SEED CE 73 - Stargazer Episode Discussion Thread [Archive]

O-ushi

07-14-2006, 04:20 PM

Well Stargazer Episode 01 was released today.
You can get the torrent for the raw here: http://bt.popgo.net/down/down.php?hash=0377eb912fc473d46bac2543edbe37509924 988b
or here: http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=27541

Screenshots from the 1st ep you can see here: http://bbs.dmzj.com/read.php?tid=79297

Gundam Seed C.E. 73: Stargazer Official Site (Japanese) (http://www.seed-stargazer.net/)

Edit: Let me just remind everyone that this is not a 3rd season of Gundam SEED. Stargazer is a 3 episode sidestory that takes place after junius 7 fragments had hit earth during Gundam Seed Destiny. Each episode is 15mins long. Check here for the premise, they explain it better than I can:P . http://www.mahq.net/animation/gundam/seed-stargazer/gssgmain.htm

starsun

07-14-2006, 04:27 PM

whats the show about?!

Kira Yamato

07-14-2006, 04:32 PM

*waits to see if/when a sub is eventually released for this episode* :oh

Hokage Naruto

07-14-2006, 04:35 PM

I'll watch this when the sub comes out and someone is nice enough to upload it for direct download. Lets hope its better than Seed, cause I didn't like that installment.

Deranged

07-14-2006, 04:37 PM

Ah i heard there was gonna be a new gundam season realeased around this season.. ill be sure to check it out when a sub of the first episode comes out :amuse

O-ushi

07-14-2006, 04:37 PM

whats the show about?!

Stargazer is a 3 episode sidestory that takes place after junius 7 fragments had hit earth during Gundam Seed Destiny. Each episode is 15 mins long.
You can look here for the premise, they explain it better than I can:P : http://www.mahq.net/animation/gundam/seed-stargazer/gssgmain.htm

*waits to see if/when a sub is eventually released for this episode* :oh

It shouldnt be too long till the first ep is subbed. (I think:laugh )

starsun

07-14-2006, 04:41 PM

Oh so its a mecha thingy :/... not really found of it but thanks for the info though!

O-ushi

07-14-2006, 05:14 PM

Having been able to watch the first episode of Stargazer, Its very impressive. The animation was great (no stock footage was used, its all brand new). Even though its only 15 mins long, the pacing was great, didnt seem rushed at all, it actualy felt appropriately long. Even though the mecha battles are taking a back seat to character development, the mecha fight show in this ep was great, there was an excellent battle between a Ginn and Edmund in a Linear Tank!

dspr8_rugged

07-14-2006, 05:50 PM

Ah, so the first of three episodes is out already. I guess I need to wait for the subbed version to come out.

And it really is 15 minutes long, too short if you ask me.

O-ushi

07-14-2006, 07:14 PM

Episode 01 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/07/14/gundam-seed-ce-73-stargazer-01/)

dspr8_rugged

07-14-2006, 09:37 PM

Just looked at the screencaps, and avoided the summary. :P I have to say that the animation is quite good. Vibrant, that is. Which is good. :)

I just found out that "Stargazer" is a Gundam... a very um, lame-looking Gundam (All white?!) I wonder how it fares in battle. Maybe it's more than it looks.

Wesley

07-14-2006, 09:57 PM

Donkey Show

07-15-2006, 02:01 AM

Wow, that felt like a 30 minute episode. Seriously, that's how a Gundam episode should be. Great pacing, awesome animation (love the character designs since they all the characters don't have the same faces), and the ambiance was just dark and amazing, just like how a war torn world should be. Can't wait for the next one already. ^^

Wesley

07-15-2006, 02:05 AM

Has it been subbed yet?

Portaljacker

07-15-2006, 09:55 AM

Yes by Mendoi. Look on Tokyotosho.

Haohmaru

07-15-2006, 10:17 AM

Link http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:2710/torrents/b95f70806bb87d343bad20ae082f6986635124e3.torrent

Kira Yamato

07-15-2006, 11:20 AM

So far so good.

I felt I was teased a little bit when they showed those 3 mobile suits at the very end. Strike Noir sounds pretty cool :oh

And the story takes place during the time that Junuis 7 crashed into earth. That's a clever way of expanding that role. They didn't go into it in great detail in Seed and to have such a detail story now is great decision on their part.

Looking forward to episode 2. :amuse

Brandt

07-15-2006, 11:32 AM

Wait, it's already been released? Damn, can't believe I missed that. :P I've definitely been waiting for this for a while.

Kira Yamato

07-15-2006, 12:01 PM

Now Available

~Direct Download~
[Mendoi]_Gundam_SEED_CE73_Stargazer_-_STAGE_I.avi (http://www.sendspace.com/file/es1fnz)

Portaljacker

07-15-2006, 12:05 PM

Mendai said the quality wasn't that good. Is it good? I want to make GIFs for myself from it.

Kira Yamato

07-15-2006, 12:07 PM

Portaljacker

07-15-2006, 12:10 PM

Was the episode 25 minutes long?Can someone post the OP and ED on youtube?

Edit: @Kira, what show is that avy from?

Nathan

07-15-2006, 12:11 PM

The only Gundum season I liked is SEED. I never saw DESTINY. So even if I did watch this, I would have no idea what's going on.

@link: Considering it's a 15 minute show, they have no time for a OP and ED.

Kira Yamato

07-15-2006, 12:41 PM

Was the episode 25 minutes long?Can someone post the OP and ED on youtube?

