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Purgatory
07-04-2006, 12:53 AM
Well, I'm not sure about Itachi's skills since I'm watching the dub (Damn the American censorships) but I, for one, KNOW all of Vergil's skills (Beat the game on Hard..still trying to get past Mission 4 on DMD..>.>) But anyways, Vergil has the ability to attack long and short-ranged attacks (This is assuming he has Force Edge, Beowulf, and his trusted Yamatou with his Devil Trigger). For those who don't know, Vergil Sparda is twin brother of Dante, sons of Sparda. Vergil is the wiser of the two, obviously he's more powerful and can hold his DT for a longer period of time.

So anyways, before I let you explain how it would go and who would win, Vergil has the ability "Sky Star" which pretty much he can use his incredible speed to go almost anywhere with his speed. And unlike Itachi, Vergil isn't blind. I also want to go into the specifics of his weapons and skills

Yamatou: This is his weapon of choice, meaning he'll use this most of the time. He can use it long-range by positioning himself into an offensive state and create "purple orbs" which slash at whatever's near it. He can use Helm Break (He "Dashes" into the air and slashes downward) and pretty much slash. Also, He goes about in a Stinger move (For those who don't know, he runs at the foe with his sword out and has a good vertical range. However, sometimes he strikes at the sides, so it would be sort of impossible to dodge unless you could jump somewhat fairly high)

Beowulf: He used this in the second encounter in the first part of the battle (Before his health gets about 50%.) Basically he uses these for combos, however though it gives him power, it slows him down because of the speed that was sacrificed. He also uses an attack called Killer Bee, which he leaps into the air, and he kicks into whatever direction the foe is (It's pretty much a heat-seeking missile unless you're at a REALLY far location or dodge it)

Force Edge: Rarely used, he only uses it like a boomerange, only it attacks the foe a couple times, but if you "throw enough kunai" at it, it changes direction.

DT: It's his devil transformation to turn into his devil side. Though he can only withstand it for a limited amount of time, he becomes dramatically powerful (This is NOT the Super DT from the final fight). He'll do attacks faster, harder, and won't give you any mercy. There is a catch, though. You can "knock" him out of it if you attack him enough, but he won't be affected and he'll probably kick the shit out of you if you try to attack too much. He would probably be able to go DT again if you let him hit you enough or if you do enough damage.

Super DT: This is a real son of a bitch, because:

1.) He can't be "knocked" out of his DT
2.) Becomes even MORE powerful
3.) Uses attacks like the continuous Helm Breaker and the "Hide and Go Seek purple orb slashy thingy" which sometimes follows you if you're running, or just goes about randomly, though sometimes it could hit

Now, as for me, I think Vergil could EASILY beat Itachi. Sorry Itachi fans, but Vergil is more powerful in strength and speed. I imagine that when the fight would begin, Vergil walks towards Itachi, readies for an attack. Itachi would pull off some illusion, but being the wiser of the twins, he wouldn't see through it. And to end it quickly, he uses the Stinger and slash all about. If that doesn't end it, Vergil could quickly go into DT and go into his Helm Crasher combo.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:04 AM
Does he have anything that can counter Tsukiyomi?

If not, then he loses.

btw, Itachi isn't blind...

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:05 AM
Virgil is a half-Arch Devil who spent quite a time in hell.

I'd say yes, he does.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:05 AM
Well..he could try to go Super DT and see if anything happens..and also, I read from some of the topics Itachi was blind

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:08 AM
Virgil is a half-Arch Devil who spent quite a time in hell.

I'd say yes, he does.

So...can he block Tsukiyomi? Would he die from getting stabbed in the heart or something?

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:11 AM
So...can he block Tsukiyomi? Would he die from getting stabbed in the heart or something?
I don't recall Tsukiyomi ever doing real physical damage?

He can go through Tsukiyomi because he has spent time in hell, worse than that is hard to come by.

And I do not know exactly, but his brother Dante has been unfased by having several scythes stuck in his body, and that was only at the start of DMC3, so I can imagine Virgil being quite resistant to being stabbed in the heart.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:14 AM
First off, I feel very sorry for you having to watch the dub. It's not bad but you are going to have LONG TIME before you get to Itachi.

