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Unrequited Silence
06-27-2006, 02:19 PM
I was seriously thinking about this..Who is stronger..Enel or Crocodile..

I think Crocodile and Enel would be =...Sand doesnt conduct electricity either...I think Enel was crazy strong as well..Not many people would be able to stand up to Enel on the blue sea..What do you think

crazymtf
06-27-2006, 02:22 PM
Enel, duh...haha...yeah....

Suzumebachi
06-27-2006, 02:43 PM
I believe that Crocodile is stronger than Enel.

d.Lughie
06-27-2006, 02:43 PM
Tough choice.. but I think.. its Enel.. but I dunno..

Enel should be way faster..

Can croc sux the water outta Enel?? I don't think its possible.. cuz Enel's Logia.. but then.. I dunno..

Masaki
06-27-2006, 02:43 PM
Sand is made mostly out of Silica, which is also known as Silicon Dioxide. Silica is made out of two non-metals. Only metals can conduct electricity effectively. Crocodile, sadly, wins.

Unrequited Silence
06-27-2006, 03:12 PM
Exactly I was thinking of Glass..Glass doesnt conduct electricity..But he might be able to heat Corcodile up and turn him into a big mirror haha

Grrblt
06-27-2006, 03:17 PM
How exactly does sand not conducting electricity give Croc the win? Sand can't harm electricity. Especially not when it uses Mantra.

Hype
06-27-2006, 03:22 PM
How exactly does sand not conducting electricity give Croc the win? Sand can't harm electricity. Especially not when it uses Mantra.


Personally I would say Enel

Croc weakness is water , liquid. If we encounter a character whos ability is water based then hes screwed.

Enel only weakness is rubber and unless your luffy or stretch armstrong your not going to take him down.

Ifurita's Fan
06-27-2006, 04:04 PM
Croc is stronger.. all the way.

Not even touching on Croc's sand powers yet... he's shown that he trained long and hard. The only reason that croc lost was that Luffy is one lucky and tenacious person. Enel has neither the luck, nor the tenacity that luffy has.

Also, Enel is overconfident... that'll get you every time. Croc, he had backup after backup.

Now, talking powers... he's able to assume the form of sand... an insulator, not a conductor. In fact silica is a damnfine insulator.

So enel could huck lightning at him all day to no effect... all that croc would need to do is touch him once, and turn him into a mummy.

It'd be a short battle, mostly because the second that croc drained enel dry it'd be over.

Supa Swag
06-27-2006, 04:34 PM
They probably wouldnt even be able to touch other, with Enel's mantra and electric body and Croc's sand body.

I say draw, though I would lean toward Enel if I had to choose one person.

MasamuneX7
06-27-2006, 05:46 PM
Croc is stronger.. all the way.

Not even touching on Croc's sand powers yet... he's shown that he trained long and hard. The only reason that croc lost was that Luffy is one lucky and tenacious person. Enel has neither the luck, nor the tenacity that luffy has.

Also, Enel is overconfident... that'll get you every time. Croc, he had backup after backup.

Now, talking powers... he's able to assume the form of sand... an insulator, not a conductor. In fact silica is a damnfine insulator.

So enel could huck lightning at him all day to no effect... all that croc would need to do is touch him once, and turn him into a mummy.

It'd be a short battle, mostly because the second that croc drained enel dry it'd be over.

Crocodile is not stronger all the way. Croc's trained long and hard, but so has Enel. He was just as versatile in his attacks as Croc was, perhaps even moreso. On the contrary, comparing Croc-Luffy and Enel-Luffy does not work in your favor. Crocodile had no weakness to Luffy's powers. Luffy beat him with luck and determination. Croc could barely do anything to Luffy when he was soaked with blood, a weakness of Croc's. Enel had a huge weakness to Luffy's powers. Luffy beat him with luck and determination. Barring the huge handicap Enel had against Luffy, Luffy still had a hard time defeating him due to his mantra and alchemy.

You are however, correct about Enel being too overconfident and Croc being more calculating.

When you talk about powers, you assume that Croc will be in his logia form since sand would be a great insulator for electricity. However, you do not assume that Enel would also be in his logia form. Taking your logic, Enel would roast Croc alive if he were in his human form, just like you assumed Croc would dehydrate Enel in his human form. If both were in logia form, sure sand is a great insulator, but what exactly can sand do to harm electricity? Nothing. Electricity cannot be dehydrated either. In logia form, seeing as how sand can do literally nothing to electricity, while a high temperature current can reduce sand to fine glass, electricity >> sand. Plus, Enel has mantra.