Edit: @Kira, what show is that avy from?

The episode is about 16 minutes long, so like mentioned before tehre really is no OP or a real ED >_>

And the gif is from Strawberry Panic O_O

and Stargazer takes place during the Destiny timeline, so it would help to watch Destiny to get a good understanding of this series. But it's still enjoyable either ways.

Donkey Show

07-15-2006, 02:38 PM

The quality was pretty decent. I really had no complaints. But I didn't see anything really gif worthy in my opinion. I just wish they had a more detailed animation (well, actually just longer) of the Strike Noir :oh
What are you talking about? That was the best damn Ginn ever animated. It brought back the menacing look of the monoeye MS, i.e. Zakus from the UC series.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4489/sgginn53tk.gif

Wesley

07-15-2006, 02:44 PM

What are you talking about? That was the best damn Ginn ever animated. It brought back the menacing look of the monoeye MS, i.e. Zakus from the UC series.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4489/sgginn53tk.gif

That's evil! I was like "Oh sh!t. It's looking at me!".

Portaljacker

07-15-2006, 03:53 PM

That's awsome!

@Tohru, didn't I give you those disks to copy onto your PC? or did you never use them? Also, go on msn!

xeleron

07-16-2006, 02:07 AM

Buster, Duel, strike.. I don't really like the black color of new strike gundam; I like the old strike's color more :P They should of just started another series from stargazer. :P The characters will hopefully are more interesting, as there age seem to be more mature than shin.. and seem a little bit more human than kira..

darksage78

07-16-2006, 04:36 PM

Brandt

07-16-2006, 04:41 PM

O-ushi

07-16-2006, 06:18 PM

Looks good so far, this was what I was hoping Destiny bring. Hope those pilots aren't uber powerd though. I'd buy 1/100 HG versions of the new Duel and Buster, not sure about Strike Noir... btw is Fukuda directing these OVAs?

Nope
The Staff for Stagazer:
- Director: Susumu Nishizawa - Before this he's manily been a Storyboard Artist for a bunch of animes and he was also part of the storyboard team in Gundam Seed Destiny for eps 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 17, 19, 22, 24, 25, 27, 29, 31, 33, 35, 37, 39, 41, 43-50. Storyboard artists are the people who decide how layouts of key frames look.

- Script: Shigeru Morita - the Screenplay writer, is the CE universe settings guru. He was a member of Seed and Seed Destiny's writing staff and he's the guy responsible for coordinating things with the Astray team. He's also one of the guys who coordinate the writing of background story, technology and that kind of thing for the CE universe (as well as the Gundam Evolve series)

- Character Designer: Kenichi Ohnuki - was a member of the Seed and Seed Destiny animation director team. In Destiny he worked on Eps 5, 11, 17, 24, 30, 36, 43, and 49. IMO his style has been the most consistent out of all of the animation directors in Seed. Plus he's also done other works like Tomino's Garzey's Wing as a character designer.

The Mecha designs are done by BEECRAFT (who also designed the Astray Suits).

BTW Dont credit me for all this info, I got it from someone else.

darksage78

07-16-2006, 08:35 PM

Thanks, sounds more promising if its not Fukuda. And BEECRAFT has certainly done a good job with the suit designs. Strike Noir actually doesn't look that bad, but its not as similar to the Strike as Impulse was in my opinion. And another question, the OVA started in South America right?

Donkey Show

07-16-2006, 08:39 PM

Yeah, that was in South America. As for the Strike Noir Design, besides the head, shoulders and the Noir Striker pack, it's pretty much the same design.

darksage78

07-16-2006, 08:49 PM

Maybe its just the colours for me then XD but in the end its probably because Strike's sales were good so it was encouraged for the main MS to be based off of it in some way. Its too bad Stargazer will only be 3 episodes, they should make it longer.

ScR3WiEuS

07-16-2006, 09:12 PM

lol, well i didn't mean to say the subs were bad... they're ok
it's just the video quality that isn't amazing. but that's because it was released as an ONA, or original net animation. basically, for better video, wait until the DVD is out sometime in november or so

Donkey Show

07-16-2006, 09:13 PM

Personally I think it's the face design. It just doesn't strike me (seriously no pun intended) as really cool. The original Strike head is awesome and I even colored my PG Strike in Noir Colors, which actually look really good.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=4464601&postcount=1054

BattousaiMS

07-17-2006, 12:51 AM

The storyline isn't all clear in ep1. It's something about the lady going to space for possibly an interplanetary mission while her man fights one of the renegate Zala supporters and his jinn with a tank... Oh yeah, there is hardly any info about sven and his groups mission and how they are related to this lady. Eitherway, that song is soo good!!! Strike Noir doesn't look shabby either, makes you wonder why they didn't go with it in the series (well atleast give it to Mew to be used during the type he was using that pink ms.

Jujubie

07-17-2006, 05:31 AM

I liked it! ^^ But I want more Kira and his newtype/SEED/god/maphax pwnage =/
And ScR3WiEuS! O_O!

Jh1stgen

07-17-2006, 06:16 AM

Woah ... this is so awesome! Heard very nice reviews from it, but with most ppl here .. i think ima wait til subs comes out

darksage78

07-17-2006, 09:36 AM

Well if Strike Noir turns out to be a popular model, they'll probably go into HG 1/100 and possibly MG, I doubt PG. All Bandai has to do is a slightly remold the Strike and change up colours which they were well known for in GSD lol *glares at Zakus*

And yes that song is amazing, was it Tears or something else?