Now, this is so one-sided, it is beyond sad, its pathetic. Normal Vergil would ass-rape Itachi 'till next January. Not even close. Vergil crushes him in speed, power, intelligence, everything. No Genjutsu, Ninjutsu or Taijutsu would save Itachi from Vergil (you guys don't even try to bring MS crap because by the time he does, his head would be on the ground.) because Vergil kills then asks questions. Vergil's speed is higher than anyone from Naruto and is fast or near as fast (hard to judge since he is from a video game) Bankai Ichigo, who would make a FAR better match-up than Itachi. And then it's Sparda Vergil with all of his weapons you're using for this match-up, good god. To basically wrap this up, Vergil would own Itachi in .5 seconds and probably own all of Konaha by himself. The fight would be like this:

Vergil: Get out of my way.

Itachi's head on the ground. End

P.S: I am not flaming you, just saying the brutal truth about this thread. It's an alright thread but if you put someone like Zoro or Bankai Ichigo, then this would be a much better thread.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:15 AM
I don't recall Tsukiyomi ever doing real physical damage?

He can go through Tsukiyomi because he has spent time in hell, worse than that is hard to come by.

And I do not know exactly, but his brother Dante has been unfased by having several scythes stuck in his body, and that was only at the start of DMC3, so I can imagine Virgil being quite resistant to being stabbed in the heart.

Well Itachi can basically make him go through anything he desires for as long as he wants....if that doesn't do anything to this Virgil guy then I guess Itachi doesn't stand a chance.

Does Virgil have any weaknesses?

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:16 AM
Well..yes. If Dante can survive being stabbed in the heart by Alastor, the burning of Ifrit's gauntlets, and being continually stabbed, then Vergil can definitely withstand a simple katana to the heart.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:16 AM
By the way, I was wondering: Is it Vergil, or Virgil? Seeing as a lot of DMC seems to be based, or atleast loosely based on The Divine Comedy, it should be Virgil. :oh

Worse than hell is not some imaginable, I suppose.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:17 AM
By the way, I was wondering: Is it Vergil, or Virgil? Seeing as a lot of DMC seems to be based, or atleast loosely based on The Divine Comedy, it should be Virgil. :oh
No, it's Vergil in the game because they're relating Virgil and Dante, two opposing authors. So they relate to them as "brothers" in the game, but they call Virgil, Vergil

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:17 AM
First off, I feel very sorry for you having to watch the dub. It's not bad but you are going to have LONG TIME before you get to Itachi.

Now, this is so one-sided, it is beyond sad, its pathetic. Normal Vergil would ass-rape Itachi 'till next January. Not even close. Vergil crushes him in speed, power, intelligence, everything. No Genjutsu, Ninjutsu or Taijutsu would save Itachi from Vergil (you guys don't even try to bring MS crap because by the time he does, his head would be on the ground.) because Vergil kills then asks questions. Vergil's speed is higher than anyone from Naruto and is fast or near as fast (hard to judge since he is from a video game) Bankai Ichigo, who would make a FAR better match-up than Itachi. And then it's Sparda Vergil with all of his weapons you're using for this match-up, good god. To basically wrap this up, Vergil would own Itachi in .5 seconds and probably own all of Konaha by himself. The fight would be like this:

Vergil: Get out of my way.

Itachi's head on the ground. End

P.S: I am not flaming you, just saying the brutal truth about this thread. It's an alright thread but if you put someone like Zoro or Bankai Ichigo, then this would be a much better thread.

:nuts That changes my mind...

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:18 AM
Well Itachi can basically make him go through anything he desires for as long as he wants....if that doesn't do anything to this Virgil guy then I guess Itachi doesn't stand a chance.

Does Virgil have any weaknesses?
Well..if you count taking Vergil's amulet from him a weakness..maybe. But he could just come right back and slice his body up into a million pieces to get it back.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:19 AM
Tsukiyomi is a bit overrated. Yes, Itachi can do whatever he wants in it, but pretty much against someone like Vergil who is invulnerable to most things, his options heavily limited. Fireballs, swords wouldn't work on Vergil since Dante got stabbed and burned in the first one and he walked out pretty fine and Vergil is his twin. Man, if only there was DMC anime, then everyone would see the greatness of Vergil, and Dante as well

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:20 AM
No, it's Vergil in the game because they're relating Virgil and Dante, two opposing authors. So they relate to them as "brothers" in the game, but they call Virgil, Vergil
Opposing authors, I can't quite recall that. I have read the Comedy and the poet Virgil is Dante's guide through his journey.

