*joins* Martryn-san is t3h pwnz!!! :knk
Welcome, Raine. :squish
Sakura
02-19-2006, 07:20 AM
welcome raine...
omg. martryn = pervert?
i would never ever have expected that.
Snoopy
02-19-2006, 08:05 AM
lol well i gusse i say welcome to you
Lord Yu
02-19-2006, 07:27 PM
Bump bump! Bump bump in da trunk!
Chamcham Trigger
02-19-2006, 08:03 PM
Ah cool Smoochy Yu. good bump tactics. I wanna see how many people welcome him in as a new member :laugh
Dommy
02-25-2006, 03:09 AM
Then, should we continue to keep this place alive? :oh
seconded, deerjing. But seems like even martryn has forgotten this place.
Dommy
02-25-2006, 08:26 AM
seconded, deerjing. But seems like even martryn has forgotten this place.
Yeah. :sweat
But can't blame him for that. :noworry
Maybe he is busy? :nod
legan
02-25-2006, 06:50 PM
Oh God another n00b?
What's your story then ay?
Yasha
02-26-2006, 11:37 PM
I'm back as promised, after one week of tedious works.-_-
Errr...is Boobaria a magical land? Can you make me a High Mage or something? I want to have enough power to destroy one-tenth of the world :O
I want to destroy the place called Nippleton to bring Boobaria back to perfect sphereness, whatever it means, and also to get rid of suckers once and for all. XD
Dommy
02-27-2006, 05:38 AM
Welcome back, Yasha! :glomp
But do you intend to use "Rave" for fighting? :imslow
Yasha
02-27-2006, 07:30 AM
You know Rave too? :O
Rave Master is one of the most underrated mangas especially in US. I will try to promote it with my sig but I don't think it will have any effect. XD
Dommy
02-27-2006, 09:10 AM
I had watched the anime before but I didn't manage to finish it. :shakefist
Too bad for me. :cry
But do you have the manga, Yasha? :nuts
Yasha
02-27-2006, 09:31 AM
Ah, I watched the part I of the anime too. It ended after the fight with the Oracion Seis in Symphonia and Lucia Rareglove became the new king. Then I decided to pick up the manga. Now I read until vol.15. It recently came to an end and I think there are a total of 30+ volumes. I want to read the rest but can't find time and money T_T (RM13/original, RM4.50/pirated version) Anyway, I will have more time in my hand after tomorrow, so I think I will go out to bag a few more home :spaz
martryn
02-27-2006, 09:43 AM
People are posting in my FC again? Yay!
Sakura
02-27-2006, 09:52 AM
the joy of people posting in here. yayyy.
Dommy
02-27-2006, 09:57 AM
Ah, I watched the part I of the anime too. It ended after the fight with the Oracion Seis in Symphonia and Lucia Rareglove became the new king. Then I decided to pick up the manga. Now I read until vol.15. It recently came to an end and I think there are a total of 30+ volumes. I want to read the rest but can't find time and money T_T (RM13/original, RM4.50/pirated version) Anyway, I will have more time in my hand after tomorrow, so I think I will go out to bag a few more home :spaz
You are buying the books!? :huh
Is there any website that can let us to download the manga? :strip
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:03 AM
You are buying the books!? :huh
Is there any website that can let us to download the manga? :strip
Tsk tsk tsk. I don't do such an evil thing.XD
But the Rave is particularly hard to find online so I didn't bother to look for it. I buy a few volumes whenever I have time to read and hopefully I can finish the whole set by 2007. XD
Dommy
02-27-2006, 10:09 AM
Tsk tsk tsk. I don't do such an evil thing.XD
But the Rave is particularly hard to find online so I didn't bother to look for it. I buy a few volumes whenever I have time to read and hopefully I can finish the whole set by 2007. XD
The manga isn't finished yet? :huh
I don't go out often so I can't buy such things like comics. :cry
Anyway, can you tell me the full story whenever you have time, Yasha? :nuts
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:18 AM
The manga isn't finished yet? :huh
I don't go out often so I can't buy the comics. :cry
Anyway, can you tell me the full story whenever you have time, Yasha? :nuts
It just ended recently. Here is a website link where you can find the story summary, if you are not afraid of spoilers of course.
http://www.geocities.com/tcmofrave/
martryn, what about my request? Read the last post of previous page.