ScR3WiEuS

07-17-2006, 07:28 PM

Woah ... this is so awesome! Heard very nice reviews from it, but with most ppl here .. i think ima wait til subs comes out
uh, mendoi already released it like... the same day. anyhow

Jujubie:

FUCK YEAH, kira is my god. hope he makes a tiny appearance, KICKING SUM ASS.

Donkey Show

07-17-2006, 08:34 PM

No, Kira's presence will ruin Stargazer, just like how it did Destiny. XD

ViolentlyHappy

07-17-2006, 09:00 PM

No, Kira's presence will ruin Stargazer, just like how it did Destiny. XD

No way! With Kira in Destiny it made everything a bit more interesting! Just like it will in Stargazer..... :laugh

hopefully :lmao

staradderdragoon

07-17-2006, 09:17 PM

darksage78

07-17-2006, 10:35 PM

I hope Kira doesn't appear in Stargazer, but Kira kinda saved Destiny. Just watched Destiny Special 1 to get me back into the mood of things for Stargazer lol But after watching Stargazer again, I really want to see 1/100 HG models for Blu Duel and Verde Buster. On another note, anyone think it was supposed to be Bleu Duel and Verte Buster? Since it was Strike Noire, just to keep the whole french thing going?

btw Donkey Show, you're black Strike looks kickass. I've never built a PG and if I ever did I probably couldn't do a good total paint job on it. Good job on yours :)

BattousaiMS

07-17-2006, 11:47 PM

anyone know the name of that song and the singer? I want to d/l it so bad.

Donkey Show

07-18-2006, 12:46 AM

no kira will ruin it cause he'll just rape everyone making the entire show pointless...so far so good, i mean i liked how it didnt seem short though did that guy in the tank die? cause if he did, that would suck. i really like the character designs in this series especially selene...lol

Yeah, he's pretty much dead.

And Kira's godliness and "perfect" character really diminishes the show's value and war oriented story. He was great in SEED as he still had a tough time with the druggies even with SEED mode and Freedom, but in Destiny... bleh. :mad

btw Donkey Show, you're black Strike looks kickass. I've never built a PG and if I ever did I probably couldn't do a good total paint job on it. Good job on yoursThanks a lot man! I'm glad it came out that way, tbh, cuz I was never really good at spray painting to begin with in the first place. I like the design of the Strike better and I thought it'd be cool if Sven had a custom Strike like Cagalli with her Rouge. Next up is my MG Zeta Titans Custom. ^^

staradderdragoon

07-18-2006, 01:09 AM

wait, whats so good about the destiny special 1? thats lame, edmunds dead

BattousaiMS

07-18-2006, 01:12 AM

Stargazer ~Hoshi No Tobira~ (Door Of The Stars) by Satori Negishi. That's the song!!!
Edmond is most likely dead, it's a tree part 15mins each story so you really cant expect them to give more time. I still don't see the link between Selenne and Sven though...

Jh1stgen

07-18-2006, 08:47 AM

ssouske

07-18-2006, 09:46 AM

its actually kinda pointless for kira to show up in stargazer... remember its a sidestory... it actually happened with destiny... so during part 1 of stargazer, kira should still be sitting on his chair in orb or maybe uhm... looking up in the sky or something... maybe a cameo appearance of the GS and GSD characters would not hurt stargazer... but if they actually do something in the story, i think its kinda dumb if that happens...

darksage78

07-18-2006, 10:08 AM

Watched it and i am very impressed. This is how the gundam serie should be ... the animation and especially the plot is very smexy!

Is Buster, Duel and noir strike the ones that was piloted in gundam seed? Or just different ones that was built?
Different ones that were built, I doubt ZAFT would just toss Duel and Buster over, probably recycled them lol

BattousaiMS

07-18-2006, 11:33 AM

I checked details on the Pantom and Pain team and apparently they are a faction of Blue Cosmos, which means that Sven and his two buddies are most likely BC crownies, guess they are the 'bad guys'. Still don't see how he is linked with Selenne and her space project though. I mean they are on earth going to Auzzy land to kick some ZAFT butt, while she is already in space.

So I guess it's a two way story, on plain we have Selenne and her space exploration on the other we have Sven and his ZAFT butt kicking + BC ideals (?). Unless he can somehow suddenly drive into Space and meet her and attempt attacking her and her project then have a change of heart and ecome a good guy (ala Canard Pars) but very unlikely, especially given that we most likely have another 30 mins of the show and all this cannot be compacted in that amount of time. You would need atleast an hour more.

Rice Ball

07-18-2006, 01:34 PM

I don't think your going to see Athuran or Kira :(

This looks like its a side story away from the main one. (that happened at the same time) So the main characters from Destiny will all be elsewhere

ShangDOh

07-19-2006, 04:02 PM

Now THIS is what Destiny should've been. I was very impressed with the animation quality and character designs, sort of reminds me of 8th MS team, has the same gritty feeling to it. I hope that none of the main characters will play any sort of role in the story, since they will just ruin it with perfectness.

dspr8_rugged

07-20-2006, 07:43 AM

I finally got the chance to watch Stage 1 of Stargazer. The very first thing I noticed upon watching is the visuals - astounding, and definitely better than either of SEED or Destiny.

