Only Canada, do we desecrate our war monuments!

[Dark Schneider]

Police seek dispicable men who urinated on war monument (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=564d875f-1b81-426b-b642-79a1622745c1&k=20086)

This is utterly dispicable, essentially after Canada day ( July 1) a man was photographed urinating on a sacred war monument, which is also the burial for the remains of The Unknown Soldier.Honestly, this is not the least bit surprising, considering the fact that we don't even have an honourary guard, like every other western country!

What the heck has happened to this country? Is this how we respect WW1 & WW2 veterans? :mad

Edited to add: the bolded part. In the heat of the battle, I left out,this important detail. My apologies :)

[OtacontheOtaku]

Police seek dispicable men who urinated on war monument (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=564d875f-1b81-426b-b642-79a1622745c1&k=20086)

This is utterly dispicable, essentially after Canada day ( July 1) a man was photographed urinating on a sacred war monument. Honestly, this is not the least bit surprising, considering the fact that we don't even have an honourary guard, like in every other western country!

What the heck has happened to this country? Is this how we respect WW1 & WW2 veterans? :mad

Vandalism of national monuments is usually the act of some little anarchist pissant. Now, I can't support any kind of war, but I can understand wanting to recognize the individuals who died in service to their countrymen and women. To devalue that sacrifice is dispicable.

[Kira Yamato]

That just shows a lack of respect for their country's history and efforts during trying times. But all countries have people who want to rebel and disrespect their country.

But on to a more pressing matter.

Canada has actually taken part in wars before? :S

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

But on to a more pressing matter.

Canada has actually taken part in wars before? :S
lol, actually Canada, besides defending itself from American attacks seeking to "liberate" them from the British, took part in several key battles in WWII, including D-Day, where Canadian forces took one of the six landing beaches.

But they're still America lite. :oh

[Dark Schneider]

Canada has actually taken part in wars before? :S

Yes it damn well has ( look at me defending Canada)

Canadians fought during the first World War, where they gained the respect, as a seperate nation. There are memorable battles( Battle of Vimy Ridge, etc ). As a matter of fact, there is a monument in France honouring Canada's WW1 veterans

Canada also contributed a lot during WW2, in both aid and troops. Honestly, Canada took part in arguebly one of the greatest battles, D-Day, side by side with the British and the Americans.

Sure we never had the biggest army, and never will. But despite that, Canadians still fought and lost their lives for their country. This is why it angers me to know end, when crap like this happens.

On a much larger scale, by not providing an honourary guard or two ( like in Arlington for instance), we're not acknowledging the veterans' effort and involvement during the wars.

[Vegitto-kun]

Sure you need to respect your monuments, but hunting some drunks that pissed on a monument? Calling them a priority for the police? A bit too much to be honest

[Shogun]

yeah, those cats deserve some props. but maybe, thanks to the american media, canadians do not realise what they have done and have a sense of apathy towards their veterans. maybe with better educations desercrations such as that can be avoided in the future.

[Kira Yamato]

Maybe I should have been clear in regard to the fact that I'm aware of Canada's contributions and War engagements and that my comment was a poorly veiled attempt at humor :sweat

Edit: but it's nice to list Canada's accomplishments here as well :noworry

[OtacontheOtaku]

Sure you need to respect your monuments, but hunting some drunks that pissed on a monument? Calling them a priority for the police? A bit too much to be honest

Well... the Canadian police don't really have that much to do. So...

[Dark Schneider]

Sure you need to respect your monuments, but hunting some drunks that pissed on a monument? Calling them a priority for the police? A bit too much to be honest


You fail to realize the larger picture in this matter. The fact still stands, that Canada as a whole disrespects it's miltary! We don't even have honourary guards, acknowledging veterans!This is just a minor problem, in the grand scheme of problems that Canada has in regards to it's military.

What competent country would send out their troops in brightly coloured uniforms to Afghanistan? Only Canada!

After public outcry, common sense prevailed and troops were given proper uniforms, thankfully.

I am irked at the disrespect Canada shows towards it's military. It is not surprising that this sort of behavior has trickled down to Canadian citizens.:notrust

[Dark Schneider]

Maybe I should have been clear in regard to the fact that I'm aware of Canada's contributions and War engagements and that my comment was a poorly veiled attempt at humor :sweat

Edit: but it's nice to list Canada's accomplishments here as well :noworry


My mistake, however, I think it's necessary to provide a brief history, because many people are not aware that Canada has fought during the world wars, much less have a military.

