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Comic Book Guy
07-21-2006, 11:05 AM
Judau? Camille?

Donkey Show
07-21-2006, 07:15 PM
Tomino said Judau was the strongest.

Mindless
07-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Judau by far.

exmorte
08-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Judau, however Kamille mightve developed into a much stronger newtype had things not gone the way they did....

And in any SRW videogame, Amuro is the best pilot out of all the newtypes..

NU-KazeKage
08-02-2006, 07:47 AM
wich series is this judau from and how can he be better than amuro...

dspr8_rugged
08-02-2006, 10:59 AM
Judau's from Gundam ZZ. I haven't seen it myself so I can't comment how good he is as a Newtype.

Mindless
08-02-2006, 06:31 PM
wich series is this judau from and how can he be better than amuro...

Judau is from ZZ.

How he can be better than Amuro? Well, his (Amuro's) spatial awareness is at about the same level of any other newtype, such as Char or Kamille. He can sense danger among other things. He can also use his mind to control objects, the funnels of his Nu Gundam for example, but only because the Nu Gundam is equipped with a psycommu (like a brainwave enhancer). Kamille is a bit different from Char and Amuro in a way though, which is clearly seen in Zeta and the Zeta movies.

Anyway, to the point:

Judau does not need a psycommu in order to control things in his enviroment (create shields/barries around his gundam, etc. etc., much like Kamille). In the end of ZZ, Judau could use his powers to un-dock the ZZ into it's three original parts (core fighter, upper body and lower body) just using his mind among other things.

Char and Amuro never showed such abilities, so in terms of power, Judau would be the most powerful newtype.

NejiHinata
08-02-2006, 07:02 PM
Just chiming in, Judau is the most powerful Newtype. But just like Anakin, he may be the most powerful but a skilled Newtype pilot should beat him in a straightup fight. He was a decently okay pilot, but the mistake he made.

When he seperated the ZZ, there is no way he should have been able to beat Haman there. That was a complete WTH situation right there.

Rukia
09-05-2006, 08:44 AM
Judau was the most powerful. He completely overwhelmed the one we thought was the most powerful (Haman) and reduced her to tears in an early confrontation.

Char was the weakest. Easily.

You said quick question, well there is a quick answer. Judau might have been the strongest, but he was also the lamest character. Scirroco and Haman were the coolest New Types.

NejiHinata
09-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Judau was the most powerful. He completely overwhelmed the one we thought was the most powerful (Haman) and reduced her to tears in an early confrontation.


True, but Haman was never thought strongest to my knowledge. She's strong, no doubt, but Kamille is easily more powerful than her and Scirrocco might be as well. And what she was overwhelmed by was the raw power behind Judau, a power he couldn't control. The raw power that was emanating from him both intrigued her and scared her. Which is one of the reasons she became so interested in him. Once the initial shock of Judau's newtype strength passed, she was never affected that way again.

And I still think the end of their fight was BS, but that has nothing to do with your quote.

Nasgate
09-05-2006, 07:42 PM
Char was the weakest. Easily.


Actually he isn't realy the weakest because Amuro starts out as not realy controling his powers and when Amuro JUMPS ahead of Char is when Lalah dies

although Char cant drive a car he can pilot the Nightengale smile-big

Rukia
09-06-2006, 04:24 PM
Kamille is easily more powerful than her
I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille. Considering that I always thought Haman and Scirocco were pretty similar based on their clash is all the evidence I need to ASSUME that Haman is also stronger than Kamille. Come on, NejiHinata. As Haman fans (like me) we are suppose to blindly believe that Haman is the strongest. :P
And I still think the end of their fight was BS
Stupidest way to get rid of a GREAT character that I have ever seen. They should have kept her around for Char's Counterattack at least.

Mindless
09-06-2006, 05:32 PM
I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille.

Well, the new movies change all that. :wink

NejiHinata
09-07-2006, 11:06 AM
I disagree. I see no evidence to support Kamille being stronger than her. Scirocco's ability to cripple Kamille's mind even in defeat convinces me that Scirocco was a more powerful Newtype than Kamille. Considering that I always thought Haman and Scirocco were pretty similar based on their clash is all the evidence I need to ASSUME that Haman is also stronger than Kamille. Come on, NejiHinata. As Haman fans (like me) we are suppose to blindly believe that Haman is the strongest. :P

Stupidest way to get rid of a GREAT character that I have ever seen. They should have kept her around for Char's Counterattack at least.


1. I shouldn't have used the word "easily" as we don't know what she'd be able to accomplish when put into a plot device system such as the Zeta and the ZZ had.