Story-wise, okay, we're introduced to the cast, nothing much happens. Though I have to admit that I had goosebumps when the Strike Noir launched. I mean, I always look for the part where the main Gundam launches in every Gundam series. :amuse

Though my fears are starting to come true. I mean, the first episode is too short, not to mention that there are only three episodes for this one. I just hope that the next one will be able to provide more story development (and mecha battles as well... :) ).

Regarding the topic that Kira shows up in Stargazer - absurd. No cameos from any character from SEED or Destiny. As most said, any cameos will definitely destroy the good start of this series, especially Kira.

I just want to ask this: Does anyone know were the Strike Noir, Blu Duel and Verde Buster came from?

Jh1stgen

07-20-2006, 09:06 AM

Even tho i think the appearance of Kira will just ruin the serie .. the other side of me want to see the animation of Kira and Freedom. The visual effect would be so sick

Mindless

08-18-2006, 06:13 PM

Episode two is out. Here's the torrent:

Gundam SEED C. E. 73 -Stargazer- Episode 2 (http://p.greedland.net/download.php?t=2006/08/19/1155921647.torrent)

Donkey Show

08-19-2006, 03:30 PM

Ohhh... I'm gonna have to check this out when I get home from work tonight. =D

Time to see some Slaughter Daggers pwn some people with their anti-personnel foot guns. XD

Portaljacker

08-19-2006, 06:19 PM

Episode two is out. Here's the torrent:

Gundam SEED C. E. 73 -Stargazer- Episode 2 (http://p.greedland.net/download.php?t=2006/08/19/1155921647.torrent)
You got my hopes up with that RAW.

Mindless

08-19-2006, 08:10 PM

Better RAW here. No Realplayer stuff.

Gundam SEED C. E. 73 -Stargazer- Episode - 02 (http://www.zeonic-corps.net/tracker/download.php?action=torrent&info_hash=f1cf3c881d043657275976fd98f991ce51aec939 )

dspr8_rugged

08-20-2006, 06:31 AM

I'll stay away from the raws and be patient until a subbed version comes up. But thanks for that info, Mindless. It's about time for that second episode. :)

Mindless

08-20-2006, 07:32 AM

I think the next one will be out on September 22nd.

me_is_david

08-22-2006, 04:21 AM

well I'm sure no one else has seen eps 2 yet since it hasn't been subbed but I DLed and watched flipped through the raw cuz i had nothing else to DL and I wanted to see Blu Duel, Verde Buster and Strike Noir in action and wtf.

WTF, Mudie Holcroft dies already. -_-.. I was starting to like her too and they kill of Blu Duel and Mudie :cry
gay....Gay......GAY. :mad sigh...oh well, should've expected it anyway since it is only 45 mins total, but man what a fucked up way to kill a female pilot lol. >.<

Haohmaru

08-22-2006, 04:43 PM

Ep 2 sub by mendoi http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:2710/torrents/292c8e491133ae8892cb1307440d942af5c63592.torrent

Portaljacker

08-22-2006, 04:46 PM

YAY! I've been waiting for this!

Mindless

08-22-2006, 05:05 PM

OMFG YAY AT LAST!!!

[LonE] _Negishi_Satori_-_Gundam_SEED_Destiny_OVA_C.E._73_Stargazer _OP_-_STARGAZER_~_Hoshi_no_Tobira_[w_scans]_(WV).rar (http://bt.nanashi-fansubs.com:2710/torrents/c46daa7e3c95f06a4f697f96360ae5891ba8ac1d.torrent)

ZOKU GETTO!!!

LOL.

Love that song.

Kira Yamato

08-22-2006, 05:29 PM

Poor Mudie saw her end apparently in that episode...right? :oh

Wow..if it wasn't for a few key things in that episode, I would have kept forgetting what time line these events happened. Ans seeing Stellar there was one of those key remineders. There was some pretty good action happening in that epsiode.

And of course they had to show those training flashbacks and this propaganda laced messages about killing all coordinators, so were suppose to understand how there able to go about freely killing there enemies (for the most part anyways)

Great episode IMO :noworry

Portaljacker

08-22-2006, 05:31 PM

Isn't this thread just ep 1 discussion? I think it should just be named the general discussion for the OVA.

darksage78

08-22-2006, 05:49 PM

Thanks Mindless for the song, downloading Stage 2 right now. Can't wait :)

Kira Yamato

08-22-2006, 05:57 PM

~Direct Download~

[Mendoi]_Gundam_SEED_CE73_Stargazer_-_STAGE_II.avi (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FDLVQ3MK)

Portaljacker

08-22-2006, 08:01 PM

Man I love that Gundam shown at the end. But what about the Phantom pain's strange mission,
aren't they going to destroy a Natural built Gundam?

Freija

08-22-2006, 08:03 PM

n_n if it doesn't have Kira it doesn't have me as a viewer... xD

Kira Yamato

08-22-2006, 08:05 PM

n_n if it doesn't have Kira it doesn't have me as a viewer... xD

LOL...that's how I feel for the most part but I gave it a shot. It's pretty good although it's hard for me to form a bond with the characters since I'm so use to SEED and Destiny. It helps a little that this stpry occurs during the Destiny timeline so I don't feel lost xD

Donkey Show

08-23-2006, 06:22 AM

n_n if it doesn't have Kira it doesn't have me as a viewer... xD
Bah, Kira would ruin Stargazer like he did Destiny. :amazed

Anyway... Yeah, Mudie ate it big time with the Kerberos BUCUE gang bang. Oh well, thus is war and people die, which is nice to know that no one is damn nigh invincible, besides in SEED and Destiny. -_- At least the directors for Stargazer took that path. And this seems like a clipshow more than anything else, but considering the time constraints, I don't mind it so much. Strike Noir is so gangsta. XD Another thing, it seems like we're getting one main character death each episode. Would it be possible to see either Sven or Shams eat it big before the end of Stargazer?