[Key]

What? Canada fought in WWI and WWII?

[Zodd]

Who cares? You can't "desecrate" a monument as if it's some kind of pagan sacred grove. Now that you mention it, I feel like desecrating a few government buildings myself.

[Shogun]

well, at least you will gain notoriety

[Razgriez]

From what I hear from an Canadian who joined the US Airforce... yes the US Airforce and hes still a Canadian citizen... o.O
That most of the Canadian forces now are mainly medical support. I forgot why he joined the Airforce but Im assuming he didnt want to work in the medical field at the very least.

I didnt think it was possible but when we were filling out the forms they have the 10 digit social security number thing which goes a long with Canada apparantly.

[Shinigami]

Well... the Canadian police don't really have that much to do. So...

Thank you for saying that. Why do you guys bash my country!? Its not like that doesnt happen in your country! Atleast we are not prostitute nation, every prostitue that are on our streets there is 50 more on yours.

[Razgriez]

Thank you for saying that. Why do you guys bash my country!? Its not like that doesnt happen in your country! Atleast we are not prostitute nation, every prostitue that are on our streets there is 50 more on yours.
Thats because for every 1 person that lives in your country theres 50 more in ours.

[Shinigami]

Thats because for every 1 person that lives in your country theres 50 more in ours.

The only reasons people want to live there is because of all the drugs, prostitutes and alchohol.

[Razgriez]

The only reasons people want to live there is because of all the drugs, prostitutes and alchohol.
Isnt Canada more loose on rules and regulations on those sorts of things those? I know a lot of people from the US that go up to Canada to just get high smashed or laid.

[Vegitto-kun]

The only reasons people want to live there is because of all the drugs, prostitutes and alchohol.
Your feebly attempts to insult us disturb me

Jezus DS you need a chill pill what does it matter to you if there arent any honorary guards, OMG I POINTED AT A MONUMENT I AM DISRESPECTING IT :cry

[escamoh]

The only reasons people want to live there is because of all the drugs, prostitutes and alchohol.

Oh snap....:laugh.

[Shinigami]

I dont care if they pissed on a hunk of rock its just that I cant stand people bashing Canada.

[Dark Schneider]

Hey guys chill, this isn't a Canadian bashing thread. Get back on topic!


Who cares? You can't "desecrate" a monument as if it's some kind of pagan sacred grove. Now that you mention it, I feel like desecrating a few government buildings myself.

Why did I expect your response to be of this particular nature?:mad

I forgot to mention, that not only this is a national war monument, but it's also the place, where the remains of "The Unknown Solider" are buried, who fought during the WW1.

This is disrespectful towards soldiers, who risked their lives for the future generations of this country. They fought for the right, so dumbasses like ( yourself) residing in Canada can live in peace.

The audicity of people like you, is baffling. Urinating on a national war monument, that also houses the bural of a solidier is considered "okay?"

[Eagle88]

Personally, I think that they were just doing it for attention and that even if you do educate the masses there will still be some idiots that do stuff like that to get attention. I am not opposed to seeking to capture and punish these individuals either, however I do agree that I wouldn't make that my first priority if there were other crimes such as murder, sexual assault, major burglary, etc. (if these things weren't to be present however, I would pursue those responsible)

Thank you for saying that. Why do you guys bash my country!? Its not like that doesnt happen in your country! Atleast we are not prostitute nation, every prostitue that are on our streets there is 50 more on yours.

Woah now! I understand you wanting to defend your own country but attacking another persons is not the way to do it. I agree that others should not bash your country (expecially in this case since I have alot of Canadian friends) but please don't bash another nation in the process of defending your own.

lol, actually Canada, besides defending itself from American attacks seeking to "liberate" them from the British, ...

What attacks seeking to "liberate" are you referring to?

[Dark Schneider]

From what I hear from an Canadian who joined the US Airforce... yes the US Airforce and hes still a Canadian citizen... o.O
That most of the Canadian forces now are mainly medical support. I forgot why he joined the Airforce but Im assuming he didnt want to work in the medical field at the very least.

I didnt think it was possible but when we were filling out the forms they have the 10 digit social security number thing which goes a long with Canada apparantly.


