One Piece vs. Naruto

[Shiron]

I've seen that passed around pretty frequently. I'd have to go through a difficut unlearning process if that were fake. Try to find a website for Super Otaku magazine. One should exist for a magazine that supposedly has near 300 issues (or there should be at least a Wikipedia article on it or something) However, mysetriously, there's nothing.

Try to find an image of a cover of one of the issues of the magazine. For a magazine with near 300 issues, this should be easy. However, mysteriously, there aren't any.

Explain why a Japanese magazine would be called Super Otaku magazine, when that name would be offensive to the people who they target and thus make them less likely too buy it.

Explain how there are mysteriously no actual scans of the interview, and just that blob of text.

Sorry, it's just some stupid interview that some DBZ-tard made up somewhere down the line (to get people to believe that Goku can move at the speed of light, since there's no actual evidence of this in the magna. Judging by how many people actuallly believe that the interview is valid... they seem to have succeded).

Until someone provides a scan of the cover of that magazine, both the interview and Super Otaku Magazine itself don't exist.

Also, since this interview thing is causing us to go off-topic here, if you want to disucss it farther, than please go here (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?goto=lastpost&t=118642).

ah well if it is fake then it is... but still Toriyama did bring up those points at some point didn't he? I'm pretty confident that he did. I'm just not sure where.

[Suzumebachi]

I miss LordSpark....

[Amatsu]

I miss LordSpark....

I thought you hated him.

[Suzumebachi]

I thought you hated him.

I do. But I love pwning him/seeing him get pwned.

[Geg]

Just to update anyone who cares/elevate my post count by 1, I'm currently in the middle of the Arlong arc. Episode 37. =D

[Masaki]

Just to update anyone who cares/elevate my post count by 1, I'm currently in the middle of the Arlong arc. Episode 37. =D

He's almost at the awesome parts.

[Geg]

I find it funny that Arlong's name is written in Japanese exactly the same way as Auron from FFX's name.

アーロン

[Masaki]

What about the g?

[Tsuuga]

Hmm... they noticeably pronounce it "Arlong" (almost) in the sub.

[Captain Pimp]

Just to update anyone who cares/elevate my post count by 1, I'm currently in the middle of the Arlong arc. Episode 37. =D

Aw man...O MY LORD! You are 3 episodes away from seeing some ownage!!!:nuts

Actually 2...., but Episode 40 is my fav in the Arlong arc. :amuse

[Hitotsumami]

Just to update anyone who cares/elevate my post count by 1, I'm currently in the middle of the Arlong arc. Episode 37. =D

Hehehe, just keep going. ^_^

[Geg]

What about the g?
It's not written in Japanese.
http://www.thefilehut.com/userfiles/Cinder/030/sub_title.jpg

I'm gonna try to finish the rest of the arc today. It really gets better? Bellemere's death in 36 and Nami stabbing herself in 37 were intense enough.

[Masaki]

I'm gonna try to finish the rest of the arc today. It really gets better? Bellemere's death in 36 and Nami stabbing herself in 37 were intense enough.

Yep, those are two of the four (three, if you count the entire end all as one) best moments in the Arlong arc.

But the last one(s) are the best.

[Coheed]

I personally think that rubber animation is just rediculouse lol

[yokaiforte]

That's great. Because this isn't rubber animation. This is Japanese Animation, and originating in a manga form.

[Broleta]

Rubber animation? How does one animate a series via rubber?

[Captain Pimp]

Rubber animation? How does one animate a series via rubber?

Yea...how do you do that? :laugh

[Broleta]

Ya never know, rubber animation could be the thing of tomorrow! Remember - you seen it in the One Piece section first :yell

[Half Empty]

is anyone else pissed that when nami fights she sounds like ur local weather girl?

[Shiron]

is anyone else pissed that when nami fights she sounds like ur local weather girl?
No, it doesn't bother me that Nami says what she's going to do with her Clima Tact.

[Tsuuga]

Just to update anyone who cares/elevate my post count by 1, I'm currently in the middle of the Arlong arc. Episode 37. =D

Actually, the walk to Arlong Park is one of my favorite scenes.

[Gutsu]

Crap. Nothing beats Miura's style... :P

Eventhough I like Miura's art I prefer Hiroaki Samura of Blade of the Immortal and Takehiko Inoue of Vagabond/Real/Slam Dunk over Miura's art.

His still great though. :amuse

The mangaka dug his own grave by starting such a long standing manga like HxH. This is the same guy who got tired of writing Yu Yu Hakusho so he just gave it some half assed ending. Now he has an illness, yet his wife knows everything about the series and is the mangaka who did Sailor moon. She could finish it up for him but imagine how thrilled you'd be to do something like that. If you haven't started reading HxH then I, personally wouldn't recommend it since I think it will have a sloppy ending which will ruin the entire thing.

lol it would be great if the Sailor Moon manga-ka really continued HXH herserlf. Who wouldn't love to see the characters do transformation sequence and end up with them wearing those Sailor clothes that Sailor Moon wore. :nuts

[Segan]

Eventhough I like Miura's art I prefer Hiroaki Samura of Blade of the Immortal and Takehiko Inoue of Vagabond/Real/Slam Dunk over Miura's art.

His still great though. :amuse

Our ratings are quite reversed... ^^

[Amatsu]

It's not written in Japanese.
http://www.thefilehut.com/userfiles/Cinder/030/sub_title.jpg

I'm gonna try to finish the rest of the arc today. It really gets better? Bellemere's death in 36 and Nami stabbing herself in 37 were intense enough.

You've reached the point of no return. Just wait you'll be one of us soon enough. XD

[yokaiforte]

ew.... a spambot.

[Geg]

You've reached the point of no return. Just wait you'll be one of us soon enough. XD
Heh, well I'm definitely gonna keep watching it. This may insult you Aethos, but I think the Arlong arc was on par with all of Naruto's high points.

[Amatsu]

Heh, well I'm definitely gonna keep watching it. This may insult you Aethos, but I think the Arlong arc was on par with all of Naruto's high points.

Nah it doesn't insult me... It's just too bad Naruto didn't continue to HAVE high points. If it did I probably wouldn't have gotten fed up with it.

[Hitotsumami]

Heh, well I'm definitely gonna keep watching it. This may insult you Aethos, but I think the Arlong arc was on par with all of Naruto's high points.

Heh, it gets much better. ^_^

[Tsuuga]

The Arlong arc is just the tip of the iceburg! The Arabasta and current arcs are my favorite.

[Hitotsumami]

The Arlong arc is just the tip of the iceburg! The Arabasta and current arcs are my favorite.

Indeed! I recently re-watched it and it brought back so many awesome memories. Hahahah, I love that arc.

[King Bookah]

I'm the odd man out but, the Jaya arc is my favorite. It really felt like they were real pirates and it was just plain fun. Arabasta is a close second followed by enies lobby (although I think it's too long). But yeah, One Piece becomes good at the Arlong Arc.

[Pyroneko 28]

Not that anyone cares, but I started watching One Piece.

[Captain Pimp]

Not that anyone cares, but I started watching One Piece.

Good for you! :nod Welcome aboard, matey! Harharhar! :laugh

[Hitotsumami]

Not that anyone cares, but I started watching One Piece.

Awesomeness! Watch it all and be happy. ^_^

[PhearTehGrimace]

Not that anyone cares, but I started watching One Piece.
Your in for a treat, One Piece has to be one of the Funnest and Most Touching Show/Manga in years.

[Amatsu]

Your in for a treat, One Piece has to be one of the Funnest and Most Touching Show/Manga in years.

I just watched the Gash Bell episode introducing Sunbeam.

1. Sunbeam is like the Batman of the Gash Bell world

2. That episode touched me as much as any One Piece episode did.

[King Bookah]

"1. Sunbeam is like the Batman of the Gash Bell world" - Aethos

I may have to try Gash Bell again because I honestly hated it, but on that quote alone, u have convinced me give it another go. Hopefully I'll love the series.