So any idea as to why it is Vergil?

yukiexsasuke
07-04-2006, 01:20 AM
I am sure that Itachi would kick some ass

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:21 AM
:nuts That changes my mind...
then can this topic be about Zolo V.S. Sparda since I feel like such an idiot for starting this sinc eI thought Itatchi would at LEAST be a fair match

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:22 AM
Opposing authors, I can't quite recall that. I have read the Comedy and the poet Virgil is Dante's guide through his journey.

So any idea as to why it is Vergil?
Beats me. But basically the game is mostly based from the poets, (EX: The seven Hells)

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:24 AM
If I recall correctly, in the Comedy there were Nine Hells, with the last three having several pouches.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:27 AM
Well..I never read it because I obviously haven't seen the books. But, let's get back on topic, shall we?

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:29 AM
It's pretty much been decided, though, Virgil/Vergil wins this easily.

If you want to read The Divine Comedy, but don't wish to buy the book, go to this site for a full online version of it. (http://www.bartleby.com/20/)

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:29 AM
then can this topic be about Zolo V.S. Sparda since I feel like such an idiot for starting this sinc eI thought Itatchi would at LEAST be a fair match


Much better match-up matchup and a very close one, but I'll go with Vergil. He may not have the ridiculous strength that Zoro has but his speed is far superior and compensates and his attacks are quite wide and damaging and then you got DT and near invulnearability.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:31 AM
This Virgil guy is insane....I can't beleive I've never seen a thread with him before.

Rellik
07-04-2006, 01:32 AM
MS can't last forever btw, it's based on chakra and itachi doesn't have infinite chakra. So even if itachi caught him (his technique isn't instant as it's shown to need charge time) in it, as soon as it's done itachi is dead.

His best chance would be the fire of the sun technique and even then i doubt he could hit virgil with it.

You don't even need to bring up virgil with the equipment of his father, virgil with a sharp/pointy stick would be too much for itachi. Virgil doesn't even need to activate his devil form either. So basically the weakest form of virgil can whoop on itachi.

Ninjas can't compare to demons/devils/whatever. It's an unfair battle.
Anyone who thinks itachi can't win, hasn't played DMC. This is basically almost like goku vs. spiderman.

(There is a DMC comic book, I haven't read it though)

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:39 AM
Much better match-up matchup and a very close one, but I'll go with Vergil. He may not have the ridiculous strength that Zoro has but his speed is far superior and compensates and his attacks are quite wide and damaging and then you got DT and near invulnearability.
But Zolo is only human, while Vergil grasps the power of half-demon. Wouldn't it be common sense that he could be stronger? And wouldn't Sky Star just make him even FASTER than Zolo?

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:40 AM
It's pretty much been decided, though, Virgil/Vergil wins this easily.

If you want to read The Divine Comedy, but don't wish to buy the book, go to this site for a full online version of it. (http://www.bartleby.com/20/)
Incase you missed this, Raigeki.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:41 AM
I saved it as a favorite. When I first read the first Canto, it gave me that...sort of orgasmic feeling that it's like he uses the weirdest words in the most awkward time

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:42 AM
Metaphores, phrases and views unlike others, eh? It's a definite legendary piece of work.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:44 AM
But Zolo is only human, while Vergil grasps the power of half-demon. Wouldn't it be common sense that he could be stronger? And wouldn't Sky Star just make him even FASTER than Zolo?


In the world of One Piece, there are no humans after the first three arcs. Zoro's strength is monstrous, botherline insane for a human and OP universe throws all logic and laws of physics so you can't really say that because he is human, he would get destroyed by Vergil. I put Zoro as one of your choices because he would at least forced Vergil to use both hands and fight seriously, unlike Itachi. But you see, that is why DMC needs to be animated, then everyone will know how powerful Vergil is.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:45 AM
In the world of One Piece, there are no humans after the first three arcs. Zoro's strength is monstrous, botherline insane for a human and OP universe throws all logic and laws of physics so you can't really say that because he is human, he would get destroyed by Vergil. I put Zoro as one of your choices because he would at least forced Vergil to use both hands and fight seriously, unlike Itachi. But you see, that is why DMC needs to be animated, then everyone will know how powerful Vergil is.
To be honest, the cutscenes give a pretty decent view of how powerful the DMC characters are.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:46 AM
This Virgil guy is insane....I can't beleive I've never seen a thread with him before.