(Note: The temperature of the plasma surrounding a lightning bolt can exceed that of the sun's surface)

Enel was overpowered. While in logia form, Luffy is technically the only one who can harm him without using kairouseki (seastone). Mihawk could possibly do it as well, since it was said that he could cut through elements. If Enel lived in the Blue Sea, his bounty would be way up there.

cHaotix8
06-27-2006, 07:03 PM
If neither sand nor rubber conduct electricity than what makes you think that Eneru could heat sand up hot enough to turn Crocodile into glass and not affect Luffy? Even if that happened, we have already seen through Crocodile's training that he can even take the most dense of solids and whither them down to powder. Decompressing himself in a glass state wouldn't be a problem for him.

Of course if we're talking about initial power then Eneru wins. Electricity is one of the strongest forms of energy and sand simply can't compete with it.

Ifurita's Fan
06-27-2006, 07:39 PM
Crocodile is not stronger all the way. Croc's trained long and hard, but so has Enel. He was just as versatile in his attacks as Croc was, perhaps even moreso. On the contrary, comparing Croc-Luffy and Enel-Luffy does not work in your favor. Crocodile had no weakness to Luffy's powers. Luffy beat him with luck and determination. Croc could barely do anything to Luffy when he was soaked with blood, a weakness of Croc's. Enel had a huge weakness to Luffy's powers. Luffy beat him with luck and determination. Barring the huge handicap Enel had against Luffy, Luffy still had a hard time defeating him due to his mantra and alchemy.

You are however, correct about Enel being too overconfident and Croc being more calculating.

When you talk about powers, you assume that Croc will be in his logia form since sand would be a great insulator for electricity. However, you do not assume that Enel would also be in his logia form. Taking your logic, Enel would roast Croc alive if he were in his human form, just like you assumed Croc would dehydrate Enel in his human form. If both were in logia form, sure sand is a great insulator, but what exactly can sand do to harm electricity? Nothing. Electricity cannot be dehydrated either. In logia form, seeing as how sand can do literally nothing to electricity, while a high temperature current can reduce sand to fine glass, electricity >> sand. Plus, Enel has mantra.

(Note: The temperature of the plasma surrounding a lightning bolt can exceed that of the sun's surface)

Enel was overpowered. While in logia form, Luffy is technically the only one who can harm him without using kairouseki (seastone). Mihawk could possibly do it as well, since it was said that he could cut through elements. If Enel lived in the Blue Sea, his bounty would be way up there.
Actually I'm not assuming enel would stay human at all. I'm assuming that he'll be an overconfident doink and pay for it when he let's croc take a free shot at him.

But to explain, theoretically, lets say that they're both in logia form fighting.

Since Enel's logia form is purely an electrical charge in human form... he does not have physical substance (except as an over abundance of free electrons) That said, this is where the arogance comes into play.

He'd likely give Croc the first shot, and croc's sand attack would utterly imobilize him. Why? Because, for electricity to "flow" (I won't get into hole theory) it requires a conductive path.

If Croc seperates him into two halves (or more pieces) and then isolates those from each other with a barrier of sand... the fight would end there.

Why?

Because at that point, croc has effectively imprisoned him. Electricity requires a path of conductance to flow. Silica glass has no conductance.

Without such a path, an electrical charge exists only as a point or field of charge (such as held by a capacitor.. and measured in farads
C(farads)= Q/E (coulombs over volts)
with a farad equal to 6.28*10 ^18 electrons. Which is, let me tell you, one hell of a charge.

Enel appears to use the natural conductance that the molecules held in suspension in the air provides (it has a conductive value)... However. silica or sand does not (silica glass is in fact one of the most non conductive materials there are, and it is only by a process of doping it with materials like Arsenic, Phosphorus, bismuth, and antimony (which are pentavalent impurity atoms) do we arrive at N type semi conductors, or boron, indium, and gallium (which are trivalent impurity atoms) to create P type semiconductors

Since these materials are likely not going to be found in sand naturally, it's likely that Enel, once seperated, would have a hard time putting himself back together (since he can't resume human form or he'd go splutch!, and he can't move around while encased in sand.)

Croc on the other hand has none of these problems.
He can seemingly create unlimited quantities of sand, and could therefore seperate Enel into two or more pieces and entomb those pieces in sand... moving them far enough apart that enel would have a real chore in putting himself back together.