Dommy
02-27-2006, 10:22 AM
Yasha, which one do you prefer, manga or anime? :strip
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:28 AM
anime so far because it is the anime that sparked my interest to pick up the manga. Plue and Elie look super cute in the anime XD
Dommy
02-27-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah, the anime is really hilarious, especially Plue and its sharp nose amuse me to the end. :lmao
Oh, I must go to bed now. :oh
I wish that I can talk more with you, Yasha. :shakefist
Then bye for now. :bye
See you tomorrow again. :glomp
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:34 AM
Good night. May the Rave be with you.
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:54 AM
martryn you like swords, right? Here are some awesome swords from Rave.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/Eisenmeteor.jpg
1. Eisenmeteor (the Metal Sword)- This is the default form of the sword. It's heavy and can't be handled easily without training or experience. Its strength lies in its simplicity: it's nothing more than a simple dual-edged sword. Not enchanted or affected in any way, it has a particular use against spellcasters such as Sieg Hart, who aren't used to purely physical attacks.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/Explosion.jpg
2. Explosion- This is the first alternate form Haru reveals. Though it has no edge, Haru can use this sword to summon an explosive force that is released upon the sword's impact. The trouble is that the explosion creates a recoil on Haru that can sap his strength if used excessively.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/Silfarion.jpg
3. Silfarion (the Sonic Sword)- It enables Haru to move and attack at very high speed. Its specialty is the high-speed attack, a series of sword strokes executed faster than the blink of an eye. Its main weakness is that it is very light, so individual strokes are not very powerful. In fact, both sword and wielder become very light in this form; a strong force can end up literally blowing you away.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/Runesave.jpg
4. Rune-Save (the Sealing Sword)- It's a purely defensive sword, meaning Haru cannot hurt people with it, but this is compensated by its sealing powers. When Haru slashes an elemental or energy attack with Rune-Save, he can seal it and make it disappear. It also seems to have some ability to contain the power of Etherion, which Haru uses to seal Elie's power.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/BlueCrimson.jpg
5. Blue Crimson (the Twin Dragon Sword)- This is actually two swords, named such because one is Blue (an ice-elemental) and one is Crimson (a fire-elemental), that is revealed when the sword is broken in two again. It allows for a variety of techniques, but to really gain the full abilities of Blue Crimson, you need to be able to handle both swords at once, and since Haru's right-handed, it's not an easy feat.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/Melforce.jpg
6. Mel Force (the Vacuum Sword)- This is another defensive sword. It can't really hurt enemies, but a stroke from the sword can create a powerful vacuum that can push enemies back, preventing them from advancing.
Yasha
02-27-2006, 10:58 AM
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/GravityCore.jpg
7. Gravity Core (the Gravity Sword)- As the name implies, this sword carries with it a powerful force of gravity. This makes the sword extremely cumbersome to wield (it's heavier than even Eisenmeteor), but a stroke from the Gravity Core can send this same intense gravity at enemies or obstacles.
http://www.geocities.com/bloodyroarmaster/MillionSuns.jpg
8. Million Suns (the Light Sword)- This sacred sword glows with blinding light and is particularly effective against shadow powers.
/No pics
9. Sacrifar (the Sacrifice Sword)- The power of Sacrifar is two-edged. At the one end, you gain an incredible skill and power. At the other end, you pay for it with your sanity, becoming emotionless, remorseless, and potentially very dangerous for anyone, friend or foe, that is in your sights.
Lord Yu
02-27-2006, 11:21 PM
Hmm internestin.
Dommy
03-03-2006, 07:59 PM
Cool pictures, Yasha! :whoo
Where did you get them? :nuts
funjat
03-04-2006, 10:56 AM
As Secretary of DeFence, I am erecting an impermeable wall around Boobaria for the good of national security.
Dommy
03-06-2006, 09:28 AM
Time for business! http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5056/karatechop3cz.gif
This place should be kept alive, right? :oh
funjat
03-06-2006, 09:45 AM
Yes it should. I just wonder how long before they relocate it to the FCs section.
Dommy
03-06-2006, 10:27 AM
But the problem is that will Martryn allow that to happen or not? :sweatdrop
funjat
03-12-2006, 10:06 AM
B00baria shall have army to rival that of the US.
Dommy
03-12-2006, 10:25 AM
So have you dispatched the army to defend our BOOBaria? :oh
funjat
03-12-2006, 10:29 AM
Yes. All b00bs must be protected valiantly.
Citizen, your country needs you. *drafts Deery in the army*
Dommy
03-12-2006, 10:40 AM
Yes. All b00bs must be protected valiantly.
Citizen, your country needs you. *drafts Deery in the army*
NOOO!!! :cry
... :oh
I refuse. :notrust
*quicky flees when the Secretary of DeFence isn't aware* :bees
Yasha
03-12-2006, 10:40 AM
Protection from what?:huh From Nippleton?
funjat
03-12-2006, 10:43 AM
No. My intel tells me Silicon Valley is planning a full-scale assault on us.