It is because fools underestimate his power because he's a "video game" character. For god's sake, he could easily be a member of the CP9, high-ranked marine or even a captain of the Gotei 13. But soon, there world will come to realize his great power, as soon as someone decides to animate the comic book and assuming the comic book gets finished.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:46 AM
Oh, GOD that would be awesome..it would show the twins' TRUE powers as half demons. Someone should write that to like...a big anime show..thingy.

But anyways, I think Vergil would have the advantage because he can use Beowulf for power, go into DT to regain that lost speed and bring even MORE power, though he has a limited time with it, he could give Zolo a few combos before he would fall.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:48 AM
It is because fools underestimate his power because he's a "video game" character. For god's sake, he could easily be a member of the CP9, high-ranked marine or even a captain of the Gotei 13. But soon, there world will come to realize his great power, as soon as someone decides to animate the comic book and assuming the comic book gets finished.
So would that mean he'd be even stronger than the most single-handedly most powerful Naruto character and make him seem like an annoying zit?

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:48 AM
To be honest, the cutscenes give a pretty decent view of how powerful the DMC characters are.


They do but it's not like everyone plays the game (and whoever don't are fools except if they do not have a PS2). Besides, people will underestimate him because he is a video game character and not an anime/manga character.

Keollyn
07-04-2006, 01:48 AM
Well..yes. If Dante can survive being stabbed in the heart by Alastor, the burning of Ifrit's gauntlets, and being continually stabbed, then Vergil can definitely withstand a simple katana to the heart.

Was that really the heart? It didn't seem like the heart to me.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:49 AM
Really?

I figured that pretty much anybody with a PS2 would have played atleast DMC I or III, they're two of the best games out there.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:50 AM
So would that mean he'd be even stronger than the most single-handedly most powerful Naruto character and make him seem like an annoying zit?


Exactly, fellow battledomer. Exactly, because Vergilness is awesomeness and badassness put together. That's what happens when an author limits a universe that could very powerful only because of the plot (Bleach and OP have great plots and their characters are ALOT STRONGER than Naruto)

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:51 AM
So would that mean he'd be even stronger than the most single-handedly most powerful Naruto character and make him seem like an annoying zit?

Are you saying Itachi's the most powerful guy in Naruto?

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:52 AM
Really?

I figured that pretty much anybody with a PS2 would have played atleast DMC I or III, they're two of the best games out there.


You can say the same things about Final Fantasy. Most people have played them all, but I have not played a single one. I am not that saying that ALOT of people haven't played it, just that there are some and they are fools for not playing them.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:52 AM
Exactly, fellow battledomer. Exactly, because Vergilness is awesomeness and badassness put together. That's what happens when an author limits a universe that could very powerful only because of the plot (Bleach and OP have great plots and their characters are ALOT STRONGER than Naruto)

Definetly agree with you on that :amuse.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:53 AM
Exactly, fellow battledomer. Exactly, because Vergilness is awesomeness and badassness put together. That's what happens when an author limits a universe that could very powerful only because of the plot (Bleach and OP have great plots and their characters are ALOT STRONGER than Naruto)
So what about the strongest from OP (Obviously Luffy's Crew)? What if he had to face up against ALL of them, Luffy, Zolo, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, AND Chopper?

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 01:54 AM
Are you saying Itachi's the most powerful guy in Naruto?
No, I was referring to whoever was the most powerful character in the Narutoverse..

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:54 AM
So what about the strongest from OP (Obviously Luffy's Crew)? What if he had to face up against ALL of them, Luffy, Zolo, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, AND Chopper?

Your forgetting Robin. But would she be able to hold Virgil down?

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 01:56 AM
So what about the strongest from OP (Obviously Luffy's Crew)? What if he had to face up against ALL of them, Luffy, Zolo, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, AND Chopper?


"woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Lois, this not my Batman cup." Peter Griffin from Family Guy. Greatest quote in the universe.

I am not saying he would beat all of them, I am just saying if he was an enemy in One Piece, he would be one of those high-tier guys but that would give him the matchup he needs though to go all out.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 01:57 AM
Well, if she held down Virgil in his normal state, and he proceeded to go into DT, she'd be tossed off. Or maybe I'm thinking of Bloody Roar, whom knows.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 01:58 AM
"woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. Lois, this not my Batman cup." Peter Griffin from Family Guy. Greatest quote in the universe.

:laugh I remember that episode!