[Amatsu]

"1. Sunbeam is like the Batman of the Gash Bell world" - Aethos

I may have to try Gash Bell again because I honestly hated it, but on that quote alone, u have convinced me give it another go. Hopefully I'll love the series.

Well I felt he was the batman of the Gash Bell series... if only because he is truly badass.

I mean Sunbeam is as badass as Wonrei and Wonrei is the NEJI of the Gash Bell series.

[Geg]

Grooooooovy!

If you liked that episode, you should watch 73. Very touching episode.

[Amatsu]

In many ways Gash Bell has the same emotional impact that One Piece has on me. I guess that's why it's one of my top ranked series.

[Tsuuga]

Hmmm... perhaps I should give it a try, then.

[Hitotsumami]

Hmmm... perhaps I should give it a try, then.

I also. I recently got into Hunter X Hunter, Bleach, Death Note, Fairy Tail, and D. Grey-Man, so another one won't hurt.

[Amatsu]

I never got into Death Note... It didn't really seem all that great as the hype seems to indicate. At least to me. I don't really get what people see in it.

[Segan]

I never got into Death Note... It didn't really seem all that great as the hype seems to indicate. At least to me. I don't really get what people see in it.

I think it's really great. But if you expected some flashy battles, then this is the wrong manga for you. It's more like a thriller.

[Amatsu]

I don't see how I could expect flashy battles out of something that has to do with a guy killing people with a notebook... It just didn't click with me... usually in the first few chapters I know if I like it or not. heck with One Piece I liked it around Zoro's first appearance, with Naruto I got interested around Kakashi's first appearance....

I don't know... Death Noe just isn't my thing I guess. I just never felt interested enough to keep reading.

[Captain Pimp]

I don't see how I could expect flashy battles out of something that has to do with a guy killing people with a notebook... It just didn't click with me... usually in the first few chapters I know if I like it or not. heck with One Piece I liked it around Zoro's first appearance, with Naruto I got interested around Kakashi's first appearance....

I don't know... Death Note just isn't my thing I guess. I just never felt interested enough to keep reading.

Meh...everything tends to be slow in the beginning, but when you read on a little further, it gets better. There's alot of suspense in it and like how everything revolves around Kira's plan to change the world. It's an interesting tale to read and L and Light are two of the most clever char. I've ever known :nod

[Masaki]

Heh, well I'm definitely gonna keep watching it. This may insult you Aethos, but I think the Arlong arc was on par with all of Naruto's high points.

That's what I thought at the time.

Then when you move on to later arcs, it's just pure and total win.

[Geg]

*after watching episode 46* Heh, they used that same piece by Chopin that FMA did in its last episode. Does One Piece use that often?

[Amatsu]

*after watching episode 46* Heh, they used that same piece by Chopin that FMA did in its last episode. Does One Piece use that often?

You know I never even noticed that.

But probably. I mean One Piece has a very nice score of background music.

Meh...everything tends to be slow in the beginning, but when you read on a little further, it gets better. There's alot of suspense in it and like how everything revolves around Kira's plan to change the world. It's an interesting tale to read and L and Light are two of the most clever char. I've ever known :nod

LOL well I also didn't take all that much of a liking to Raito either so... I guess that hurt the series in my eyes too though I admit L was interesting.

[yokaiforte]

A lot of anime generally run some sort of classical piece of music. One Piece has used Dvorak's New World Symphony and Chopin's Etude in E minor I believe the piece was.


As for Death Note, L is my newest favorite character of all time. Light is one huge bastard, and that's why I love this series so much.

[Half Empty]

just saw the bleach dub most of it is in tact
not a bad dub at all

[Geg]

Chopin's Etude in E minor
Yeah, that was the one in 46.

[Amatsu]

One Piece also uses a lot of jazz numbers as well such as some of the battle music and Sanji's theme.

[Pasty]

just saw the bleach dub most of it is in tact
not a bad dub at all

It has the original full OP and ED's, the voices are extremely good, they keep japenese words that wouldn't be necessary to change, and there's little to no edits. It's a damn near perfect dub, at the least the best one I've seen in a while.

[Amatsu]

Well Bleach was on Adult Swim... I mean how much more uncut can it be?

[Hitotsumami]

Exactly. So far, in dub quality:

Bleach>>>Naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One Piece

[Amatsu]

Exactly. So far, in dub quality:

Bleach>>>Naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One Piece

Except Naruto's dub isn't too far from Bleach at all. Heck add in the blood they edited out and it'd be right on par with Bleach's dub.

[Molekage]

is there a place to check out the dub bleach somewhere? i'm really curious what they all sound like :)

[Amatsu]

is there a place to check out the dub bleach somewhere? i'm really curious what they all sound like :)

You can watch it here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz4sUw_gwRk

It's split into three parts so you'll need to use the author's profile to see all three parts.

[Molekage]

thanks! ^_^

i checked it out... and thats a pretty good dub. still not as good as the original... if only OP got that stellar treatment... :(

[Hitotsumami]

Indeed. If OP would have gotten the same treatment as either Bleach or Naruto, I would be much more happier.

[Amatsu]

Yeah it's pretty much perfect... It's on par with most ADV dubs if anything.

I feel the only people who will bash the dub are those who don't like the fact it WAS dubbed into english. Since they'd prefer it to stay Japanese.

If only One Piece had gotten licensed by Viz... then the entire shounen trinity would have had great dubs.

[Hitotsumami]

Yeah it's pretty much perfect... It's on par with most ADV dubs if anything.

I feel the only people who will bash the dub are those who don't like the fact it WAS dubbed into english. Since they'd prefer it to stay Japanese.

If only One Piece had gotten licensed by Viz... then the entire shounen trinity would have had great dubs.

That would be a dream come true.

[Geg]

Still, One Piece would probably still air on Toonami and be edited to about the extent that Naruto is. Which really isn't that much, and miles better than what 4Kids did.

[Hitotsumami]

Still, One Piece would probably still air on Toonami and be edited to about the extent that Naruto is. Which really isn't that much, and miles better than what 4Kids did.

Indeed it is. I would much perfer OP to be dubbed like Naruto. It would be fine with me. Stupid 4Kids.

[Pasty]

Bleh, the hardest thing for me to cope with in a dub is the voices. I have a hard time with some of the Naruto voices. Of course, they're like a gift from god compared to OP's va's

[Molekage]

yeah, i have to say ichigo's voice sounds like it would get really annoying really fast.

but OP voices.... :mad

[Xell]

Yeah it's pretty much perfect... It's on par with most ADV dubs if anything.

I feel the only people who will bash the dub are those who don't like the fact it WAS dubbed into english. Since they'd prefer it to stay Japanese.

If only One Piece had gotten licensed by Viz... then the entire shounen trinity would have had great dubs.

That would be awesome. But you'd still get the occasional faggot saying "It sucks, I prefer 4kids".

[keyboad]

If only One Piece had gotten licensed by Viz... then the entire shounen trinity would have had great dubs.



i hope no one pointed this out yet but...
i'm not sure if this is true but i think i read some where that 4Kids was a product of Viz media i have to check again (probibly wont have time but...)

[Paul the SK]

Why dose there have to be such a rivalry between Naruto and One Piece?

First of all, I'm going to say that I like both series equally. Both have great qualities and minor flaws.

In defence of Naruto fans:
I've noticed a large number of One Piece fanboys/girls running around on various forums (not just Narutofan) saying that Naruto sucks and One Piece is so much better. I know its a matter of opinion but it leads to flame wars and a fanbase rivalry.

I'm not saying its the fault of One Piece fans. I have seen Naruto fans that are just as bad, but its the agressive One Piece fans that I have been seeing the most. I know the fanbase has been through alot; with the 4Kids dub and all, but thats no excuse to attack the Naruto fanbase.

In defence of One Piece fans:
Alot of the Naruto fans seem to be ignorant of other anime/manga series and think that Naruto is the best thing out there without even watching/reading other great series such as One Piece or Bleach. Naruto fans tend to be more judgemental and may look over another series just beacuse how it looks.