This is quite common actually, for most Canadians desiring to join a proper army.:amuse

[Booster Beetle]

I fail to see how this is a big deal...at all. I agree, it shows a lack of respect and the fellow deserves a good smack, but in all honesty it is just a monument and it is just urine. What that monument represents isn't going to be undermined just because some drunk pissed on it.

'Desecration', btw, really only refers to an attack on holy or sacred objects or characters.

[Shinigami]

This is quite common actually, for most Canadians desiring to join a proper army.:amuse

What are you talking about? The Canadian army is about peace making and maintaining peace and the American army is about kill as many pakis as possible. The last I heard an american soldier raped a women in Irac, burned her body then killed her family. Yup, you have a prorper army all right.

[pi321]

I take it that you're Canadian? Well...people like this are everywhere...drunk men on independence days doing a dare. :/

[Booster Beetle]

What are you talking about? The Canadian army is about peace making and maintaining peace and the American army is about kill as many pakis as possible. The last I heard an american soldier raped a women in Irac, burned her body then killed her family. Yup, you have a prorper army all right.

I hope you're being facetious. Yes, there are a few loose canons in the American military that give the rest a bad name (as there always are) but members of the Canadian armed forces are easily just as capable as the same thing. It has nothing to do with training and everything to do with psychology...

[Dark Schneider]

What are you talking about?

This is exactly what I am talking about.


The Canadian army is about peace making and maintaining peace and the American army is about kill as many pakis as possible.

Have you been feeding on that overally biased liberal propaganda again? :amuse The fact is the American army is better prepared, treated, and provided then the Canadian army.

Probably one of the most ridiculous, things the Liberals have done, was send out Canadian "peace officers" in brightly coloured orange uniforms to Afghanistan, so that the enemies, could differentiate them from the "evil Americans", which by some logical fallacy, would prevent Canadians from getting shot :laugh

The last I heard an american soldier raped a women in Irac, burned her body then killed her family. Yup, you have a prorper army all right.

Yes, because every single American solider rapes women in Iraq /sarcasm.
Once again please get your foot out of your ass.:amuse

[Razgriez]

Have you been feeding on that overally biased liberal propaganda again? The fact is the American army is better prepared, treated, and provided then the Canadian army.

Probably one of the most ridiculous, things the Liberals have done, was send out Canadian "peace officers" in brightly coloured orange uniforms in Afghanistan, so that the enemies, could differentiate them from the "evil Americans", which by some logical fallacy, would prevent Canadians from getting shot
ROFL...

Bright orange outfits? Man, thats got "shoot me" written all over it.

Oh and armies arent created to keep the peace or whatever. I dont know where you got that idea but they are designed for when diplomacy fails and you need to shoot the fucker in the face to get your way.

[Shinigami]

Like booster said there are people who do bad things that make the whole country look bad. If you cant understand that than you have no right to critisize us. Your country does bad stuff and so does our country and also I dont support the liberals I just think there uptight comunists that want to own everything.

[Jink]

Why are there unknown soldier monuments everywhere? :huh

But they're still America lite. :oh

or America Jr. :amuse

[Dark Schneider]

I take it that you're Canadian? Well...people like this are everywhere...drunk men on independence days doing a dare. :/


I am a Canadian. As I mentioned previously, this problem is just the tip of the iceberg. For instance in the Arlington National Cemetery, there are honourary guards around the war monuments. In essence, this signifies that, these soliders who lost their lives are remembered and honoured for their service.

[Booster Beetle]

or America Jr. :amuse

Personally I like the way Douglas Adams put it, saying that each country was like a person and Canada is like an intelligent 35 year old woman. America, on the other hand, is a "belligerent adolescent boy" and Australia is "Jack Nicholson".

Fits perfectly, eh? :wink

[Dark Schneider]

ROFL...

Bright orange outfits? Man, thats got "shoot me" written all over it.

Oh and armies arent created to keep the peace or whatever. I dont know where you got that idea but they are designed for when diplomacy fails and you need to shoot the fucker in the face to get your way.


Man I only wish I was kidding! Don't get me started on the casualties, the Canadian army experiences, because of old souped up, and withered equipment, purchased from Britain and other western countries. It's pathetic.

I wasn't kidding either, when I said "Canadian peace officers", because this how Canadian soldiers are labelled by the government and public.