*quicky flees when the Secretary of DeFence isn't aware*
Futile. I am infinitely aware of all things inside the Fence.
Dommy
03-12-2006, 10:47 AM
Futile. I am infinitely aware of all things inside the Fence.
I'm not giving up yet. :yell
-
*bombs the fence* :nuts
Yeppie, I'm free now! :occa
I'm not giving up yet. :yell
-
*bombs the fence* :nuts
Yeppie, I'm free now! :occa
Are you Deery ?:huh i don't believe this .
funjat
03-12-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm not giving up yet.
-
*bombs the fence*
Yeppie, I'm free now!
Traitor! *sends out hunter-nins*
Kiri_No_Haku
04-20-2006, 05:34 PM
Fanclub of Samurai Warriors for p.s.2. and Xbox. That is a great fanclub if you wanna join post.
This is the site.........................
http://www.koei.com/SamuraiWarriors/
1. SW Kunoichi Lover13***Leader***
2.Chamcham TriggerFC Co-owner
3.
4.
5.
Make banners.
Chamcham Trigger
04-20-2006, 05:55 PM
Oh I gotta join this. I loved SW due to being a bit DW fan, and I'm really considering importing part 2 if it takes too long to come to america, and Kunoichi was my 2nd favorite character, though I liked Yukimura much much much more :amuse.
And the game was great in both voices since you could get really into the japanese voices, and laugh at the english ones. *remembers Meeoww :lmao*
AdvicE
04-20-2006, 05:57 PM
Sweeeet. Can I join this one?
Kiri_No_Haku
04-20-2006, 06:21 PM
Okay I'll put ya'll in in a sec.
I need people to make banners.If you can tell me.
Kiri_No_Haku
04-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Chamcham,I hope you can make a banner?
Mine is http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/7607/showletter6by.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4897/040617samuraiwarriors0hj.jpg
Kiri_No_Haku
04-29-2006, 01:10 PM
If anyone wants to be in text here or message me,thx!
"The controller for PS3 employs breakthrough technology of high-precision, highly sensitive six-axis sensing system that does not require any devices other than the controller itself for seamless interactive operation, thus eliminating additional settings to TVs."
"In addition to the "3-posture-axis" of roll, pitch and yaw, "3-dimension acceleration information (X, Y, and Z)" can be detected in high-precision and in real-time. In addition to standard key input available in existing controllers, more natural and more intuitive play will become possible as if the controller has become part of your body."
That's what was said, lucky that Nintendo didn't reveal everything about the Wii controller yet.
Bisuke
05-09-2006, 07:38 AM
couldn't the Nintendo guys sue or something?
Shogun
05-09-2006, 07:39 AM
um, what about the triggers and guide button!? they robbed both nintendo and microsoft. I pity those fools, no rumble...
Manji Yoshimitsu
05-09-2006, 07:41 AM
HDTV options: Microsoft.... (now implented in the PS3)
Sensitive controller.... (no explanation needed)
Idea's... (anywhere but at Sony's... =|)
How'd you mean... *sucks*
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 07:42 AM
Sony thinks this: "Why buy two other systems when we can steal all the base ideas and throw them into one box? Buy the PS3. It's 360 degrees of Revolution. Wii!!!"
No seriously I found it funny that sony called themselves innovating XD In the beginning they also said "we are not interested in gimmicks" If so why the hell make this then
Shogun
05-09-2006, 07:43 AM
the controller could be a live rapid chipmunk and the ps3 would still be the best selling thing ever, damn consumers...
Bisuke
05-09-2006, 07:44 AM
but then again, I can't wait to have my hands on a Sony PS3!:occa
Shogun
05-09-2006, 07:45 AM
my point exactly, charge what you want, have no originality have the name on the box and boom! feeding frenzy, i no longer pity those nintendo fan boys.
Manji Yoshimitsu
05-09-2006, 07:48 AM
Wether you're a fan of this corrupt steeling, or a hater *like me*, I still drool at the games (if they're real this time.. :P).
PS3 looks good, but if its good for your ethical values... I don't know...
Shogun
05-09-2006, 07:50 AM
it is hard to tell (again) what is in game and what is video. No launch games announced...but i suppose e3 hasn't even started yet, so hopefully more will be revealed.
Goofy Titan
05-09-2006, 08:03 AM
Hell, the Wii has launch titles, and they didn't even start their confrence.