I know this because I used to be that way. But I know now that there are alot of good series out there. One Piece in my opinion is JUST AS GOOD as Naruto.

Conclusion:
I am sick of all the rivalry. If you don't like one series thats fine, just don't go around saying "OMG Naruto sux!" or "lol One Piece is gay!". People need to stop looking for the bad things in an anime and start looking for the good things. Don't be so biased.

Also, the reason I posted this in the One Piece section is because I know all of you have seen most of Naruto and One Piece. Where as alot of people in the Naruto section just stick to... Naruto. :/

[aznwolfstein]

There's rivalry because people have opinions, and they differ...
I'm not a big peruser of forums but I really don't see that many 'One Piece sucks' or 'Naruto sucks' threads. At least here, unless it's in battledome, each forum dedicated to each manga is mostly just praise for their respective mangas.

[Masaki]

Well, it's hard for me to describe.

- It's hard not to. It's a discussion board, and I need something to discuss.

- OP was always on the short end of the stick, but many who read both prefer it anyway.

- A lot of Narutards can get on one's nerves if they keep going around saying Naruto's the greatest. If they see something better, it'll open their eyes a bit.

[Suzumebachi]

Well, Naruto fans really do think they've found the greatest anime ever and won't listen to anyone else when they recommend some anime they think is better, like One Piece.

When that happens, there is a chain reaction in the Naruto fans: "lol 1peice!?!/! dat show iz dum!! dey use sper sokars?!> lame!"

And that's what happens.

EDIT: And also, there's LordSpark.:notrust

[Amatsu]

Well, Naruto fans really do think they've found the greatest anime ever and won't listen to anyone else when they recommend some anime they think is better, like One Piece.

When that happens, there is a chain reaction in the Naruto fans: "lol 1peice!?!/! dat show iz dum!! dey use sper sokars?!> lame!"

And that's what happens.

EDIT: And also, there's LordSpark.:notrust

I agree and I also agree with Masaki as well.

[Xell]

Well, it's because the majority of people who like One Piece have actually seen the Naruto sub and thought, "One Piece is better". Yet the people who watch Naruto have only seen Naruto and not One Piece at all so they just say stuff like, "LOL ONE PIECE IS SHIT, GAARA CUD OWN EM ALL".. Soo.. Just blame the Narutards who have not even bothered with One Piece..

[Paul the SK]

Well, it's because the majority of people who like One Piece have actually seen the Naruto sub and thought, "One Piece is better". Yet the people who watch Naruto have only seen Naruto and not One Piece at all so they just say stuff like, "LOL ONE PIECE IS SHIT, GAARA CUD OWN EM ALL".. Soo.. Just blame the Narutards who have not even bothered with One Piece..
You make a good point but its not all the Narutards fault. I have been to other One Piece forums and seen people say that Naruto is thier favorite anime and get flamed for it by One Piece-tards. Since this was on a One Piece themed forum, I'm sure these Naruto fans are avid One Piece fans also.

[Masaki]

You make a good point but its not all the Narutards fault. I have been to other One Piece forums and seen people say that Naruto is thier favorite anime and get flamed for it by One Piece-tards. Since this was on a One Piece themed forum, I'm sure these Naruto fans are avid One Piece fans also.

If they say plain and simple that they find Naruto to be better, and have given One Piece a good enough chance, we're alright with that. It's the bashers that get us.

[Hokage Naruto]

Merged another One Piece vs. Naruto thread.

Changing the title of this thread.

[FFz]

every single chapter of one piece is amazing. i can't say the same thing about naruto. To me it's a no contest.

[Tsuuga]

You make a good point but its not all the Narutards fault. I have been to other One Piece forums and seen people say that Naruto is thier favorite anime and get flamed for it by One Piece-tards. Since this was on a One Piece themed forum, I'm sure these Naruto fans are avid One Piece fans also.

SwordKirby is right. Some people on Kaizoku-Fansubs and Arlong Park forums are kind of elitist bastards.

I hate illiterate Narutards a lot more, though.

[Amatsu]

I don't really go to K-F but I know there are a lot of n00bs on there... but on AF?

Meh maybe One Piece fans feel the need to be more elitist... I mean look at the crap most other fandoms put us through. The Naruto fandom being the main one.

[Even]

I've seen up to episode 204 of OP (downloaded ep. 205 yesterday, gonna watch it when I get home:grin) but I still feel that Naruto is better. I'm not saying that OP is bad though (then why would I bother watching over 200 eps?) but I tend to like Naruto better. I guess it's all just a matter of taste:grin

[Geg]

One thing I like better about Naruto that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the actual series is that the Naruto fansubs are just better. There are several Kaizoku fansubs translations that just don't make any sense. Having Luffy cuss all the time is extremely out of character for him. And I fucking hate how Kaizoku will choose random words not to translate. Especially Yoshi, which they then misspell as "Yosh". I just have to look away from the screen every time I see that. Call it OCD or something. If I ever get to a point where they stop translating other common words like "nani" or whatever, I'm just gonna stop watching One Piece altogether.

[escamoh]

Doesn't Yosh mean Alright?

[Geg]

Pretty much. Yoshi is basically just an exclamation meaning "all right!", "okay!" etc. It's just annoying that not only do they not bother translating it, which, as translators, they're supposed to be doing, but they misspell it as well.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

That and 'Nakama' annoy me with KF. Just say 'Comrade' dammit.

Doesnt' take away from One Piece's awesomeness however.

[Hitotsumami]

I actually like the term Nakama.

[Geg]

Agreed, Nakama's annoying too. Unless it's the name of an attack or something, translate the freaking word.

And I know it doesn't effect how good the show is, but it's just a pain to deal with.

edit: Baka, too. Translate baka you stupid japanophiles.

[LordSpark]

EDIT: And also, there's LordSpark.
You should be getting on your knees and thanking me since without my discourse, this pathetic fanboy thread would have never gotten as much attention. No one like to read onesided love fests on why such and such is the greatest.

I also like the remarks from some people who say they are annoyed by a Naruto fan who beleives Naruto is the best. Yet, they fail to realize that that works for them as well. Do they somehow think it's less annoying when a OP fan claims;

OP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All other anime?

And what exactly is wrong with someone beleiving Naruto is the greatest? It's their opinion and their right to have it. Why would this upset anyone? It's no different from a OP fan beleiving OP to be the greatest.

[Masaki]

You should be getting on your knees and thanking me since without my discourse, this pathetic fanboy thread would have never gotten as much attention. No one like to read onesided love fests on why such and such is the greatest.

I also like the remarks from some people who say they are annoyed by a Naruto fan who beleives Naruto is the best. Yet, they fail to realize that that works for them as well. Do they somehow think it's less annoying when a OP fan claims;

OP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All other anime?

And what exactly is wrong with someone beleiving Naruto is the greatest? It's their opinion and their right to have it. Why would this upset anyone? It's no different from a OP fan beleiving OP to be the greatest.

You see, people like this:

I've seen up to episode 204 of OP (downloaded ep. 205 yesterday, gonna watch it when I get home:grin) but I still feel that Naruto is better. I'm not saying that OP is bad though (then why would I bother watching over 200 eps?) but I tend to like Naruto better. I guess it's all just a matter of taste:grin

I'm alright with.

However, people who just bash OP because of the dub, because they haven't seen it, or "ninjas are better than pirates" are a different story.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Exactly. Intelligent, thought out opinions FTW.

[Hitotsumami]

Hahahha! I like it when Lord Spark posts. It makes this thread even more interesting.

I'll continue to sit back and watch. ^_^

[Tsuuga]

You see, people like this:



I'm alright with.

However, people who just bash OP because of the dub, because they haven't seen it, or "ninjas are better than pirates" are a different story.

Quiet, you. Reasonable discourse from One Piece fans doesn't exist in LordSpark's world.