People snap out of lala land, and realize the army only serves one purpose.

[Dark Schneider]

Personally I like the way Douglas Adams put it, saying that each country was like a person and Canada is like an intelligent 35 year old woman. America, on the other hand, is a "belligerent adolescent boy" and Australia is "Jack Nicholson".

Fits perfectly, eh?


No I prefer the other analogy, where Canada is the adult male residing within the parent's household ( America).This adult male constantly compains how stupid his parents are, but still continues to live within their basement.

[Kira Yamato]

Thank you for saying that. Why do you guys bash my country!? Its not like that doesnt happen in your country! Atleast we are not prostitute nation, every prostitue that are on our streets there is 50 more on yours.


That's the guy's point. Canada doesn't have a high crime rate in comparison to other countries. He's trying to say that it's very peaceful in Canada hence why police aren't as busy xDD

Yeah, it was phrased the wrong way, and probably an attempt at humor. :noworry

The direction of this thread has frieghtenly gone off topic O_O

[Shinigami]

That's the guy's point. Canada doesn't have a high crime rate in comparison to other countries. He's trying to say that it's very peaceful in Canada hence why police aren't as busy xDD

Yeah, it was phrased the wrong way, and probably an attempt at humor. :noworry

The direction of this thread has frieghtenly gone off topic O_O

I dont attemt humor when Im talking about my country

[Razgriez]

Personally I like the way Douglas Adams put it, saying that each country was like a person and Canada is like an intelligent 35 year old woman. America, on the other hand, is a "belligerent adolescent boy" and Australia is "Jack Nicholson".

Fits perfectly, eh? :wink
Your forgetting the belligerent adolescent boy also has 10,000 fully armed nuclear warheads, the most influencial economy, and most advanced technologically advanced military. Its also the older of the 3 countries mentioned.

[Kira Yamato]

I dont attemt humor when Im talking about my country


I was trying to say it was a misunderstanding. It seemd like he was saying Canada has a low crime rate. I don't see how's that an insult.

His comment was veiled under poor humor. And I said he attempted poor humor, not you.

[ANBUBooBoo]

Thank you for saying that. Why do you guys bash my country!? Its not like that doesnt happen in your country! Atleast we are not prostitute nation, every prostitue that are on our streets there is 50 more on yours.
Like booster said there are people who do bad things that make the whole country look bad.

Oh, the irony.

Anywho, this whole disrespect of war monuments is horrible. Though I don't know why they didn't have someone guarding it. There are 2 war monuments in my general area and each "patriotic" holiday (Rememberance day, Canada day) there are people stationed out there guarding them from 12:00 am to 12:00 am the following day. You'd think they'd do the same, especially if it held the remains of someone (Unknown soldier or otherwise.)

[Booster Beetle]

Your forgetting the belligerent adolescent boy also has 10,000 fully armed nuclear warheads, the most influencial economy, and most advanced technologically advanced military. Its also the older of the 3 countries mentioned.

I think Mr. Adams was speaking of the way the countries BEHAVE, not of their capabilities or literal age, but if you have a problem with the metaphor feel free to dig up Douglas Adams and let him know....though it may get a little...messy. Also, I think in a way you also just made his point :P

I kid, I kid...

[Razgriez]

I think Mr. Adams was speaking of the way the countries BEHAVE, not of their capabilities or literal age, but if you have aproblem with the metaphor feel free to dig up Douglas Adams and ley him know....though it may get a little...messy. Also, I think in a way you also just made his point :P

I kid, I kid...
The point is if America is an belligerent adolescent boy then we would of all died years ago because we wouldnt of known better and just unleashed hell apon the world.

[Dark Schneider]

Razgriez, it's some kind of fad to bash America in any shape or form. It's driving me crazy :notrust

[Megaharrison]

Ah well, there are idiots everywhere you go.

But yeah...Of the Western Allies Canada contributed the 3rd most forces in WW2 (next to the U.S. and U.K.). They took 1 of the 6 beaches at Normandy on D-Day (Juno beach) and took the most casualties at the disasterous allied raid at Dieppe in 1942!

[Kira Yamato]

Please, I do not want to see any more bashing of Canada, America or any other entity in thread. Please discuss the issue in a civilized manner.