Also, did anyone notice how Stargazer is programmed with html coding? XD

Zektgn

08-23-2006, 07:00 AM

Very good episode but there too short : /. I have a question about stargazer though. Its suppose to explore the galaxy and examine other planets right? and about the propolsion. There going to have it move around by shooting it with a lazer?

dspr8_rugged

08-23-2006, 07:14 AM

Thanks to the direct d/l link, I was able to see the second episode.

Change of pace from the first one, 'cause this one's fast, fast, fast! Yes, it does have flashbacks and a feeling of a recap of the events of Destiny, but it's necessary since we see how Sven and his group fit in the story. We even see appearances by Azrael, Sting and Stellar too. Not only the fast pacing, but also abundance of mecha battles. Too bad Blu Duel got pwned early. And I have to admire Sven's piloting capabilities.

However, that still doesn't clear up the question on where the hell they got their mobile suits.

Hopefully, in Stage 3, we see how Sven meets up with the DSSD people, and who will eventually pilot Stargazer (I have a feeling it will be piloted by someone and it can do more aside from navigation purposes...) and maybe duel the Strike Noir for whatever reason.

Anyway... until next month then.

Also, did anyone notice how Stargazer is programmed with html coding? XD
Ah, yes, as a programmer, I immediately noticed that. Even in Stage 1. :amuse

Oh, BTW, does anyone have a direct, non-torrent, d/l link of Hoshi no Tobira? I only have the TV size version.

darksage78

08-23-2006, 08:33 AM

Yeah DS, I noticed that too. Funny how I learnt it earlier this year in school too lol

I thought the episode was really well done imo. Better than the first one, I'd like to see what Stargazer is really for and what it can do against the Noir. Too bad Mudie died right away, I really liked Blu Duel. Also could they not be extendeds? They don't seem as skilled as the other three, but they went under a similar training process. Probably a failed Eurasian imitation is my theory. Loved the Stellar cameo XD

Freija

08-23-2006, 11:30 AM

Bah, Kira would ruin Stargazer like he did Destiny. :amazed

Anyway... Yeah, Mudie ate it big time with the Kerberos BUCUE gang bang. Oh well, thus is war and people die, which is nice to know that no one is damn nigh invincible, besides in SEED and Destiny. -_- At least the directors for Stargazer took that path. And this seems like a clipshow more than anything else, but considering the time constraints, I don't mind it so much. Strike Noir is so gangsta. XD Another thing, it seems like we're getting one main character death each episode. Would it be possible to see either Sven or Shams eat it big before the end of Stargazer?

Also, did anyone notice how Stargazer is programmed with html coding? XD
what ruined Destiny=emo's and bad plot.

staradderdragoon

08-24-2006, 08:37 PM

same here. im curious about what stargazer can do. looks tight but still seems weird just having it. those BuCues were ridiculous. those fangs! so awesome. seems like sven doesnt want to kill innocent ppl. im wondering what Sven and his group are too. cause the way he said "they're probably extended" it sounded as if the extended were inferior to him. i dunno. anyone explain?

Portaljacker

08-24-2006, 08:51 PM

At what points did you see the programming?

Edit: NVM

Donkey Show

08-25-2006, 04:46 AM

what ruined Destiny=emo's and bad plot.
And Kira was a huge part of that bad plot. But this isn't about Destiny so I'll stop from there. XD

Very good episode but there too short : /. I have a question about stargazer though. Its suppose to explore the galaxy and examine other planets right? and about the propolsion. There going to have it move around by shooting it with a lazer?
The laser that they shot at Stargazer was supposed to imitate the solar rays that travel from the sun. That's how supposedly Stargazer will travel throughout the Solar System, by riding solar waves with the Voliture Lumiere and not having to worry about it's own propulsion for planet hopping.

And yeah, the three aren't extendeds. They just happen to be assigned to the Phantom Pain. As for their suits, they probably excelled above all the other pilots in the unit so they were given their own suits, like how Neo had the Exass and the custom Windam in Destiny.

darksage78

08-25-2006, 08:39 AM

5 bucks says that Sven will defect over to DSSD and poor Verde will blow up... And why would Phantom Pain want that thing?

Donkey Show

08-25-2006, 03:31 PM

Because Logos is greedy and they want the technology to themselves, which is what I'm assuming.

wherezmytofu

08-25-2006, 05:52 PM

what does the star gazer do anyhow? dont tell me its a scentific gundam -_-,

Mindless

08-25-2006, 07:09 PM

what does the star gazer do anyhow? dont tell me its a scentific gundam -_-,

It's a 'scientific gundam' as you say. It was created for the soul purpose of exploration. It does sport a pair of beamshields (one on each arm) and some vulcans on the head (I think), but that's about it. It's not a fighting machine, but I guess it could be made into one.

Portaljacker

08-25-2006, 07:11 PM

It's purpose is to be an unmaned exploration Gundam. But I'm assuming they had the idea to turn it into an unmanned fighting machine at one point.

dspr8_rugged

08-25-2006, 10:25 PM

Definitely, in one way or another, the Stargazer will engage in mobile suit battle in the final episode. Whether it's AI-controlled or piloted, I have the feeling that it will.