[Hitotsumami]

One thing I like better about Naruto that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the actual series is that the Naruto fansubs are just better. There are several Kaizoku fansubs translations that just don't make any sense. Having Luffy cuss all the time is extremely out of character for him. And I fucking hate how Kaizoku will choose random words not to translate. Especially Yoshi, which they then misspell as "Yosh". I just have to look away from the screen every time I see that. Call it OCD or something. If I ever get to a point where they stop translating other common words like "nani" or whatever, I'm just gonna stop watching One Piece altogether.


I wouldn't stop watching an entire series just because a few common words almost everyone knows isn't translated. ^_^

[Paul the SK]

Okay, so my thread was meged into this one? Meh, fair enough. Plus the new title for the thread is more friendly atleast.

I love Naruto and One Piece (and Bleach too) equally. My reason for posting was to say that I think its really sad how there is a rivalry between the fanbases of such great series. Yet over looking those elitests, I see that there are also alot of people who agree with me. Its reassuring.

In the mean time, I will be playing Battle Stadium DON (the Naruto vs One Piece vs Dragonball fighting game). :P

[Geg]

I wouldn't stop watching an entire series just because a few common words almost everyone knows isn't translated. ^_^
I know, I just don't know if I could stand the crappy subtitles after that. If I could find raws, I'd watch them.

[Tsuuga]

I read somewhere that One Piece pretty much redefined "nakama" in Japan, that may be bullshit. And because it's usually a pretty vague word with multiple definitions, I guess it's easier than to translate it.

[Hitotsumami]

I know, I just don't know if I could stand the crappy subtitles after that. If I could find raws, I'd watch them.


You understand japanese? Awesomeness. ^_^

[Geg]

Not completely.

[Amatsu]

I've watched a ton of raw's and practically most of the time you can tell what they're saying and what's going on.

[Amatsu]

One thing I like better about Naruto that has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the actual series is that the Naruto fansubs are just better. There are several Kaizoku fansubs translations that just don't make any sense. Having Luffy cuss all the time is extremely out of character for him. And I fucking hate how Kaizoku will choose random words not to translate. Especially Yoshi, which they then misspell as "Yosh". I just have to look away from the screen every time I see that. Call it OCD or something. If I ever get to a point where they stop translating other common words like "nani" or whatever, I'm just gonna stop watching One Piece altogether.

Oh and speaking of which... why don't you get pissed then when DB doesn't translate Dattabayo?

I mean seriously if you know what the word means I see no problem with skipping it. It doesn't ruin the enjoyment for me at all.

[Geg]

Dattebayo doesn't even mean anything. There's nothing to translate.

[Masaki]

Dattebayo doesn't even mean anything. There's nothing to translate.

Agreed. With the exception of when you clearly hear Naruto say "Nice catch, dattebayo", they haven't even put it into the subs.

[Suzumebachi]

You should be getting on your knees and thanking me since without my discourse, this pathetic fanboy thread would have never gotten as much attention. No one like to read onesided love fests on why such and such is the greatest.

I also like the remarks from some people who say they are annoyed by a Naruto fan who beleives Naruto is the best. Yet, they fail to realize that that works for them as well. Do they somehow think it's less annoying when a OP fan claims;

OP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All other anime?

And what exactly is wrong with someone beleiving Naruto is the greatest? It's their opinion and their right to have it. Why would this upset anyone? It's no different from a OP fan beleiving OP to be the greatest.

Laughing out loud at LordSpark and his smug, narrow-minded self.

I don't think a single person in the One Piece section ever said that OP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All other anime.

In fact, I think there were like three different topics on anime we like more/think are better than One Piece.

LOL at your projection defense mechanism.

And I don't see a problem with KF leaving some words in japanese. Nakama means comrade. You know that, right? So what's the problem?

"Nakama!? RARGH! New words scary! *OP fan smashes computer moniter*"

[Geg]

One Piece isn't set in Japan or a fictional land based on Japan. Why would they suddenly speak a random Japanese word in the middle of an otherwise English sentence?

[Pyroneko 28]

One Piece isn't set in Japan or a fictional land based on Japan. Why would they suddenly speak a random Japanese word in the middle of an otherwise English sentence? Why is there Spanish in Bleach? There's not really a reason, there just is.

[Suzumebachi]

One Piece isn't set in Japan or a fictional land based on Japan. Why would they suddenly speak a random Japanese word in the middle of an otherwise English sentence?

Why do they randomly speak spanish and english and french and italian and others during One Piece?

And see, the thing is they aren't speaking an english sentence. They are speaking japanese for those of us who listen to the audio instead of only reading the subs.

[Jotun]

Why do they randomly speak spanish and english and french and italian and others during One Piece?

And see, the thing is they aren't speaking an english sentence. They are speaking japanese for those of us who listen to the audio instead of only reading the subs.

I actually think its cool, it helps you learn some words along the way. Nakama sounds better anyways

[Geg]

It's still just stupid. Unless it's meant to be in a different language, like Sanji's attacks, then translate it. Don't pick random words to not translate just because it "sounds cool".

[Hitotsumami]

I wouldn't call Nakama a random word. It's one of the most important theme's of the story.

Now, things like Baka, I don't care if they change it or not. Doesn't really matter. Most people know what it means anyway.

[Masaki]

The only time I didn't mind the nontranslation of baka was when Miss Merrychristmas studdered.

[Broleta]

K-F already explained why they don't translate nakama. It's too much of a strong word that doesn't have an accurate enough translation into English.
Our translation note explaining the term was in Episode 38.

Basically, we were not happy with any english translation of "nakama".

"Friend" is far too weak a word, as Luffy refers to Coby as his "friend" but entirely distinct from his "nakama". "Crewmate" is also too weak.

"Comrade" is an appropriate translation in many cases, but not for One Piece. And stretching it a little more, "mate" may also fit. But we found their use to be awkward in sentences, giving misleading meanings. And also, our subs are geared toward American English, for better or for worse.

It's not that English lacks the same concept. Most people who have competed at a serious level in sports, pledged a fraternity, or joined the Marines probably have a very good idea of what it means. Your frat brother is not simply your "friend"; he is much more. Similarly, when you operate in teams you must trust the other members while holding yourself accountable to them.

So, when it came down to what Luffy should yell after defeating Arlong, we went with we thought sounded best...
"Nami, you are my nakama!"

And now you know the reason behind the One Piece song "Family".

[Hitotsumami]

Heheheh, I agree with K-F. ^_^

[Geg]

"Nami, you are my nakama!" sounded just as bad as every other time they've used "nakama" instead of translating it.

[Broleta]

To me it sounded much, much better than say "NAMI YOU ARE MY FRIEND" which wasn't fitting of the situation. Comrade etc wouldn't have worked, either. I actually prefer them leaving nakama untranslated since it's one of the show's main themes, which is making nakama, not friends, not comrades, etc etc.

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Comrade fits perfectly. Yes Friend doesn't really work, but Comrade does. Its not like Nakama is the holy term above all others that is the foundation for 50 Japanese religions.

They say it all the time in Naruto and Bleach, and I don't hear people complaining about Dattebayo translating it then?

[Broleta]

Comrade fits perfectly. Yes Friend doesn't really work, but Comrade does. Its not like Nakama is the holy term above all others that is the foundation for 50 Japanese religions.

They say it all the time in Naruto and Bleach, and I don't hear people complaining about Dattebayo translating it then?
I don't think comrade fits alot of the time. As for Naruto and Bleach, nakama isn't really key to the story in those series' or at least as much as it is in One Piece.

[Geg]

Just because a word is used a lot doesn't mean it has to go untranslated.

And I know I've mentioned this before, but I'm just really getting tired of them having characters like Luffy and Usopp uncharacteristically cuss so much. Luffy saying "I'm gonna kick your ass" all the freaking time is just retarded.

[Hitotsumami]

Yeah. Doesn't Luffy most of the time say "I'm going to send you flying!!"

[Geg]

Eh, in Kaizoku fansubs he always says "kick your ass/kick his ass/kick their asses". What he actually says is "buttobasu" (or something similar, I can't remember the exact spelling) which could just as easily mean "beat you up" or "destroy you". Translating it as Luffy saying "kick your ass", especially when he's smiling and cheerful when he says it, is just stupid and out of character.