[Razgriez]

Razgriez, it's some kind of fad to bash America in any shape or form. It's driving me crazy :notrust
I think your misinterpreting what I typed, that or I mistyped what I was saying. >.<

The point is if we were as bad as we are percieved as the world would of ended long ago. Its just that the one with the most power is usually in the spot light and the people around him usually are quick to critisize him because they are mainly jealous of him and what he is capable of.

Please, I do not want to see any more bashing of Canada, America or any other entity in thread. Please discuss the issue in a civilized manner.

Eh...
Ill try, but I cant give you any garantees...

[Booster Beetle]

The point is if America is an belligerent adolescent boy then we would of all died years ago because we wouldnt of known better and just unleashed hell apon the world.
I think an adolescent knows better than to unleash armageddon on the world, personally...well, a mentally healthy adolescent, anyway. Most teenage boys would just stomp around and threaten a lot...macho chest beating and all that.

[Razgriez]

I think an adolescent knows better than to unleash armageddon on the world, personally...well, a mentally healthy adolescent, anyway. Most teenage boys would just stomp around and threaten a lot...macho chest beating and all that.
Yes but what about a belligerent one?

[Dark Schneider]

I think your misinterpreting what I typed, that or I mistyped what I was saying. >.<

The point is if we were as bad as we are percieved as the world would of ended long ago. Its just that the one with the most power is usually in the spot light and the people around him usually are quick to critisize him because they are mainly jealous of him and what he is capable of.


This is exactly what I was implying or rather perceiving as I typed my response. As so, the reactions that many people exhibit towards the U.S for reasons stated above in your post, drive me insane!

Does that make more sense? :p

[Booster Beetle]

Yes but what about a belligerent one?

A belligerent teenager beats up the neighborhood kids, he doesn't burn down the block.

[MrLiEN]

That just shows a lack of respect for their country's history and efforts during trying times. But all countries have people who want to rebel and disrespect their country.

But on to a more pressing matter.

Canada has actually taken part in wars before? :S


lol yeah they did they had a beach of their own in the landing of D-Day

But on to the main point, wow..now that is just wrong to dishonor the memory of the soldiers that fought for freedom..man :mad

[Razgriez]

This is exactly what I was implying or rather perceiving as I typed my response. As so, the reactions that many people exhibit towards the U.S for reasons stated above in your post, drives me insane!

Does that make more sense? :p
Yes, yes it does.

Theres nothing you can really do about it really. People will continually bash, downgrade, insult America. Whatever, I dont care. The country allows its citizens to talk shit about it as it is so why does it matter if some kid from some foreign country say the samething?

Everyone just needs to realize that because of the system America put forth and the values we live under gives us the freedom to talk shit about ourselves and the people who govern over us and they cant do shit about it if they get all hissy fitty, except bitch and grind and complain and potentually come up with a sly comeback ;P.

Canada also lives under similar values as well and they should be showing respect for those willing to fight for their country and not pissing on some war monument. Its not just an rememberance of some war that happened in the past its a symbol that shows that its people are willing to protect their country.

A belligerent teenager beats up the neighborhood kids, he doesn't burn down the block.
Im sure he would if you gave him some gasoline and a box of matches.

[Vegitto-kun]

I still say, you people are taking this too far, pissing against a monument isn't having no respect, heck they were probably drunk and needed to piss. putting grafiti and toilet paper on monuments is having no respect, Heck I have pissed against a monument before, I was drunk, I have respect for the soldiers not for a piece of stone

[Dark Schneider]

I still say, you people are taking this too far, pissing against a monument isn't having no respect, heck they were probably drunk and needed to piss. putting grafiti and toilet paper on monuments is having no respect, Heck I have pissed against a monument before, I was drunk, I have respect for the soldiers not for a piece of stone


This is not only a monument which represents all the soldiers who have fought and died during the war, but is also a burial housing the remains of a soldier who gave his life during the WW1.

SO you do still feel the same way?:notrust

[Vegitto-kun]

This is not only a monument which represents all the soldiers who have fought and died during the war, but is also a burial housing the remains of a soldier who gave his life during the WW1.

SO you do still feel the same way?:notrust
Ofcourse, its just a grave then, and its only one man. a monument is a monument even if there is a corpse in there

[Razgriez]

Ofcourse, its just a grave then, and its only one man. a monument is a monument even if there is a corpse in there
Pissing on someone's grave is like just going up to some random guy and say "fuck you and your mother". Its just not very nice.