Unless Stage-3 really proves us wrong.

What's the use of a title suit if it doesn't do anything aside from exploring? :P

ssouske

08-25-2006, 11:26 PM

hmmm... what is the point of making an unmanned exploration gundam anyway?:blink

staradderdragoon

08-25-2006, 11:47 PM

well, its possible that they used a gundam cause of its humanoid form. so, it could pick up things more efficiently? its just a guess

ssouske

08-26-2006, 09:27 AM

but wouldn't any other mobile suit type in humanoid form be okay too?:P the only real difference between gundams and none gundam MS in CE is the head and a few toys... so im still baffled by the question, of all the other vehicle types and mobile suits, WHY A GUNDAM?!?

dspr8_rugged

08-26-2006, 10:32 AM

Okay, there were also reports prior to the release of the initial pictures that the Stargazer is an space-exploration mobile suit, buUuuUut... we were quite surprised that it was really a Gundam.

Why a Gundam for space exploration purposes only? Simple - IMO, it's the title and not for anything else. Most Gundam series have its respective title mobile suit - and it's usually Gundam. Stargazer is no exception. :)

What else? For Bandai to have more reasons to sell model kits... :P

Donkey Show

08-26-2006, 12:36 PM

Gundams for the most part have always been either one-shot prototypes and testbeds for new technologies. That's why it's a Gundam.

staradderdragoon

08-26-2006, 06:17 PM

well, in that case. stargazer could be a test for new forms of power.....i dunno. though without a gun, i dont think i would ever consider buying stargazer as a model.

Donkey Show

08-26-2006, 06:22 PM

Well, Stargazer is the testbed for the Voiture Lumiere propulsion system.

Portaljacker

08-26-2006, 06:57 PM

^Isn't that like a solar sail? Also, what do you think of my new avy?

staradderdragoon

08-26-2006, 08:21 PM

thats like the best fight scene in the episode. so, its f-ing awesome

ssouske

08-26-2006, 08:58 PM

Gundams for the most part have always been either one-shot prototypes and testbeds for new technologies. That's why it's a Gundam.
oh now that makes sense...:amuse

Mindless

08-26-2006, 09:40 PM

well, in that case. stargazer could be a test for new forms of power.....i dunno. though without a gun, i dont think i would ever consider buying stargazer as a model.

Ah... I see gundams turning into GaoGaiGar or something now... wow...

And for some reason, despite Stargazer's strange looks, I kinda like the design on it. It's getting a 1/144 HG and it looked pretty cool, but honestly, I wonder how you're supposed to make it look good with that shiney stuff in the armor.

staradderdragoon

08-26-2006, 11:30 PM

Mindless

08-27-2006, 10:03 AM

well, the conversion kit for strike freedom looked terrific even with all the gold joints....so i dunno. what gaogaigar? but besides that, i gotta check out this 1/144 HG model. one question, even though this should be in the modeling thread, how come there arent any MG versions of GSD gundams?

I meant gundam using powers like super attacks. :P

Hm... how come there aren't any GSD MG's? Don't know really. But it's probably a popularity issue, many of the GSD kits were 'FOTM' (Flavour of the Month) kits, like everyone loved them at first, but after a while, they remembered the superiority of the older UC designs.

There will definately be a MG Destiny and Strike Feedom (due to their popularity in the anime), when, is a whole other question though.

darksage78

08-27-2006, 10:23 AM

I'd just rather see the 1/100 HG kits for the main suits in GSD but again their popularity may not lead to their production.

God forbid Gundams using super attacks >__<

dspr8_rugged

08-27-2006, 11:15 AM

We had enough of that in GSD... :P

Mindless

08-27-2006, 12:00 PM

Well, MG's aren't really needed for Destiny. The HG's hold such high quality it's almost unnecessary to make MG's of them (at least when it comes to Legend, great kit). And if you DO want a MG Destiny (for example) you can just kibash it using some other MG's frame with a little ingenuity.

Looking forward to the MG Crossbone right now. Then I'm getting this Nu Gundam conversion kit.

http://www.akocreation.com/model%20show/Rimg1896.jpg

ssouske

08-27-2006, 12:10 PM

how come there arent any MG versions of GSD gundams?
i think its a little bit pre-mature to release more MG grades for CE... just think how long did most UC MSes got their own MG version. probably in the next 10-15 years we'll see more AU MSes and Gundams in MG... BUT as for the popular ones(i.e. SF and Destiny), i think in 1-2 years time, we will see one...

anyway, back to the topic, i finally brought myself to see the 1st 2 stages of Stargazer and im impressed... but i do think that 3 eps of 15-20mins is way too short...

staradderdragoon

08-27-2006, 06:58 PM

well, i saw all the GSD models and like you said, the Legend looks great. but only the legend. i am curious though, you said the UC models. which ones? i mean, ive seen several of them, but there weren'mt much that i liked. maybe its cause my taste. so when is the final stage for stargazer coming out?

xeleron

08-28-2006, 09:37 PM

I love the stargazer, as it has the potential to become very human since it continues to learn. As long as it doesn't turn into another version of mobile doll from wing, I think this series should last way longer. Like if the anime can emphasis more on the exploration of the world, and little more with quauntum mechanics, maybe the perspective of the war from stargazer's perspective... etc etc.....