In fact, overtranslating to make characters cuss more often seems to be a running theme in Kaizoku's subs, not just with Luffy. I remember some of the DBZ subs back in the 90s doing this, which led to downright comical results (ie Vegeta saying "candy-assed faggot").

[Hitotsumami]

I like the translation both ways.

When Luffy talks to Vivi about Crocodile, it should be translated into "I'll send him flying" since he's basically smiling.

If Luffy's in the middle of a sersious fight "I'm going to kick your ass," would work.

This is my opinion.

[d.Lughie]

geg.. I think you're just trying to be negative on OP.. just trying to find its flaws.. by pointing out the translations that you don't like..

[Toffeeman]

For the people who are interested in HunterxHunter:

Watch the anime first (there are 62 episodes of it), then watch the 3 sets of OVA's (Genei Ryodan, Greed Island, and G.I. Final arcs) and then read the manga... where it picks up with the Chimera Ant arc.

It's a fantastic series, trust me.

[Geg]

geg.. I think you're just trying to be negative on OP.. just trying to find its flaws.. by pointing out the translations that you don't like..
I'm not trying to point out flaws in One Piece; I like One Piece. I'm just pointing out that the fansubs suck.

[escamoh]

Geg you never told me what you thought of OP?

[Hitotsumami]

He likes OP. He's posted in other threads.

He's not like a "LordSpark".

[Geg]

I'm just starting the Drum Island arc right now.

One more gripe: The name is spelled "Alabasta" in the show. Yet they use "Arabasta" for their subs. Surely they can see what they're subbing, right?

[Usopp]

Kaizoku Fansubs sucks? Whoa man, that's a little rough, they've done a really good job on OP, and it's only natural to find people that don't like the way the subbers do it, I think it's fine. I'm actually really glad they did the Nakama switch, there is no english word for it so it's good. I like the word baka, so, why not use it.

Not translating techniques gives a more authentic One Piece experience I think, (though they do translate all the techniques, usually in a faint font with brackets around it at the opposite part of the screen, unless it's an english word). I mean, I just wouldn't want them to have the words "Rubber Rubber Pistol" or "Neck Kick" for attacks in plain white font at the bottom of the screen.

K-F are my favourite fansubbers, if you don't like them say so, but don't use such a strong word on people that work to bring you something to enjoy for free.

[Masaki]

I'm just starting the Drum Island arc right now.

One more gripe: The name is spelled "Alabasta" in the show. Yet they use "Arabasta" for their subs. Surely they can see what they're subbing, right?

Actually, Alabasta was a mispelling on the part of the Anime team. They correct it later on.

[Tsuuga]

Never go by the Engrish the anime shows. We've gotten Frnkys, Erankys, and Icebargs before that contradict the manga as well as continuity.

[escamoh]

He likes OP. He's posted in other threads.

He's not like a "LordSpark".
Yeah I know I remember him telling me that he was gonna start watching OP a while back.

I was just curious wether he liked it or not.

[Hitotsumami]

I'm actually really glad they did the Nakama switch, there is no english word for it so it's good.

There is a translation for Nakama. It's "Friend" "Comrade" "Crewmate".

[Geg]

Actually, Alabasta was a mispelling on the part of the Anime team. They correct it later on.
That just means they're inconsistent, then.

Not translating techniques gives a more authentic One Piece experience I think, (though they do translate all the techniques, usually in a faint font with brackets around it at the opposite part of the screen, unless it's an english word). I mean, I just wouldn't want them to have the words "Rubber Rubber Pistol" or "Neck Kick" for attacks in plain white font at the bottom of the screen.
The attack names don't really bother me as much. Sanji's different anyway, since most of his are partly French. It's just the other random words (Nakama, baka, ossan, etc) that are annoying.

[Usopp]

There is a translation for Nakama. It's "Friend" "Comrade" "Crewmate".

Words for "Friend" in japanese:

kaonajimi, kouyuu, chijin, yuujin, tomodachi, or guu

Words for "Comrade" in japanese:

tomogara, ryouyuu, doushi, or douhai

Words for "Crewmate" in japanese:

(couldn't find one...........)

What I mean is that there is no DIRECT translation of the word Nakama into english, only words "like" it.

Such an English word that represents the meaning of Nakama fully doesn't exist ^_^

[Hitotsumami]

Words that translate from Nakama:

group, circle of friends, partner, associate

Source: http://www.freedict.com/onldict/onldict.php

[Geg]

Then it just would have been easier to change your translation of it depending on the context. That's what I do when I watch One Piece. "Friend" when used casually, "Companion" or "Comrade" when used seriously.

[Hitotsumami]

It doesn't matter much too me. It isn't like it kills the entire series.

[Tsuuga]

Yeah, I don't really understand why those things bother you, Geg. 0_o

[Geg]

Wikipedia and the internet has stolen my soul. That's why.

[Broleta]

Eh, in Kaizoku fansubs he always says "kick your ass/kick his ass/kick their asses". What he actually says is "buttobasu" (or something similar, I can't remember the exact spelling) which could just as easily mean "beat you up" or "destroy you". Translating it as Luffy saying "kick your ass", especially when he's smiling and cheerful when he says it, is just stupid and out of character.
Why would Luffy say he's going to destory someone? This isn't DBZ. "Beat you up" doesn't sound badass enough for someone like Luffy. "Kick your ass" is a perfect translation.

[Xell]

I'm not trying to point out flaws in One Piece; I like One Piece. I'm just pointing out that the fansubs suck.

I don't see how Luffy smiling and saying "I'm going to kick your ass" is different from saying "I'm going to destroy you", they both mean the same kind of thing really..

And the fansubs do not suck.. On Ani-DB, K-F have a rating of 9.67, Gerusama has a rating of 8.14, and ADC-Elites have a rating of 7.36, which is good considering they're speed subbers like DB are.

[Broleta]

K-F are probably one of the best fansub groups ever, they're 2nd in the top 10 groups list on AniDB, with the first being a DVD ripping group, KickAssAnime.

1. 8.76 KickAssAnime
2. 8.70 Kaizoku-Fansubs
3. 8.58 Eclipse Productions
4. 8.54 Solar Fansubs
5. 8.52 The Triad
6. 8.49 Zhentarim DivX
7. 8.48 AnimeOne
8. 8.47 Anime-Kraze
9. 8.47 Anime HQ
10. 8.47 Kyuuketsuki

[d.Lughie]

I didn't know there were ratings for subbers.. cool

congrats to KF then.. for being in the 2nd spot..

[Geg]

Why would Luffy say he's going to destory someone? This isn't DBZ. "Beat you up" doesn't sound badass enough for someone like Luffy. "Kick your ass" is a perfect translation.
That's just the thing. Luffy is not badass. He's just an idiot.

I really don't see how anyone could consider KF anywhere near the best fansubbers anywhere with their translations.

[Broleta]

That's just the thing. Luffy is not badass. He's just an idiot.
I agree with you in terms of him being an idiot, one of the stupidest characters ever infact, but saying he's not badass? :laugh

I really don't see how anyone could consider KF anywhere near the best fansubbers anywhere with their translations.
That's your opinion, the majority disagrees with you.

[escamoh]

Luffy isn't badass.

Zoro is badass. But certainly not Luffy.

Except when he goes Gear2, that's very badass.

[Broleta]

Luffy isn't badass.

Zoro is badass. But certainly not Luffy.

Except when he goes Gear2, that's very badass.
Gear 2 was what I was reffering to (and alot of other scenes - vs Croc and Bellamy for example) but I didn't want to bring it up since Geg isn't at that point in the series.

[Hitotsumami]

Yeah. Geg isn't even through with Arabasta, so I won't say anything yet.

Luffy is badass.

[King Bookah]

I somewhat agree with Geg. I like Luffy, but when I think of badass, Luffy doesn't kind to mind. I tend to think Ace, Lucci, Sanji, Zoro, or Aokiji. Still, Luffy is a a very likeable character, he has a few badass moments, but overall he's not badass.