But anyway, was Virgil defeated in DMC? I've only played a demo of DMC1 a LONG time ago...

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 02:00 AM
Well, Dante did defeat Nelo Angelo, if I recall correctly, who is basically a mind-controlled Virgil.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 02:02 AM
Well, Dante did defeat Nelo Angelo, if I recall correctly, who is basically a mind-controlled Virgil.

How does he kill him? I just wanna know how someone like Virgil/Neo Angelo would be killed.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 02:03 AM
:laugh I remember that episode!

But anyway, was Virgil defeated in DMC? I've only played a demo of DMC1 a LONG time ago...
All right..where to begin? Ahh.. yes. You see, DMC3 is a prequel to DMC1. If you never played DMC3, then you missed out grasshopper. Now, if anyone can do that spoiler tag thing, much obliged

Spoiler: For those who know, at the end of DMC 3, where you have to fight the monsters with Lady, if you happen to kill over 100 Demons, you'll get an ending sequence in which where Mundus in his..energy form. Vergil says something about if his father could do it, so could he. Then he taked out his Yamatou and charges at it

In DMC1, sadly, he becomes possessed by Mundus and turns into Nelo Angelo..the guy in black with the blue glowy veins and the sword. In the final encounter he reveals his face which is similarily Vergil's if you notice.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 02:04 AM
How does he kill him? I just wanna know how someone like Virgil/Neo Angelo would be killed.


He just beat him in combat, that's all, and to tell you the truth, I am one of the people that do not believe that Nelo/Vergil is dead.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 02:05 AM
He just beat him in combat, that's all, and to tell you the truth, I am one of the people that do not believe that Nelo/Vergil is dead.
Yes..I do believe he didn't die..just wasn't really in any part of DMC2, which..was the suckiest game in comparison to the other two.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 02:10 AM
Yes..I do believe he didn't die..just wasn't really in any part of DMC2, which..was the suckiest game in comparison to the other two.


DMC 2 did not exist (only Supet Dante and his DT form did). It was only an illusion, that's all.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 02:12 AM
Well thanks for the info except I'm even more confused now lol. I guess I'll rent these games sometime...but I've heard they're hard as hell.

Purgatory
07-04-2006, 02:15 AM
Well thanks for the info except I'm even more confused now lol. I guess I'll rent these games sometime...but I've heard they're hard as hell.
Get DMC 3...starts easy but when you get to Hard and Dante Must Die!...you'll want to break your controller and cry...HARD!


And to the other person, I'm talking about the GAME, unless you're talking about something totally different

Soljah
07-04-2006, 02:19 AM
lol Itachi is not blind it is rumored his eyesight is deteriorating but it can be interpretted (prolly spelled that wrong) in another way.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 03:17 AM
This video is when Vergil kills one of the bosses. A small spoiler at best.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=O6zkBERVAF8&search=Vergil


This video is pure pwnage and shows how fast and powerful Vergil really is. This man is no joke.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 03:36 AM
:amazed That vid was awsome! Thanks.

He sliced that demon thing up bad...

Renegade
07-04-2006, 07:17 AM
I'de give this to Vergil, cuz he's the son of sparda, and i loved kickin his ass in DMC smile-big.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 11:35 AM
I'de give this to Vergil, cuz he's the son of sparda, and i loved kickin his ass in DMC smile-big.


Didn't we all loved shoving his ego up his ass, especially in that final fight:laugh . One of the few bosses that I felt complete satisfaction beating.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Didn't we all loved shoving his ego up his ass, especially in that final fight:laugh . One of the few bosses that I felt complete satisfaction beating.
Completing DMC3 was not all too satisfying for me, MGS3 was a whole 'nother matter, though.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 11:52 AM
Completing DMC3 was not all too satisfying for me, MGS3 was a whole 'nother matter, though.


See, MGS3 is one game I did want to play but never got to it. Is it as good as people say it is?

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 12:02 PM
Oh, fuck yes.

MGS3 is quite possibly the best game I've played so far. Excellent story, magnificent voice acting, decent graphics, many weapons and camos, killing animals to eat or just tranquilising them, just so much you can do. Not to mention that the easter-eggs are quite funny.

Giorno Giovanna
07-04-2006, 12:04 PM
Oh, fuck yes.

MGS3 is quite possibly the best game I've played so far. Excellent story, magnificent voice acting, decent graphics, many weapons and camos, killing animals to eat or just tranquilising them, just so much you can do. Not to mention that the easter-eggs are quite funny.