ssouske

08-29-2006, 02:14 AM

the sad part about this is its a 3 episode OVA. :cry

darksage78

08-31-2006, 11:09 PM

And after that is probably the movie which will be directed by Fukuda *gasp*

wherezmytofu

08-31-2006, 11:18 PM

And after that is probably the movie which will be directed by Fukuda *gasp*
as long as it isnt fukuda's whife :cry

darksage78

08-31-2006, 11:29 PM

*shivers at thought* Did they see what happened to Destiny? Man Stargazer is actually awesome cause there's no Fukuda taintedness... Plus to my knowledge there are no reused animation cels are there? Like that Cgue animation cell turned Freedom animation cell from awhile back. btw I've heard rumours that Fukuda based Kira and Lacus off him and his wife o__O"

They should hire the guy who's writing and directing Stargazer for the movie and third series if they go ahead with one. Fukuda's run out of ideas, Stargazer's stuff is actually pretty exciting for the two eps that have shown. Sven's kick ass moves when he destroyed those Bcues reminded me of Kira in the Desert against the Tiger of the Desert. Awesome combinations and skills own super guns like the Dragoon.

wherezmytofu

09-01-2006, 12:02 AM

staradderdragoon

09-01-2006, 12:20 AM

pst why wasted animation cells, just change the mech color ! BAM its a differnt army mech, noone will notice!

lol. yeah right, more like everyone will notice

wherezmytofu

09-01-2006, 12:23 AM

btw I've heard rumours that Fukuda based Kira and Lacus off him and his wife o__O"

wait wtf? so one loves the other but fukuda is in love with his lost whore lover, and the only "intement" thing they do is hug? does fukuda have kids?...im guessing no

darksage78

09-01-2006, 09:21 AM

lol I remember someone posting up several reused animation cells when GSD first ran. Nobody liked those...

dspr8_rugged

09-01-2006, 10:34 PM

It's not just the reused cells Fukuda's great at with his Gundam projects, but also the clip episodes as well. :P

On some other stuff, I've managed to get a full version of Hoshi no Tobira. Great song. :thumbs

darksage78

09-02-2006, 12:03 AM

Totally awesome song I hope they get her back for the GS movie. But of course chances are Fukuda will get TMR. Result was pretty good too from the special editions. Got the full version off Gendou?

dspr8_rugged

09-02-2006, 10:15 AM

*points up*

Yeah, I got it from Gendou (http://gendou.com/amusic).

You say that Nami Tamaki's "Result" is good? I'll give it a try. *downloads*

staradderdragoon

09-02-2006, 01:18 PM

wait, the special editions? special editions of what? GSD? if so how are they different. btw, is an mp3 version of Hoshi no Tobira out? i still have that WAV version that mindless put out. anyhow, i'm a huge fan of tamaki nami so i'll try to get that "result" song.

darksage78

09-02-2006, 04:07 PM

Just added scenes and condensed. Less flashbacks, random MS blowing up and the like. I think they've got the Distant Thunder ~ Distant Light coming out for one of the special editions from High and Mighty Color. The mp3 version is out, I got it off Gendou.

Btw Staradderdragoon, did you buy any Nami Tamaki cds in HK? I got the Make Progress album with Result and Result album ver last year ^__^ Good stuff.

staradderdragoon

09-02-2006, 06:32 PM

i downloaded the entire Make Progress, or at least most of it. but how much of the Special Edition is out? cause i think i might download it? is it gonna be special edition for the whole series?

darksage78

09-02-2006, 07:30 PM

Yea, I don't remember how many episodes each special edition covers but there are 2 out currently. Only watched the first one, the third one is coming out soon.

staradderdragoon

09-02-2006, 08:09 PM

aight. so they're like remakes of the episodes. i wonder how long they've been out cause it might take a while to torrent them

darksage78

09-02-2006, 09:23 PM

The first one was subbed awhile back just check www.baka-updates.com they're the one I use for majority of my torrent downloads. Not sure about the second one I never bothered to check lol

NU-KazeKage

09-12-2006, 09:21 PM

any one know when episode 3 is coming out ..i hope theres more fighting i want to make a stargazer amv this show is so awesome...cause fukada had no part in it right

dspr8_rugged

09-12-2006, 10:46 PM

I read somewhere that the airing of the final episode is delayed and will be shown at the last week of this month, which is later than the original schedule, for some reasons unknown. Forgot the source, though.

Either that, or we'll still get to see it this month or early October (fansub release).

Mindless

09-22-2006, 08:20 AM

The third episode of Stargazer should be out later today.

Portaljacker

09-22-2006, 09:35 AM

^I can't wait!

Mindless

09-22-2006, 02:16 PM

Ah, now I remember. It was pushed up untill next week; the 29th.

Brandt

09-22-2006, 02:20 PM

Dang... You had my hopes up a bit there. :( Ah well, I can wait a week. Next Friday sounds pretty good to me.

wherezmytofu

09-23-2006, 02:19 AM

im nto 100% this is a fansub of just the raw (the file says raw, but the desciption said fansub?) anyhow this is 3rd stage...im dling it irght now

http://anime.fansub.tv/episode.php/3908/Gundam%20Seed%20CE73%20Stargazer/3/

edit: just watched it, its a promo for stage 3..coem ont he 29th... :cry

O-ushi

09-30-2006, 05:46 AM

Stargazer Stage 3. Great episode, You can check the screen caps here:
http://bbs.dmzj.com/read-htm-tid-114878.html

The torrent link (RAW) : http://p.greedland.net/download.php?t=2006/09/29/1159537586.torrent

Mindless

09-30-2006, 09:57 AM

Final episode was pretty cool. And Sven turned out to be a pretty nice guy in the end (not surprising).