[Hitotsumami]

I think he has his moments. And when he does have those few moments, they're, in my opinion, much cooler than the other characters. ^_^

[Suzumebachi]

I somewhat agree with Geg. I like Luffy, but when I think of badass, Luffy doesn't kind to mind. I tend to think Ace, Lucci, Sanji, Zoro, or Aokiji. Still, Luffy is a a very likeable character, he has a few badass moments, but overall he's not badass.

Sanji? He's goofier than Luffy. And Lucci? Not with the pidgeon that drinks whisky.

[Masaki]

That just means they're inconsistent, then.


I was refering to the team that made the anime. They originally mispelled Alabasta.

[Geg]

I was referring to the anime too.

So was it spelled "Arabasta" in the manga then?

...Alabasta's still a better name. :/

[Masaki]

...You haven't seen it yet, have you? When you do, you'll see that Arabasta is a better name.

[The Pirate King]

I like Naruto Better

[Toffeeman]

Luffy is not badass. He's just an idiot.
Take that back.

[Geg]

...You haven't seen it yet, have you? When you do, you'll see that Arabasta is a better name.
Yeah, I know Alabasta's a big desert.

[Hitotsumami]

I like Naruto Better

Heh, haven't seen a post like this in a while.

[Amatsu]

Even if Luffy is an idiot at least h e doesn't play second fiddle to Zoro on the popularity polls the way Naruto does to Sasuke. That kinda shows that a character doesn't need to be badass to be liked.

[Geg]

*basically a follow up post I made about episode 46 a while back*

Holy crap, what's that choir song that plays in episode 86 during the big Hiluluk/Hiruluk scene? It sounds really familiar. I remember yokaiforte said that another song used in One Piece was Dvorak's New World Symphony. Is that this one?

edit: Ah, I just researched it and the New World Symphony was used in 126. Still, the song in 86 sounds very familiar.

[Masaki]

I like Naruto Better

You are a shame to the last 5 letters of your username.

[Hitotsumami]

You are a shame to the last 5 letters of your username.

Heh, wow, I just realized how close your username is too his.

I'm stil a little amazed people are still talking about which is better in this thread.

[Amatsu]

Yeah we should be talking about how Luffy's gonna go Super Saiyan 4 and charge his laser. XD

[seshun]

well it looks like im really late to this conversation. ummmm im on the current of both and they are both really good. for some weird reason i hate talking about flaws in animes i enjoy so all im going to say that one piece is more vast and open than naruto but i think naruto is more to the point. one piece hasnt really made me feel sad in any episode 1-276. they were sad moments but it wasnt sad in comparison to narutos moments because in narutos sad moments i can relate to those things in real life situations. the thing one piece has over naruto is the large variety of characters, places, and things to do. they are both really equal but im just going to have to go with naruto. everyone has thier opinions.

[Tsuuga]

Now that I think about it, the Zabuza arc was the only one to make me really feel sad. One Piece flashbacks (especially Sanji's, Nami's, Chopper's, and now Robin's) have been infinitely sadder than the rest of Naruto's, in my opinion.

[Hitotsumami]

Agreed. The Zabuza arc was the only sad one for me. Nearly every One Piece flashback was sad.

[taboo]

Luffy pretty much owns Naruto.

[Masaki]

Luffy pretty much owns Naruto.

Yep, he owns the entire show.

[Hitotsumami]

Yep. I gotta agree. Luffy's awesomeness.

[Geg]

On the sad part, One Piece does have overall more sad/touching moments than Naruto does. However, I actually started getting teary-eyed the first time I watched Naruto episode 19. I have yet to get teary-eyed watching One Piece.

[Hitotsumami]

On the sad part, One Piece does have overall more sad/touching moments than Naruto does. However, I actually started getting teary-eyed the first time I watched Naruto episode 19. I have yet to get teary-eyed watching One Piece.

You also haven't reached Robin's past yet. It'll get ya.

But yeah, the only real moment I felt sad in Naruto was when Zabuza died beside Haku.

[crazymtf]

Holy shit it's still going! :P ONE PIECE OWNZ NARUTO! :)

[Hitotsumami]

Holy shit it's still going! :P ONE PIECE OWNZ NARUTO! :)

Ah, it's you! Haven't seen you in a while. ^_^

And yeah, this thread still going.

[crazymtf]

Jea been a bit busy but i still all for one piece, ONE PIECE FOR LIFE< JEAZ

[Tsuuga]

On the sad part, One Piece does have overall more sad/touching moments than Naruto does. However, I actually started getting teary-eyed the first time I watched Naruto episode 19. I have yet to get teary-eyed watching One Piece.

The only one I started getting teary-eyed on was Robin's flashback recently. I thought Nami and Chopper's were emotionally affecting (Nami's was more shocking than sorrowful) but young Robin was just...

Also, a certain argument in the 230s made me sweat.

[Geg]

Literally sweat?

[Tsuuga]

Yes. Literally. I mean, it was summer, but it was a pretty emotionally charged argument, and I didn't know who was more right.

[Amatsu]

well it looks like im really late to this conversation. ummmm im on the current of both and they are both really good. for some weird reason i hate talking about flaws in animes i enjoy so all im going to say that one piece is more vast and open than naruto but i think naruto is more to the point. one piece hasnt really made me feel sad in any episode 1-276. they were sad moments but it wasnt sad in comparison to narutos moments because in narutos sad moments i can relate to those things in real life situations. the thing one piece has over naruto is the large variety of characters, places, and things to do. they are both really equal but im just going to have to go with naruto. everyone has thier opinions.

I don't see how anyone can relate to situations that go on n fictional series in real life. I don't really relate with the characters of either series but I feel more for the One Piece characters because it seems their pasts and their hardships are more significant than continuous Mediocre Shinji-like angst.

[Tsuuga]

Well, you can. Being on various sports teams can really make me relate to the members of the Mugiwara Crew, etc.

And some people can empathize with Rock Lee's talentlessness and envy for naturally-gifted peers.

Empathy is a really strong way of making likable, identifiable characters.

[Amatsu]

Meh I guess I don't really feel empathy then.

I just feel the One Piece characters angst has a lot more depth and purpose than any Naruto character's angst but that's just my opinion. After all if a person would hate Sasuke instead of sympathise with him despite his past doesn't that say a lot about how empathetic some Naruto characters are?

As far as Rock Lee goes I never really felt like I was in his shoes so I never found a reason to sympathise with him.

[Captain Pimp]

meh..I only felt sad when Choji and Neji fought against the Sound Five. If they had died, I would truly praise them much more for their actions...

[Xell]

I liek Naruto muc moar! y? cuz iv neva seen 1piece, lolol! NARUTO > LUFFT

Naruto cud jus resangan Luffy, and kil im! HAWHAW







>_> Silly Narutards..

[Amatsu]

lol no way. Obviously Naruto would use his NaruMeHaMeHa since that's probably gonna be his little upgrade to Rasengan. XD

[Geg]

Heh, one new rumor was "Rainbowsengan" because the Rasengan in Naruto's hand in the anime opening is all rainbow-colored.

[Tsuuga]

Psh, that was in the first movie!

[Geg]

Was it? I never watched any of the movies.

[Tsuuga]

Yeah... the "seven-color chakra" ._.

They built some kind of generator that would convert solar energy into chakra... or something. I dunno, they didn't really explain. But when Naruto did Rasengan there, it boosted his power and made it all rainbowy. But it didn't actually enhance its effects, so I don't know what the point was.

[Captain Pimp]

It makes all the kids go "oooo...ahhh..." XD

[Amatsu]

Hey didn't the first One Piece movie also show that Luffy is invulnerable to beam attacks? They didn't seem to affect him too much in that movie at least.

[Geg]

After watching this AMV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzNkgDgKSEs), made by the same guy behind Dub Piece, I'm inspired to keep watching until Water 7/Enies Lobby. It looks fucking awesome.

Yu-Gi-Oh! GX may suck, but it has one of the best opening songs ever.