2. Scirocco was using Kamille's own power against him, it wasn't so much Scirocco that crippled Kamille as Kamille crippling Kamille via a redirection by Scirocco. And that was only because, by touching the Zeta, Scirrocco was able to tap into the same system Kamille was using, creating a backlash. So I still wouldn't say Scirocco is more powerful than Kamille.

3. Yes, I would like to blindly believe Haman to be most powerful, but I was kind of giving credit where credit is due. And those two, Judau and Kamille, deserve to get credit. I still say she was the best Zeon pilot. Even better than Char. There, I said it. Char fanboys attack, whatever. She kicked his ass and you know it.

Rukia
09-07-2006, 04:39 PM
Hey Neji, you know this Sakura icon that we can select? Don't you wish that was Haman instead? I sure do.

I don't know if Haman was a better pilot than Char, but she was a better Newtype. I have been ordering Char's Deleted Affair from Amazon Japan pretty much 1 book at a time, and it's been interesting reading about Haman's abilities developing.

zeheero1982
09-30-2006, 07:18 AM
Judau is from ZZ.

How he can be better than Amuro? Well, his (Amuro's) spatial awareness is at about the same level of any other newtype, such as Char or Kamille. He can sense danger among other things. He can also use his mind to control objects, the funnels of his Nu Gundam for example, but only because the Nu Gundam is equipped with a psycommu (like a brainwave enhancer). Kamille is a bit different from Char and Amuro in a way though, which is clearly seen in Zeta and the Zeta movies.

Anyway, to the point:

Judau does not need a psycommu in order to control things in his enviroment (create shields/barries around his gundam, etc. etc., much like Kamille). In the end of ZZ, Judau could use his powers to un-dock the ZZ into it's three original parts (core fighter, upper body and lower body) just using his mind among other things.

Char and Amuro never showed such abilities, so in terms of power, Judau would be the most powerful newtype.

I am going to have to disagree with ya. Aleast Amuro wasn't trying to be like characters from G gundam:laugh

Mindless
09-30-2006, 10:00 AM
I am going to have to disagree with ya. Aleast Amuro wasn't trying to be like characters from G gundam:laugh

I fail to see your point. Was Judau anything like the guys from G Gundam? :huh

lunamaria-chan
12-08-2006, 05:43 AM
Judau was the Strongest, but least effective of the leads.

Char-Aznable
01-01-2007, 12:20 AM
Judau had potential but was in reality not so great. I'd have to say Amuro Ray was the best his newtype potential grew remarkably and he was an amazing pilot. Closely followed by Judau, Lalah and Char, in that order.

Mindless
01-01-2007, 08:29 PM
Judau had potential but was in reality not so great. I'd have to say Amuro Ray was the best his newtype potential grew remarkably and he was an amazing pilot. Closely followed by Judau, Lalah and Char, in that order.

Kamille? :cry

Char-Aznable
01-02-2007, 02:20 PM
Kid had a huge stick up his bum, he was good but look at him now. Where did all his talent get him?

In a wheel chair thats where.

KuwabaraTheMan
01-02-2007, 02:43 PM
That's stupid. Kamille was more powerful than everyone you mentioned except Judau, as far as Newtype powers go.

Char never showed any notable Newtype abilities, as cool and badass as he was.

Char-Aznable
01-02-2007, 03:12 PM
Kind of why I put him last. Don't go judgin me by my name. Now Kamille was a great new type but I feel the ones I specified where more powerful. Maybe Kamille was more powerful than Lalah. Oh and have you ever seen Char's Counter Attack? Char did show some notable newtype qualities there, but only due to the enhancement of his Sazabi.

Plus (here comes a fanboy opinion) Char is so badass of a pilot newtype abilities aren't needed.

KuwabaraTheMan
01-02-2007, 03:33 PM
I've seen CCA(although its been 4 years since I last saw it), and I do agree Char is very badass.

Just, not so much when it comes to Newtype powers.

My rankings would be:
Judau>Kamille>Haman>Sciorroco>Amuro>Lalah>Char in terms of Newtypes.

Kamille never quite reached his full potential, though. But I believe it was his powers that awakened Judau's.

Char-Aznable
01-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Hmmm Haman. I forgot about her and Scirocco.

O-ushi
01-05-2007, 11:45 AM
I'd say either Uso Evin or Judau Ashta. 13 year old Uso had developed newtype abilities similar to Kamille and Judau. Although Kamille and Judau have performed feats that he hasn't (controlling funnels/bits, creating forcefields) they were able to do those things with the aid of there biosensor/psycommu system. It also questionable how much of Kamille and Judau's abilities were boosted in battle by the biosensor.
If Uso's V2 had a psycommu system who knows what he'd be able to do.:amazed