Kyuubi Naruto
05-09-2006, 08:08 AM
I don't think they actually "stole it" but thought "That's a grea idea. Interesting, you know, let's try that. Sure we won't be as good as Nintendo but it would be great to have".
~ Masamune ~
05-09-2006, 08:14 AM
Lol Nintendo's response was hilarious XD.... Meh good for Sony ^^
Kduff
05-09-2006, 08:17 AM
Are you fucking serious? They stole Nintendo's controller idea? Wow, I really underestimated Sony. They're not just an evil giant corporation, they're thieves as well?
Can anyone give me a link to where Sony said this?
Goofy Titan
05-09-2006, 08:28 AM
Ken Kutaragi was the one who pulled it out of his bastard sleeves, and then some brit guy tested it. It has a set up VERY much like the movement seen in the famous 'Revolution Unveiling' trailer
the people at Sony are genius'
CrazyMoronX
05-09-2006, 09:25 AM
Sony wins the Internet?
No, that's lame.
Sony wins E3.
Manji Yoshimitsu
05-09-2006, 09:52 AM
the people at Sony are genius'
In what way... I haven't seen anything original since the PS2... =|
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 10:05 AM
In what way... I haven't seen anything original since the PS2... =|
Since when has there been anything original from sony?
First PSone controller = copy of the snes controller
Second PSone controller = analoge stick and rumble pack stolen from the N64
Everything that sony made is based on a idea by nintendo
Ulquiorra
05-09-2006, 10:30 AM
Oh well, what do you expect?
I've lost all faith in Sony now.
Masaki
05-09-2006, 10:34 AM
I don't understand.
But at least Sony's games are good. So you get the same kind of controller for good games.
Rokudaime
05-09-2006, 10:36 AM
Sony love Nintendo but they dont share their money with Nintendo
Why Sony? Why?
@Vegitto
I dont know that Sony steal those idea from nintendo..Now I got it..
but still.. I prefer Sony game though..
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 10:38 AM
Sony love Nintendo but they dont share their money with Nintendo
Why Sony? Why?
@Vegitto
I dont know that Sony steal those idea from nintendo..Now I got it..
What? O_o; Sony trashtalks nintendo and microsoft, heck they said that the DS is irrelivant compared to the PSP
Syphorce
05-09-2006, 10:40 AM
Lol banana vs tv remote
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 10:44 AM
Lol banna vs tv remote
Um the PS3 controller is just a dual shock controller O_o
Sony screwed up. Not giving credit where credit was due. Stealing an idea(of many) from nintendo, but also stealing 3 from microsoft(2 systems, online service similar to xbox live, and finally the guide button on the controller). Now everyone knows they are stealers. Most are boycotting that 600 piece of trash.
DeepThought
05-09-2006, 10:59 AM
Man, all these jokers owe Atari a buttload of cash! /sarcasm
Grow up people.
Disastorm
05-09-2006, 12:49 PM
its a crappy copy too, supposedly it can only handle tilting and nothing else?
Syphorce
05-09-2006, 01:00 PM
Um the PS3 controller is just a dual shock controller O_o
Aw what happened to the banana/ boomerang? Its a good idea cuz if you get mad and throw the controller it will come back to you.lol
Ssj3_Goku
05-09-2006, 01:06 PM
the only thing they took was the tilt feature that is in the analog num chuck for Wii they did not take anything else so the wii is still very unquie etc.
www.ign.com talked about this as well.
NecroAngel
05-09-2006, 01:13 PM
I don't think they actually "stole it" but thought "That's a grea idea. Interesting, you know, let's try that. Sure we won't be as good as Nintendo but it would be great to have".
I agree with this... I'm sure, at one point or another, Nintendo has done something similar. Either way, I don't really care. I'm interested in getting the best system possible. If they're going to rip Nintendo/Microsoft in order to achieve this, then why should I, the individual, care?
Ssj3_Goku
05-09-2006, 01:24 PM
for 600 bucks they better have something great :lmao and that 500 dollar verison sucks lacking WI FI, HDMI :rotfl
but just leave it to sony to rip something from nintendo to achevie this greatness they are trying to get.
Nintendo has never copied off of Sony Or Microsoft and never will :oh
MechaTC
05-09-2006, 01:27 PM
Get over it people...motion sensing is a good idea and has already been used before.
It's about the games in case you all forgot >> Wait to judge sony till after they show off their games.
jkingler
05-09-2006, 01:33 PM
The gaming industry is cutthroat. Sink or swim. What did you expect? :laugh
I love Nintendo, and I love that they come up with so many original ideas, but if they can't compete simply because their ideas are being stolen, they're bound to go the way of Sega the dodo.