[Vegitto-kun]

Pissing on someone's grave is like just going up to some random guy and say "fuck you and your mother". Its just not very nice.
Unless he was pissing right on top of the guy then I would say ok abit overdoing it but there is probably a huge monument ontop so he probably pissed on the stone not the grave

[Dionysus]

On topic, I don't particularly care. He was drunk. He pissed in public. Likely it wasn't more than that. I've done the exact same thing. Pissed on the middle of a road. Pissed into a cocky SOB's window. A host of stupid urine-related things. The only thing he should be fined for is pissing in public (but why waste huge man hours in a hunt?). We certainly shouldn't try to legislate respect. But Harper's on a hellbent mission to win over voters for anything he can, so hence it takes time in Question Period when a million other things could be brought up and debated.


But, the subsequent posts here just highlight the ignorance Americans have of Canada. Despite governmental relations might be thawing, it seems our publics seem to be drifting apart. (So, KnK's label will have a cheaper grade of adhesive when trotted out.) Certainly it would be better to get along together. I mean, the US does get more of its oil imports from Canada, so unless it wants to attack a NATO country, relations should be at least cordial. ;)

[Zodd]

Hey guys chill, this isn't a Canadian bashing thread. Get back on topic!




Why did I expect your response to be of this particular nature?:mad

I forgot to mention, that not only this is a national war monument, but it's also the place, where the remains of "The Unknown Solider" are buried, who fought during the WW1.

This is disrespectful towards soldiers, who risked their lives for the future generations of this country. They fought for the right, so dumbasses like ( yourself) residing in Canada can live in peace.

The audicity of people like you, is baffling. Urinating on a national war monument, that also houses the bural of a solidier is considered "okay?"

I don't live in Canada, smart guy.

And to the guy bashing drugs, alcohal, and prostitutes... what the hell is wrong with you?! What's wrong with those? They are all pretty fun when used in moderation.

PS: I do plenty of US bashing (my country), so it entitles me to bash Canada. Anyone who doesn't bash their own country is too high on patriotism for me.

[Dionysus]

PS: I do plenty of US bashing (my country), so it entitles me to bash Canada. Anyone who doesn't bash their own country is too high on patriotism for me.
But, it'd be nice if more of the bashers knew at least something about the real Canada. Yankee Imperialist scum.

Edit: OK, people can't see that last sentence is a joke? Since he's on this board criticising US war efforts? No? Geez. :P

[Dark Schneider]

I don't live in Canada, smart guy.

And to the guy bashing drugs, alcohal, and prostitutes... what the hell is wrong with you?! What's wrong with those? They are all pretty fun when used in moderation.

PS: I do plenty of US bashing (my country), so it entitles me to bash Canada. Anyone who doesn't bash their own country is too high on patriotism for me.


What I was trying to express, is that these veterans fought for the right, so Canadians who share your views could live in peace.

I simply stated, that we should get back on topic, because this wasn't intended to be a Canadian bashing thread. Heck I criticize Canada a lot for it's policies and what not.

But I highly respect all veterans ( American, Canadian, Russian, British etc) who risked their lives at the war front.Afterall, these are people, who sacrificed their lives, fighting across the ocean for the future generations---instead of living for their own sake, raising families and worrying about bills, among other things.

[vervex]

I think it was a good thing that man peed on that monument. It's a WAR monument, and shouldn't be respected by anyone. Do you realise what war brings to some countries ? Poverty, misery, robery, slavery, millions of death, etc. War, of any kind, has no place in a first world country like ours, that we say so... evoluated. But is it really ?

This monument should be there to remember the attrocities during the world war I and II. It shouldn't be carried with pride. Pride of what anyway ? Of how many Canadian soldiers we lost ? Of the poor 5 millions Jewish who got killed without us doing... anything at all for saving them ? War was more important, of course. Pride of the number of German killed ? Pride of bombings, destructed historical sites ?

That monument, in my opinion, was not prideful at all and deserved to be peed on, in rememberance of how war is stupid and shouldn't be acclaimed.

[Vom Osten]

I think it was a good thing that man peed on that monument. It's a WAR monument, and shouldn't be respected by anyone. Do you realise what war brings to some countries ? Poverty, misery, robery, slavery, millions of death, etc. War, of any kind, has no place in a first world country like ours, that we say so... evoluated. But is it really ?