If Croc has any knowledge of capacitors things could get very sticky for Enel. A couple conductive plates with a silica fill between them and it's instant capacitor... which would lock Enel up for a good long while.

cHaotix8
06-27-2006, 08:12 PM
Actually I'm not assuming enel would stay human at all. I'm assuming that he'll be an overconfident doink and pay for it when he let's croc take a free shot at him.

But to explain, theoretically, lets say that they're both in logia form fighting.

Since Enel's logia form is purely an electrical charge in human form... he does not have physical substance (except as an over abundance of free electrons) That said, this is where the arogance comes into play.

He'd likely give Croc the first shot, and croc's sand attack would utterly imobilize him. Why? Because, for electricity to "flow" (I won't get into hole theory) it requires a conductive path.

If Croc seperates him into two halves (or more pieces) and then isolates those from each other with a barrier of sand... the fight would end there.

Why?

Because at that point, croc has effectively imprisoned him. Electricity requires a path of conductance to flow. Silica glass has no conductance.

Without such a path, an electrical charge exists only as a point or field of charge (such as held by a capacitor.. and measured in farads
C(farads)= Q/E (coulombs over volts)
with a farad equal to 6.28*10 ^18 electrons. Which is, let me tell you, one hell of a charge.

Enel appears to use the natural conductance that the molecules held in suspension in the air provides (it has a conductive value)... However. silica or sand does not (silica glass is in fact one of the most non conductive materials there are, and it is only by a process of doping it with materials like Arsenic, Phosphorus, bismuth, and antimony (which are pentavalent impurity atoms) do we arrive at N type semi conductors, or boron, indium, and gallium (which are trivalent impurity atoms) to create P type semiconductors

Since these materials are likely not going to be found in sand naturally, it's likely that Enel, once seperated, would have a hard time putting himself back together (since he can't resume human form or he'd go splutch!, and he can't move around while encased in sand.)

Croc on the other hand has none of these problems.
He can seemingly create unlimited quantities of sand, and could therefore seperate Enel into two or more pieces and entomb those pieces in sand... moving them far enough apart that enel would have a real chore in putting himself back together.

If Croc has any knowledge of capacitors things could get very sticky for Enel. A couple conductive plates with a silica fill between them and it's instant capacitor... which would lock Enel up for a good long while.


That and he could pretty much sufficate him if he managed to cage him in a dense ball of sand. I'm sure you'll still need oxygen if you're a big mass of electrical energy. Though if you wont it'll bring up a whole new topic of discussion for logia powers. (Except fire, no oxygen, no burn)

Unrequited Silence
06-27-2006, 11:21 PM
Im glad this is turning out to be a good debate..I relatively felt these two were equal in power..

Tsuuga
06-28-2006, 01:05 AM
Ifurita's Fan convinced me... Sir Crocodile for the win, I guess.

Kisame
06-28-2006, 03:45 AM
Always thought Eneru was stronger.

And he came later for a reason.

Eneru was uberly overpowered.

That logia fruit should be nerfed.

Wrath
06-29-2006, 11:58 AM
Feh, Eneru had a really powerful Devil Fruit, yeah, but he was freaking lucky that he was in the perfect environment where he could reshape the landscape and charge up super clouds. Eneru lost to the first person who came along capable of actually hurting him.

If Luffy had fought Eneru on the ground, the fight would have been over in a couple of minutes. Given a neutral environment, Crocodile should win. Only if you give him the advantages of the gold and special clouds would he be able to win.

Anemone
07-04-2006, 02:20 AM
I think Enel is stronger, but I can't say for sure! But I am pretty sure Enel is!

Geese
07-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Crocodile would beat Enel in a fight as sand is an insulator but let's face it, Enel's fruit is practically unstoppable. Enel is "stronger" (I should say more effective) but Crocodile would defeat Enel if they were to fight one another.

yangxu
07-07-2006, 02:51 PM
Enel should win once he starts bleeding, 'cause Crocodile can't really avoid anything with liquid on it...

kombak
07-08-2006, 01:12 PM
The thing i like in one piece , we can not say "He beat X , he loses to Z , so Z > X"

Every charactere is different
Ok there are some different sort of powers (logia , paramecia ,....) but ya know...

Who could beat enel? duno....but could enel beat smoker?

Right now if u ask me , whos the stronger i may say aokiji....the only one u doesnt fear water.... i think > enel , > crocodile ....

but? Ace would nomatch Aokiji , very easy.... fire >>> ice


Everyone is different , i like this :p