Impressive. Now I REALLY need to get a new PS2 (My old one broke down on me.:cry )

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 12:06 PM
Best thing is, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is only like twenty bucks.

escamoh
07-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Best thing is, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is only like twenty bucks.

There's that new version of MGS3 out isn't there? With extra stuff and a new camera system.

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 04:21 PM
No, that's Subsistence.

Azure-kun
07-04-2006, 05:08 PM
funny, Itachi doesn't have any Protection Towards Vergil whom is a demon. . .why do People continue to make these threads?

off topic: Oh hell fucking yes

MGS 3 is Bloody awsome, the controls are almost like the smooth Gamecube version and substances Online fretures are next to godly. if you have a PS2 this is a must buy!!

escamoh
07-04-2006, 05:35 PM
funny, Itachi doesn't have any Protection Towards Vergil whom is a demon. . .why do People continue to make these threads?

It's been decided that Virgil wins already. Thread creator only watches dubbed Naruto, he didn't know about Itachi's powers.

Azure-kun
07-04-2006, 05:52 PM
It's been decided that Virgil wins already. Thread creator only watches dubbed Naruto, he didn't know about Itachi's powers.

so what?

this is meh first Post here, I still have the right to make my thoughts clear even if the thread starter didnt know what he/she was doing. :oh

escamoh
07-04-2006, 05:56 PM
so what?

this is meh first Post here, I still have the right to make my thoughts clear even if the thread starter didnt know what he/she was doing. :oh

Ok then.....have fun contributing to the discussion.

Renegade
07-04-2006, 06:20 PM
No, that's Subsistence.
Isn't that the newer MSG3 though?

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Isn't that the newer MSG3 though?
Yeah, that's the one with online play and all those fancy add-ons. Snake Eater is the original.

Azure-kun
07-04-2006, 06:29 PM
Yeah, that's the one with online play and all those fancy add-ons. Snake Eater is the original.

do you have snake eater or substance. . .

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 06:31 PM
Substance is Metal Gear Solid 2, Subsistence is the newer version of MGS 3.

And I have Snake Eater, why?

Azure-kun
07-04-2006, 06:45 PM
Substance is Metal Gear Solid 2, Subsistence is the newer version of MGS 3.

And I have Snake Eater, why?

I was gonna ask you for your Online Password so I can Beat you down with Fury.:amuse

Hangatýr
07-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Sure, sure.

And The Fure was the weakest designed character of the Cobras.

Soljah
07-04-2006, 06:58 PM
I don't think virgil is dead either. Probably just that possed form is destroyed and he's free again. Also if u go to youtube and put in Devil May cry 4 they have the trailer for it. ANd you can see Virgil in the Trailer for the ps3 so yea he still around. Capcom would be stupid not to have such a badass character outa DMC anyway

Renegade
07-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Substance is Metal Gear Solid 2, Subsistence is the newer version of MGS 3.

And I have Snake Eater, why?
I thought metal gear solid 2 was sons of liberty.

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 04:45 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/metalgearsolid2substance/index.html

Comic Book Guy
07-05-2006, 05:30 AM
See, MGS3 is one game I did want to play but never got to it. Is it as good as people say it is?

Dude, as a person who's ultimate goal in life is to write great fiction stories. . . pick up the MGS series.

Games are as follows, canon-wise and in chronological order.

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Subsistence as well) for PS2
Metal Gear Portable Ops for PSP
Metal Gear for NES?
Metal Gear 2 for NES?
Metal Gear Solid (Twin Snakes, the remake, seems to be the new canon) for PS1 and GC (remake only)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Substance as well) for PS2
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the PS3

But to get back on topic --

Does Vergil have his DT?

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 05:33 AM
Looking at the first post, I'd say he has, or else the topic starter wouldn't list his DT as a feat.

Comic Book Guy
07-05-2006, 05:39 AM
The fact that he's mentioning Vergil's Super DT. . .

Well. . . any arguments on behalf of Itachi? I'd like to know both sides thoroughly before giving my belief on who would win.

Azure-kun
07-05-2006, 10:45 AM
See, MGS3 is one game I did want to play but never got to it. Is it as good as people say it is?

Dude, as a person who's ultimate goal in life is to write great fiction stories. . . pick up the MGS series.

Games are as follows, canon-wise and in chronological order.