This monument should be there to remember the attrocities during the world war I and II. It shouldn't be carried with pride. Pride of what anyway ? Of how many Canadian soldiers we lost ? Of the poor 5 millions Jewish who got killed without us doing... anything at all for saving them ? War was more important, of course. Pride of the number of German killed ? Pride of bombings, destructed historical sites ?

That monument, in my opinion, was not prideful at all and deserved to be peed on, in rememberance of how war is stupid and shouldn't be acclaimed.

War isnt as gallant as everyone thought:oh

[vervex]

War isnt as gallant as everyone thought:oh
Edit: alrighty :)

[Dark Schneider]

Whether you agree or disagree with the purpose of the World Wars---I don't care. This monument does not honour the "pride and greatness of war" or other crap your spewing. The said monument honours people who have lossed and sacrificed their lives, who either volunteered without being fully aware of what war is ( WW1 is a good example of this) and who were forced under conscription to fight. Essentially, all these people fought, so that idealistic idiots like you could bitch about how "bad" and "unnecessary" war is. I am honouring the solidiers, not the battles, you idiot.

[vervex]

Whether you agree or disagree with the purpose of the World Wars---I don't care. This monument does not honour the "pride and greatness of war" or other crap your spewing. The said monument honours people who have lossed and sacrificed their lives, who either volunteered without being fully aware of what war is ( WW1 is a good example of this) and who were forced under conscription to fight. Essentially, all these people fought, so that idealistic idiots like you could bitch about how "bad" and "unnecessary" war is. I am honouring the solidiers, not the battles, you idiot.

So now someone who doesn't believe in the same things you do is necessarly... an idiot ? Hmmm, I see. I think I explained myself very well on why I didn't war, not anything related to it, soldiers implicated. You must know that people in my family are serving the Canadian army and that I still don't think any of their work is useful. It's not a matter of idiocy, or ignorance. Just a different view on monument that was raised for comemorating violent acts of our sad history.

But I don't worry that much, you know ? Coz seeing your signature, I'm also not the only idiot who doesn't like you. And I will not be the last one - for your great sense of respect of the people you are talking to, and your wide vocabulary, when time comes to insult people who don't have the same views. Also your grand tolerance of others' opinions. But I'm an idiot, ain't I ?

Have a good day my dear. May the canadian nation reward you for your bravery against evil anarchists ! ;)

[Dark Schneider]

So now someone who doesn't believe in the same things you do is necessarly... an idiot ? Hmmm, I see. I think I explained myself very well on why I didn't war, not anything related to it, soldiers implicated. You must know that people in my family are serving the Canadian army and that I still don't think any of their work is useful. It's not a matter of idiocy, or ignorance. Just a different view on monument that was raised for comemorating violent acts of our sad history.

Once again, you may dislike the war for whatever reason---but at least show respect for people who were forced to risk theirs lives so people such a
yourself would have the right to bash their efforts. Ironic ain't it? :amuse


But I don't worry that much, you know ? Coz seeing your signature, I'm also not the only idiot who doesn't like you. And I will not be the last one - for your great sense of respect of the people you are talking to, and your wide vocabulary, when time comes to insult people who don't have the same views. Also your grand tolerance of others' opinions. But I'm an idiot, ain't I ?

Perhaps you should look further into that thread, before you make false accusations! For I did not insult anyone. Some obnoxious noob ( given by how it effected my rep) neg-repped me without leaving his name, just because I stated that Isreal would retailate against Palestinian attacks....imagine that? Palestine is allowed to attack but Isreal is not allowed to fight back:notrust

I assure you, you are an idiot. I didn't agree with you, but I also didn't neg rep you, given your statement.


Have a good day my dear. May the canadian nation reward you for your bravery against evil anarchists ! ;)



Don't worry, I'll be sure to give my regards to other "Quebeckers"

[Narvi]

Bloody stupid people. Alcohol + stupid people, results in situations like this. On a war memorial? What kind of idiots would do that? I'm angry now.

[omni1337]

That just shows a lack of respect for their country's history and efforts during trying times. But all countries have people who want to rebel and disrespect their country.

But on to a more pressing matter.