Jh1stgen

10-05-2006, 03:05 PM

Overal .. the 3 episode serie was awesome! But definitly rushed T.T

Now it is going to be a while til another Gundam serie/movie comes out >_>

dspr8_rugged

10-05-2006, 09:41 PM

Finally the raw is out. Just need to wait for the fansubbed version...

ssouske

10-06-2006, 06:19 AM

woooo... so the raw is out... can't wait for the subs to come out...

Prince Leon

10-09-2006, 05:03 PM

Stargazer:

The third and last episode of Stargazer is currently awaiting translation. It shouldn't take too long before it's out.

So the wait shouldn't be too long. Just remember, these guys have lives/uni/papers due like the rest of us.

Portaljacker

10-09-2006, 05:09 PM

^NO! All fansubers are lazy guys who are paid to sit around and watch anime![/fantasy]

dspr8_rugged

10-20-2006, 07:52 AM

Whoa, it's already the 20th of the month and still no fansubbed version of Stage-3? :huh

I guess this is another battle of patience...

O-ushi

10-23-2006, 05:12 AM

Perhaps there waiting for the Stargazer DVD release?

"Voiture Lumiere" is an incredible piece of technology, despite Stargazer being clearly designed for exploration, as with a lot of technology, they also had potential military applications. Just like how Genesis was originally developed to propel ships in to mars. Stargazer itself is a very basic mobile suit in comparison to Strike Noir and others, but when its makes use of its "Voiture Lumiere" damn did it put Destiny's WOL to shame. With the Voiture Lumiere it could proberly take out the most of the CE mobile suits out there.

As cruel as Phantom Pain was in this ep, at this point in the war EA were kinda desperate, there wasnt much left of the EA forces, and although there were hoping to capture the A.I Unit used in Stargazer in hopes of having unmanned mobile suits in the battlefield (something like the Mobile Dolls in GWing), the A.I Unit was far from complete. The EA took the exaggerated rumours about the A.I Unit literally I guess.

staradderdragoon

10-26-2006, 01:03 AM

ok, is it just me or like wtf happened to a fansub of phase-3? i already read the synopsis for it but still....this is gay...

dspr8_rugged

10-27-2006, 05:42 AM

You're not the only one... :notrust

Prince Leon

11-11-2006, 03:46 PM

Patience is a virtue. A golden one at that.

[Mendoi]_Gundam_SEED_CE73_Stargazer_-_STAGE_III_[C1B81648].avi (http://a.scarywater.net/mendoi/%5BMendoi%5D_Gundam_SEED_CE73_Stargazer_-_STAGE_III_%5BC1B81648%5D.avi.torrent)

Direct Download

[Mendoi]_Gundam_SEED_CE73_Stargazer_-_STAGE_III (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3UZ8YM39)

ssouske

11-11-2006, 08:46 PM

finally!!!:knk :woo

BattousaiMS

11-11-2006, 10:22 PM

Anyone seen episode 3 yet? I have to tell you I was very suprised by Stargazer (the MS) I didn't expect it to have any offensive capabilities but damn it had one of the nicest ones that spiral beams was great. I am not suprised of the ending though, I think they did a great job with it, we are left to make a conclusion by ourselves if they died or if they are simply unconcious.

staradderdragoon

11-12-2006, 01:45 AM

BattousaiMS

11-13-2006, 12:46 AM

just watched it. it's perfect. those beams that like whip noir....omg. i loved the ending, just makes you wonder...what happened? i heard that the OVA for GS, Astray pales in comparison to Stargazer. is that true?

Not really unless there are new OVA's out there. Astray Red you know Lowe and crue get out. While in Astray Blue you know that Gai is fighting against Ed the Ripper and well they always end up in a tie in one way or the other. They are just 2 good rival buddies in a way. But yeah Stargazer is pretty much up in the air. I hope they survive though, it would be nice to know that they can now do Deep Space Explorations.

dspr8_rugged

11-13-2006, 01:50 AM

Oh it's finally out. I've been waiting forever! :amuse

*downloads*

Edit: Okay, seen it.

First of all, is it just me or the video loses sound midway?

Anyway...

Obviously the highlight of the episode is seeing the title suit in action. Stargazer simply kicks mobile suit ass.

Storywise, nothing much. EAF attacks. Duel Buster gets destroyed (oh yeah, loved the part where it "does a Wing Zero"). Strike Noir gets half-destroyed and it seemed like there was no scratch on Stargazer after the cannon shot. Finally some stuff happens between Selene and Sven and we're left to ponder whether they lived or died. The end. WTF? :oh

Well, as a whole, the OVA was okay, though as I keep on saying before, it could have been better if episodes were a little longer and there are at least a few more episodes.

Batman

02-15-2007, 11:29 AM

Very nice first three episodes, though I'll admit that it still doesn't feel like the story has really begun yet. It felt like a long introduction into the world, but it was enjoyable all the same.

Also, if someone could remind me, Which grp was the naturals, and which were the coordinators. What I mean is, which grp had the insane abilities and which were ordinary humans. It's been some years since I watched Gundam seed. (Never saw destiny)