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Subsistence as well) for PS2
Metal Gear Portable Ops for PSP
Metal Gear for NES?
Metal Gear 2 for NES?
Metal Gear Solid (Twin Snakes, the remake, seems to be the new canon) for PS1 and GC (remake only)
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Substance as well) for PS2
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the PS3

But to get back on topic --

Does Vergil have his DT?


I think the thread starter was valid on DT for vergil

onto metal gear: if your Planing on getting MGS 3 you might as well have it as substance, the same storyline now with Online playablity.:wink

it should be about a worthy 38$ if your good at retail sources. . .

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 11:40 AM
It's SUBSISTENCE, Substance is the updated version of Metal Gear 2: Sons of Liberty.

Renegade
07-05-2006, 01:56 PM
Clearing the air:

Substance is the updated version of mgs2: Sons of Liberty
Subsistance is the updated version of mgs3: Snake Eater

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 02:00 PM
Clearing the air:

Substance is the updated version of mgs2: Sons of Liberty
Subsistance is the updated version of mgs3: Snake Eater
It's Subsistence, actually.

Renegade
07-05-2006, 03:17 PM
^...:notrust

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 03:20 PM
It's been stated NINE TIMES in both posts and quotes that it's SUBSISTENCE.

Renegade
07-05-2006, 03:40 PM
^ I know... whats your point? It was a minor spelling mistake, an A for an E.

I said subsistance instead of subsistence. It's the same shit... don't make a huge deal about it.

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 03:40 PM
Not to mention that you asked "Substance?" around four or five times.

Renegade
07-05-2006, 03:41 PM
Not to mention that you asked "Substance?" around four or five times.
wtf are you talking about. I asked once... :wink It was mohkay who asked like 3 times.. don't fuckin cry about it.

and in that previous post I was just clearing the air, and you go all bonkers because of a minor spelling mistake...

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 03:48 PM
Not really, I just dislike misspellings to the names of one of the greatest series ever.

And it's just plain retarded to misspell something that's been correctly spelled NINE TIMES.

Renegade
07-05-2006, 03:52 PM
lol dude, looking at Subsistence in one post, then seeing Subsistance in a completely different post, nobody is going to analyze the exact difference between them. They're the same shit and the same pronounciation. just an E instead of an A. Why do you have to make such a big deal about it? Honestly, who gives a shit.

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 03:57 PM
It's not the same shit, it's spelled differently. You just contradicted yourself. =D

Renegade
07-05-2006, 04:37 PM
^ you're an idiot.. seriously. Making such a big fucking fuss about the most minor spelling mistake. It's hardly even a fucking spelling mistake since it's just a name of a video game. Stop trying to act like a fucking 4th grade english teacher and get over it.

Hangatýr
07-05-2006, 04:46 PM
^ you're an idiot.. seriously. Making such a big fucking fuss about the most minor spelling mistake. It's hardly even a fucking spelling mistake since it's just a name of a video game. Stop trying to act like a fucking grade 4 english teacher and get over it.
I'm the idiot because I have decent spelling and grammar? Right-o.

Comic Book Guy
07-05-2006, 07:20 PM
Can we get back on topic please?

Any arguments on Itachi's behalf? I don't see how he can win.

Freija
07-05-2006, 07:33 PM
Vergil so easily it cannot be explained >_>

Comic Book Guy
07-05-2006, 07:35 PM
Vergil so easily it cannot be explained >_>

And this is coming from a poster who's name is Uchiha Itachi.

Well, DT alone gives a hell of an advantage to Vergil. We add on the skill of the Yamato. . .

Azure-kun
07-05-2006, 07:39 PM
Vergil so easily it cannot be explained >_>

And this is coming from a poster who's name is Uchiha Itachi.

Well, DT alone gives a hell of an advantage to Vergil. Wee add on the skill of the Yamato. . .


I hope YOU didn't vote for Itachi.:huh

Renegade
07-05-2006, 09:20 PM
I'm the idiot because I have decent spelling and grammar? Right-o.
No, you're an idiot because you make the biggest deal about the smallest thing.

Countach
07-05-2006, 09:21 PM
there is no need for flaming

Mukuro
07-05-2006, 09:55 PM
Lol...what the...?

Vergil would absolutely finish Itachi. Itachi most likely has nothing that can even harm Vergil...nothing at all.

Whitewash in favour of Vergil and nothing less.