Tristis
05-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Wether you're a fan of this corrupt steeling, or a hater *like me*, I still drool at the games (if they're real this time.. :P).
PS3 looks good, but if its good for your ethical values... I don't know...
ever download an mp3 off the internet from a artist of any sort?
ever download a licensed anime off the internet?
ever download manga scans of an anime off the internet rather than buy the Shounen Jump copy at the local bookstore?
you seriously can't bring up ethical values if you've ever done anything remotely similar to that.
Sazaka
05-09-2006, 01:42 PM
yeah thats how sony usually works. they wait for nintendo to release a product and they wait a week to see wuts wrong with it then they change it to wut the public wants. like n64 was cartriges ps1 was cd. ps2 took rpgs (which nintendo started on console) and made them with better graphics. now it seems ps3 will take both 360 and nintendo revolution and turn it into a super system with sony as the company. i love how they are so original
jkingler
05-09-2006, 01:46 PM
I'd rather have an awesome system than an original one, sorry to say. But the games, ultimately, are what make my decision for me.
BladeofTheChad
05-09-2006, 01:51 PM
the controller could be a live rapid chipmunk and the ps3 would still be the best selling thing ever, damn consumers...
true that, good thing its the best console ever made.
crazymtf
05-09-2006, 02:11 PM
Stealing? no i think of it more as stepping up to the next step with Wii and Xbox 360. It's good that it got this, i find it well done :)
batanga
05-09-2006, 03:05 PM
It“s ripped, so what? As long as it works, who cares.
Everything“s ripped off and copied these days. The very second controller in the world ripped off the first one and so forth.
Gunners
05-09-2006, 03:09 PM
for 600 bucks they better have something great and that 500 dollar verison sucks lacking WI FI, HDMI
Im going to say this blunt, if crazymtf made this post about nintendo, you would be on his ass about it.
So what if the controller doesnt want wifi, it is no supprise when you try and make a cheaper version you generally cut the things that is not needed and wireless control is one of them.
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 03:40 PM
Im going to say this blunt, if crazymtf made this post about nintendo, you would be on his ass about it.
So what if the controller doesnt want wifi, it is no supprise when you try and make a cheaper version you generally cut the things that is not needed and wireless control is one of them.
Wireless controller? The WIFI is wireless internet, so you HAVE to have a extra internet cable and if you dont have a router you cant be online on your computer at the same time while playing on teh PS3
Stumpy
05-09-2006, 03:53 PM
true that, good thing its the best console ever made.
fanboy much?
well im disappointed in sony yet again, but i dont this this gimmick is going to change anything. ps3 prolly will come out on top yet again. lying and stealing is cool.
crazymtf
05-09-2006, 03:56 PM
^Its not hurting anyone so i dont see why everyone is mad> I find it great and happy for SONY.
Gunners
05-09-2006, 04:16 PM
Wireless controller? The WIFI is wireless internet, so you HAVE to have a extra internet cable and if you dont have a router you cant be online on your computer at the same time while playing on teh PS3
Yerh, i meant wireless controller.
jkingler
05-09-2006, 04:48 PM
Its not hurting anyone
It's hurting Nintendo, which just so happens to employ a lot of the most inventine, creative, and dedicated video game developers around. :P
But it's not exactly uncommon for such business practices to take place. If your idea isn't patented, you have to expect someone is going to rip it off and profit off of it.
Gunners
05-09-2006, 04:50 PM
Posted this in another thread.
http://img429.imageshack.us/img429/2369/cfba3100e64nv.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
You made wii jokes, well there :P
Still, i see it as a compliment to nintendo, i mean their ideal was revolutionary, it wouldnt mark a change if other comapnies didnt follow on now, would it?
Chamcham Trigger
05-09-2006, 04:52 PM
Didn't Serenade kinda cover the controller thing in here?
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=97979
Not as detailed, but less of a threat to cause unnecessary events here.
In this age of the year 2006....NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING is original. So, it's useless to scream and rant about how Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo copied someone else's idea.
Tristis
05-09-2006, 05:14 PM
true dat
originality is hella overrated.
Vegitto-kun
05-09-2006, 05:19 PM
true dat
originality is hella overrated.
If originality was overrated and not important then the DS would of failed horribly
BladeofTheChad
05-09-2006, 06:39 PM
tue, not even nintendo is original...sword fighting like that was done AGES ago in the arcades...so was the shooting, and yes there were games where u could move and shoot with a gun in the Arcades...not just light gun...
and two screens? palease, Star Trek Arcade games were using three.
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