[Hitotsumami]

After watching this AMV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzNkgDgKSEs), made by the same guy behind Dub Piece, I'm inspired to keep watching until Water 7/Enies Lobby. It looks fucking awesome.

Yu-Gi-Oh! GX may suck, but it has one of the best opening songs ever.

Ah, I'm not going to even click the link and I bet I can guess the name.

One Piece - Sail My Sea

Correct? I love that one. ^_^

[Geg]

Click it anyway! Watch it again! Behold the awesome! :yell

[Hitotsumami]

You should watch a few of mine. I think they come at least a little close to the awesomeness to Sail My Sea: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usaOjrHZGDU

- Goes to watch 'Sail My Sea' again. -

[Geg]

No offense, but I normally don't watch AMVs. I only watched this one because it was a familiar song.

[Hitotsumami]

No offense, but I normally don't watch AMVs. I only watched this one because it was a familiar song.

Sail My Sea was from Yu-Gi-Oh, right? I checked out the normal theme song, and the one who made the OP AMV used the song way better than the theme song did.

[Geg]

I checked out the normal theme song, and the one who made the OP AMV used the song way better than the theme song did.
I'm sorry, but that sentence... didn't make much sense. :blink

The song was the first opening for Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX.

[Hitotsumami]

Uh, lets see how I can explain.

The song worked better for the AMV than for the Theme of Yu-Gi-Oh.

Not good with explaining things.

[Geg]

Oh, you mean the opening video that the song original went with.

Yeah, I agree.

[Amatsu]

Ah, I'm not going to even click the link and I bet I can guess the name.

One Piece - Sail My Sea

Correct? I love that one. ^_^

The song they used for that AMV is opening 1 of Yugioh GX. Did ya know that?

[Hitotsumami]

The song they used for that AMV is opening 1 of Yugioh GX. Did ya know that?

Yeah, I knew that. ^_^

[Amatsu]

ah okay then... well they are on an island so sailing does make some sort of sense.

[Geg]

They really should have used that for a One Piece opening. It's about sailing and stuff, and it even has the word "nakama" in it.

[Amatsu]

lol ah well it doesn't bug me... besides Judai has nakama so it's not like it's a big difference.

[Hitotsumami]

They really should have used that for a One Piece opening. It's about sailing and stuff, and it even has the word "nakama" in it.

Yeah, it would have been a very good opening.

Maybe they'll use it for the 7th opening.

[Amatsu]

I don't think it works that way in Japan... I doubt they could use that song without the animation studio that does Yugioh GX permission.

[Tsuuga]

Hitotsu: Your "Take a Deep Breath" AMV was pretty good!

[Hitotsumami]

I don't think it works that way in Japan... I doubt they could use that song without the animation studio that does Yugioh GX permission.

Ah, of course. It was late last night and I wasn't exactly thinking. ^_^

Hitotsu: Your "Take a Deep Breath" AMV was pretty good!

Thank you, glad you liked it. ^_^

[Geg]

Has there ever been an anime to use the same opening song as another anime? Most anime openings are new songs when they first come out, right?

[Hitotsumami]

Yeah, pretty much I think.

[Amatsu]

Has there ever been an anime to use the same opening song as another anime? Most anime openings are new songs when they first come out, right?

Yeah... no anime has ever used any opening from another anime unfortunately.

[Geg]

Why didn't anyone tell me those desert episodes in Alabasta would be so boring?
-_-

[Hitotsumami]

Why didn't anyone tell me those desert episodes in Alabasta would be so boring?
-_-

You must be on the Filler episodes.

And I have to agree. The desert journey is pretty boring. It gets much better though. You're about to reach an amazing part.

[Powdered Toast Man]

They aren't that boring....maybe it's just me, I liked all the people they met especially the Kung Fu dugongs.

[Amatsu]

bah the desert journey is alright. I mean it's no where near as dull and stupid as most of the Naruto fillers got.

[escamoh]

I liked the desert fillers....more Ace =D

[Hitotsumami]

I liked the desert fillers....more Ace =D

Yeah, that's about the only good part about the fillers. Ace being there. ^_^

[d.Lughie]

Oh yeah.. those desert fillers were pretty boring IMHO.. but I watched for the sole purpose of completing the whole series..

IMO:
Desert n Apis.. the most boring filler in One Piece..

[Geg]

Apis felt like one huge waste of time. Those filler episodes in Loguetown with Usopp and Sanji were actually pretty good. Then Apis came and ruined it.

[Hitotsumami]

Apis felt like one huge waste of time. Those filler episodes in Loguetown with Usopp and Sanji were actually pretty good. Then Apis came and ruined it.

Yeah. I'm thinking you should skip fillers from now on.

[Broleta]

G8 should never be skipped :D

[Hitotsumami]

G8 should never be skipped :D

Except that one. >.<

[escamoh]

Yeah Apis arc was so ridiculously boring...

Though I've enjoyed all the fillers except that one.

[Masaki]

Don't skip the Usopp and Sanji one-shot episodes after Arabasta.

But, you can skip the Nami episode and the two arcs.

[Senior_Superboy]

I say the more One Piece the better. I can actually say this because the fillers don't suck like Naruto's. No offense to anyone.

[Tsuuga]

Don't skip the Usopp and Sanji one-shot episodes after Arabasta.

But, you can skip the Nami episode and the two arcs.

The Sanji one-shot involving curry? 0_o

I hated it.

[Broleta]

I loved the memory arc, which is my favourite filler arc in all of One Piece, followed by G8 of course.

[Molekage]

The Sanji one-shot involving curry? 0_o

I hated it.
HAVE YOU NO HEART?? he helped a poor marine @_@

the memory arc was awesome. who ever thought that you could tie another idea from another filler arc so cleaninly?

[DideeKawaii]

Well imma say this, Naruto shit all over One piece. I aint no One Piece hater.
I actually think that doing a Pirate based manga is oneof the most clever idea a mangaka had in years

I aint going to shit on the arts. I like them,Oda as a style of his own, i respect it.

I dont know, i think that the One piece Arcs are really similar, deal with the same themes, end the same way, express the same emotions ect.

I think that, the fight always look the same. They are cool, word up, but i mean, its always presented the same way. 1-1, against opponents of similar skills. Nartuo fights are like, so much original and they have some dept. Their is a battle system that generate some type of interest and deal with the intellect of the reader. Not the case in One Piece

Akatsuki so far, are the greatest vilain i saw in recent mangas. Yeah One piece, if one day shows us the real super pirates and commanders of the army would probably equal Naruto but.....i mean we dealt with some weird dude in the Water 7 arc.....(...a giraffe for fuck sakes.)

Ahh One Piece need to get to point of the main story. Enough of these, lets search for another crew member Arc. Its getting long. 43+volume.
Im getting worried that One piece will end in a hurry.

The emotional stories of the characters never ever interested me. Its not as boring as bleach but i dont know....
anyways those 3 manga sucks equaly in that departement...

I do not think One piece is better than naruto. Naruto still got that originality that makes me think it got the edge, but One piece is still a great shonen in my book!

[Tsuuga]

HAVE YOU NO HEART?? he helped a poor marine @_@

the memory arc was awesome. who ever thought that you could tie another idea from another filler arc so cleaninly?

- But it was boring :oh

- Yeah, the Memory Arc was pretty awesome. It didn't really have all that much to it, though.

[Pipboy]

Memory arc got points because it was really interesting watching the characters revert to type and also there didn't need to be a manufactured villians with uber strength that would mystically appear to compete with the hero's and then stomp on continuity like an angry child.

[Broleta]

The scene where the characters seen the people from their pasts was really touching too.

[d.Lughie]

One Piece fights I think its quite original.. What makes you think Naruto fight is original?? Its still a ninja fight?? 1 vs. 1.. Naruto, from the start was never original.. If you have followed HxH... you CAN REALLY SEE the similarity, starting from the Chuunin Test, Sharingan, Sasuke getting all avengeful, and stuffs more..

