View Full Version : Captian Kuro vs Soru
Suzumebachi
07-31-2006, 10:24 PM
I really don't see the difference.
Molekage
07-31-2006, 10:30 PM
only difference is kuro can't aim :oh
d.Lughie
07-31-2006, 10:38 PM
Basically, their moves are the same... increasing speed.. which is faster could never be determined... except by Oda himself.. but the difference is what they call their moves.. its really up to them to name a move.. the CP9 calls it Soru.. kuro calls it something else...
its not like soru is a "world-accepted" naming for increasing speed..
Dr. Hiluruk
07-31-2006, 11:12 PM
yeah, kuro couldn't really aim it, thought, cuz he was chopping everything, i remember him cutting rox and stuff.
S.o.L
07-31-2006, 11:20 PM
Yeah pretty much what everyone said, with soru you have full control and awarness of yourself and the things arouind you. But with Kuro's tecnique he just went really fast, but he had no control over his attacks.
Hitotsumami
08-01-2006, 12:34 AM
Here's a quote from the most recent SBS from Oda:
D: Which is faster, between Captain Kuro's "Shakushi" and CP9's "Soru"? TELL ME. by Niku-oh
O: Ah yes. I got a surprising number of questions about this one. Captain Kuro's Shakushi (in Vol. 5) was a pretty tough one. To answer the question, speedwise they are about the same. But when Captain Kuro uses his trick, the speed is so great that he doesn't even know who he's attacking, but CP9 has complete control of their move at the same speed. So if there were a competition, CP9 would be overwhelmingly stronger.
Suzumebachi
08-01-2006, 12:36 AM
Here's a quote from the most recent SBS from Oda:
D: Which is faster, between Captain Kuro's "Shakushi" and CP9's "Soru"? TELL ME. by Niku-oh
O: Ah yes. I got a surprising number of questions about this one. Captain Kuro's Shakushi (in Vol. 5) was a pretty tough one. To answer the question, speedwise they are about the same. But when Captain Kuro uses his trick, the speed is so great that he doesn't even know who he's attacking, but CP9 has complete control of their move at the same speed. So if there were a competition, CP9 would be overwhelmingly stronger.
AH HA! If I may ask, where do people get the SBS so I don't have to wait for the english volume ones?
AH HA! If I may ask, where do people get the SBS so I don't have to wait for the english volume ones?
http://www.mangascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/onepiece.html
Usually translated when the volume comes out. You can also find them here, without having to look through each chapter.
http://arlongpark.net/Manga/SBS
Oda already answered the question as posted above, though Soru differs from person to person, seeing as how Blueno commented on Luffy using Soru in Gear 2, and he was much faster. So I suppose if someone of the same level used either, they'd be about the same speed. Ahough I'd say Captain Kuro's normal speed is much slower than his Shakushi, seeing as how he completely loses himself, so I'm sure there should be a great enough advantage to make that risk worth it.
Xipheon
08-01-2006, 04:37 AM
Damn, you need quite some confusion if you can't see the difference -_-
Kuro is like a blind madman with his Shakushi (How was that not clearly explained during the Kuro fight?)
Soru users CAN see and are in control.
Masaki
08-01-2006, 11:34 AM
Kuro's techniques are used differently from Soru. Soru was explained, but I'm not sure about Kuro's.
Xipheon
08-01-2006, 12:46 PM
It was clearly explained that he loses control when using it..
kapsi
08-01-2006, 01:20 PM
Hah, Luffy isn't even faster now than 350 chapters ago
Hitotsumami
08-01-2006, 01:49 PM
Hah, Luffy isn't even faster now than 350 chapters ago
What? Luffy is much much much faster than he was 350 chapters ago. Have you seen Gear Second?
Suzumebachi
08-01-2006, 02:37 PM
Damn, you need quite some confusion if you can't see the difference -_-
Kuro is like a blind madman with his Shakushi (How was that not clearly explained during the Kuro fight?)
Soru users CAN see and are in control.
You come off as very rude.
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