Canada has actually taken part in wars before? :S

Suprising isn't it.

[pavister]

update: guy turns himself in. states wasnt tryin to insult war veterans or the like. simply needed to go pee

i think ppl are getting way to angry over this
if an animal like a dog or bird peed/pooped on the war monument, would every1 get just as angry? the guy wasnt tryin to make a statement or be offensive

[AestheticizeAnalog]

Well... the Canadian police don't really have that much to do. So...

I wouldn't really say that. Our crime rate is much lower than the states per capita. But our rate of violent crimes is still much higher than that of most European nations. The biggest problem in my city which has caused our murder rate to rise quite a bit. Is the immense amount of ethnic gang violence.

Sorry, if your comment was an attempt at sarcasm. I wasn't sure so I just went ahead with the post.

From what I hear from an Canadian who joined the US Airforce... yes the US Airforce and hes still a Canadian citizen... o.O
That most of the Canadian forces now are mainly medical support. I forgot why he joined the Airforce but Im assuming he didnt want to work in the medical field at the very least.

I didnt think it was possible but when we were filling out the forms they have the 10 digit social security number thing which goes a long with Canada apparantly.

Well the person you met is wrong. They are not medical support. However I can see a reason why he would join the US Airforce. The canadian government cannot support to have our military to be able to be a combat force and a peacekeeping (police) force. They have tried to support both; however most often Canadians are used less often in regular combat and more often in policing duties. Which is a shame because the training the Canadian military recieves is by no means subpar.

[The_Leader]

I remember a long time back, in the 90's.

When a old man, owner of a jewelery shop, was assaulted, robbed, and threatened at gunpoint, by two random punks. After they got out, he ran out with his gun, and stopped them, killing one, and getting back his life's work and money.

The jury sentenced him to jail for manslaughter.:notrust

The problem with Canada is bureacracy, incomprehensible politics, and plain lack of common sense. The police are better off not doing anything about this outrage because it's statistically more likely that the culprit will show up without an investigation.

And yeah, there was such an uproar about that ruling that it was eventually overturned.

[Deidara_rocks_my_socks]

The problem with Canada is bureacracy, incomprehensible politics, and plain lack of common sense.



Dude, that's the problem with most countries. :P



Canada has actually taken part in wars before?



:amuse. Actually ,Canada participated in both world wars a good 2.5 yrs before U.S. got involved. "And then America won the war", as my history prof jokes.

That's a joke, not an insult, in case you weren't sure. People have a hard time taking humour against their own country because they are never sure when a comment is humour or insult. U.S. military is, of course, much better organized than ours nowadays. I guess we're focused on different matters and our courses of action are different than the U.S.

As for Canada bashing, I love Canada to death, it's a fucking awesome place to live, and guess what. I like the U.S. too and can't wait to visit when I get some money. There's no need to put each other down all the time, dammit. We're both great places to live and we both have some fucked up policies. Whatever.

Unto the Thread Topic :P

I think it'd be better to not blame an entire country for disrespect based on one reckless guy's drunken idea. Why do his actions get more attention than the respect most Canadians do feel everyday?

[redfalcon]

I think it was a good thing that man peed on that monument. It's a WAR monument, and shouldn't be respected by anyone. Do you realise what war brings to some countries ? Poverty, misery, robery, slavery, millions of death, etc. War, of any kind, has no place in a first world country like ours, that we say so... evoluated. But is it really ?

What are Mrs world peace or something?.. oh! war is bad lets all stop it Imeaditely. If some people didint go out to defend their countrys their would be more Poverty, misery, robery, slavery, and deaths. Wars are kinda like having a weapon at your disposal, you have to have the right knowledge of using it and only use it if you know you are in harms way. Otherwise your doing more harm then good, but if you don't take action you could get killed Immediately.

As for the monument, if you think it's ok for someone to piss all over your dead body and something you devoted your life dying to, then it's ok, regardless if they were drunk or not.

Since they probably will have to much of a hard time trying to catch them it would be best if they just got a guard to watch the damn thing and if it happens again or they do find the guys. It would be best tho punish them in public, just because of the fact that they did it in public. That would also set a good example of what would be coming to the next bum who can't hold it down much longer.

[Lakira]

:mad Canada. CANADA!!:mad

[Love]

I dunt like Canada:( I live in Canada:sweatdrop