In the defense of OP, all shounen fights are THAT WAY.. 1 vs. 1... however.. OP sometimes varies it a little.. remember Skypiea arc.. Enel did a Battle ROyale.. and he predicts that the remaining people thats gonna survive through is 5 people.. and then all of them goes against him.. thats 5 VS 1...

and then in the current arcs.. switching battles.. isn't that varied?? how could you say its always 1 vs. 1...

[Bananna]

Yeah, the One Piece fights can be a bit predictable, but they work within the match-ups. Luffy's fights are never boring; I skipped most of Valley of the End.

OP Fillers > Naruto Fillers, but that's a bit of a cheap victory. It's like kicking an ugly rabid puppy. Yeah, you won, but what's the point?

Akatsuki... yeah, I have to agree that they're pretty decent as villains. But if they weren't as omgbishie, they wouldn't be HALF as popular. Look at the amount of Kakuzu or Kisame fans as opposed to Hidan or Itachi. And they do more standing around and looking pretty than actually demonstrating their badassery.

[Molekage]

^ HAHAHAHAHHA

i never noticed how bishie that akasuki is. ya think AL is really metro then? :laugh

[Amatsu]

Yeah, the One Piece fights can be a bit predictable, but they work within the match-ups. Luffy's fights are never boring; I skipped most of Valley of the End.

OP Fillers > Naruto Fillers, but that's a bit of a cheap victory. It's like kicking an ugly rabid puppy. Yeah, you won, but what's the point?

Akatsuki... yeah, I have to agree that they're pretty decent as villains. But if they weren't as omgbishie, they wouldn't be HALF as popular. Look at the amount of Kakuzu or Kisame fans as opposed to Hidan or Itachi. And they do more standing around and looking pretty than actually demonstrating their badassery.

Meh if anything Akatsuki is just a lamer version of Organization XIII

[DideeKawaii]

One Piece fights I think its quite original.. What makes you think Naruto fight is original?? Its still a ninja fight?? 1 vs. 1.. Naruto, from the start was never original.. If you have followed HxH... you CAN REALLY SEE the similarity, starting from the Chuunin Test, Sharingan, Sasuke getting all avengeful, and stuffs more..

In the defense of OP, all shounen fights are THAT WAY.. 1 vs. 1... however.. OP sometimes varies it a little.. remember Skypiea arc.. Enel did a Battle ROyale.. and he predicts that the remaining people thats gonna survive through is 5 people.. and then all of them goes against him.. thats 5 VS 1...

and then in the current arcs.. switching battles.. isn't that varied?? how could you say its always 1 vs. 1...

Well i mean, i couldnt follow HxH because, i actually tried, and the dialogues made me bored....and the arts...lets not even talk about them. But in the world if shounen, everything as took from Saint Seiya, kenshiro no Ken and Dragon Ball. The presentation ect.

But their is often fights that deal with many peoples at the same times, the recent ones mostly. The 3 legendary ninjas fight, Saori vs chiyo and Sakura, Orochimaru Vs everybody, Hidan Vs Team Asuma and Mr shikamaru.

I think that the opponents are original, but i would like to see Zoro not fighting a sword based opponent for once. But like i said, im not hating the fights. Gear 2 was the shit.

i just think naruto got that edge.

[d.Lughie]

Well.. I cannot force you to like the fights that been set up that way..

But remember Zoro's dream?? His dream is to become the best swordman in the world.. that is why, a fight with the best swordmen another pirate/marine crew has is a must for him..

Aside from Luffy, all the others are actually quite random I must say..

As for Naruto, the fights are not set up because all they have been through was like... exams.. which are basically a random draw.. and all the others are like unknown stats people.. which means that.. we don't know the style of the opponents fights..

As for OP.. we already know the basic set up.. Captain vs. Captain, Swordman vs. Swordman.. etc.. but the interesting thing is how Oda varies these similar set-up fights..

[Masaki]

@DideeKawaii: Zoro fought a gunner in Skypeia.

[Suzumebachi]

@DideeKawaii: Zoro fought a gunner in Skypeia.

And he fought Luffy.

And the Groggy Monsters.

[Masaki]

And he fought Luffy.

And the Groggy Monsters.

Oh yeah, forgot.

[Geg]

Okay, I've just finished the first 130 episodes. My one complaint is that a lot of Zoro's fights are basically plot no jutsu. Mainly Mihawk and Mr. 1.

Mihawk: No matter how strong you are, you can not hold back 3 swords with a fucking knife.

Mr. 1: So Zoro can all of a sudden cut through steel because he can "hear" it? WTF?

All of Luffy's fights have been pretty much the same too, except for the two that he lost to Crocodile: Luffy takes a beating from enemy to the point where it looks like he's about to lose, when suddenly he uses a brand new attack that completely overwhelms and defeats his opponent. Looking ahead at the Lucci fight, this formula doesn't seem to have changed much.

[Triggerhappy69]

Okay, I've just finished the first 130 episodes. My one complaint is that a lot of Zoro's fights are basically plot no jutsu. Mainly Mihawk and Mr. 1.

Mihawk: No matter how strong you are, you can not hold back 3 swords with a fucking knife.

Mr. 1: So Zoro can all of a sudden cut through steel because he can "hear" it? WTF?

All of Luffy's fights have been pretty much the same too, except for the two that he lost to Crocodile: Luffy takes a beating from enemy to the point where it looks like he's about to lose, when suddenly he uses a brand new attack that completely overwhelms and defeats his opponent. Looking ahead at the Lucci fight, this formula doesn't seem to have changed much.

I can back up both of Zoro's fights you mentioned:

Mihawk: The dude's the one of the strongest motherfuckers in the series. Plus, he's one of the 7 warlords of the Grand Line. I'm pretty sure beating a 19 year old who hasn't even been to the GL is no sweat.

Mr. 1: Way before he even heard of Mr. 1, he purchased 2 swords that CAN cut through steel. Add the fact that Zoro's pretty damn strong himself, and VOILA, he can cut steel.

[Geg]

Sure, Mihawk's strong, but from the way the fight went it looked like Zoro wasn't even trying. All he did was attack Mihawk in the same place over at over with like one sword at a time.

As for Mr. 1, pretty much the whole plot of that fight was that Zoro couldn't cut through steel until he could "hear" the steel, and then he could cut through it. Sounds like bullshit to me.

[Tsuuga]

It's not that he can "hear" it. Well, kind of. It's kind of Oda's take on ki. Ki is, basically, the breath of all things. When Zoro said he was on death's edge, he said he could hear the breathing of the objects around him. And hence, he knew he could cut them by cutting that breath or by attacking the ki itself, by channeling his own ki into his sword.

But yeah, it's all bullshit, whether it's Chi, Ki, Chakra, Reiatsu, or the Force. But it's fiction. You have to suspend your disbelief, otherwise everything smells like bullshit.

[Nihonjin]

Sure, Mihawk's strong, but from the way the fight went it looked like Zoro wasn't even trying. All he did was attack Mihawk in the same place over at over with like one sword at a time.

Zoro WAS trying...
He was just shit compared to Mihawk...
Think about it, he isn't just any enemy, he's the BEST and STRONGEST swordsman in the OP world.
Its only natural for Zoro to look like a total n00b compared to him, its like that with everything.

[Geg]

Maybe I should watch the episode again, but it certainly didn't look like Zoro was trying. I remember thinking "Dude, you've got two other swords. Use them!" throughout pretty much the whole fight.

[Broleta]

Maybe I should watch the episode again, but it certainly didn't look like Zoro was trying. I remember thinking "Dude, you've got two other swords. Use them!" throughout pretty much the whole fight.
Didn't Zoro use Sanzen Sekai against Mihawk and get pwnt easy?

[Broleta]

At the very end of the fight, yeah. Throughout most of it though it just looked like he was swinging his swords at Mihawk's knife.
Nahh Zoro was aiming for Mihawk but Mihawk was too fast and blocked all of Zoro's attacks with the knife.

[Geg]

At the very end of the fight, yeah. Throughout most of it though it just looked like he was swinging his swords at Mihawk's knife.

[Masaki]

Well, Zoro was probably a little bit nervous, regardless of how brave he really is.