Is The Art in 1piece Good, Bad or something in Between? State ur reasons or be neg/fl

[Cthulhu-versailles]

If you need to talk about stuff further in the series, arabasta arc and past, put spoilers.

-If you can't handle or be rational about the topic leave. :)
-How you find the art stylistically would also be releveant in here.
-For the one piece uber fanatics, please attempt to see past your love of one piece and rate the art objectively.:notrust
-Don't just run up in here and say 1p> all, EVERYONE KNOWS THIS, contribute to the topic dammit. :nod

I rate the art as average.
I find one piece's style has a very america cartoon drawn style.
Anyway, I find for the most part, the chracters are drawn okay. People like Pell, Sanji and Crocodile look pretty good. However, others like Luffy ad Ussop just look poorly drawn, relatively often. OMg and I love Ussop to, but common the guy looks... Others like Nami and Zoro look okay. That is not to say they are not badass. Given that Nami is clearly the most badass of all the characters. :nod

Anyway, as far as the backgrounds and stuff go, I again find it does not look that good and tends to lack detail and or fine tuning. Meh. In the end it doesn't really matter, but I am curious to see what evryone thinks.:amazed

Your thoughts ?

[d.Lughie]

Oda's artstyle is undoubtedly brilliant its just the character STYLE that is different. Which immediately gives somewhat a bad first impression.

Oda doesn't intend to make every character looks bad-ass as like most shounen series this day. He is trying something different. To achieve the coolness or bad-assery of a scene.. he plays with angles and proportion. And he is a genius in this.

I'm a huge OP fan and a huge manga fan. I've read lots of manga, and to be honest.. at first glance.. I think the style was bad. and once I got used to it.. I thought.. the art was brilliant.

p.s: Shika.. just you wait.. the artstyle will develop.. the later arcs are "betterly" styled.. ^^

[OniTasku]

I love the style. I think Oda is a genius is crafting this unique and original style of his own. The way characters are modeled and their expressions and bodies are fitted, it's all very unique. Though, his style has definitely improved since the beginning, that's for sure (as most mangaka do).

[crazymtf]

I love the style but it could be a BIT better but for how long it's running i have no compliants so it owns! :)

[Deputy Myself]

Its an unique and brilliant style, I would never want the story to be portrayed in another style because it perfectly fits the humoristic value present in the story.

[Lord Yu]

At first I didnt like the style but as I continued to read I began to understand the artstyle.

[Tonza]

Its an unique and brilliant style, I would never want the story to be portrayed in another style because it perfectly fits the humoristic value present in the story.

Agreed. The artstyle is one of the things that make One Piece so good imo.
Maybe it's just because I've gotten used to the style though.... :huh

[Hype]

The stlye is very diffrent but its something I have never disliked about One Piece. Oda has given it his own unique touch and I hope it continues. Any who says the dont like one piece for the art is just spouting off crap imo

[Moridin]

The art style is different in one piece, its much more stylized than other mangas tend to be. I've never had a problem with it; its fun, quirky and fits the tone of the story nicely...so yeah, i like it :D

[Hitomi_No_Ryu]

I say it doesn't matter!

Once you get into the story, the art style becomes a part to it! You can't look at the art style without thinking about the story quality behind it!

[Gyroscope]

The later arcs is where its at.
The characters in the earlier arcs lacked Visual appeal. The backgrounds were allright, nothing to fawn over. Alabasta onwards, it just got spectacular. Oda really excels at drawing backgrounds and keeping them consistent. This is where i believe Bleach and Naruto come short on. Characters have developed a lot more. Luffy and the others look far cooler than they did back when they were introduced.

What i love about Oda is the way he draws perspective. The angles at which the scenes are drawn really give the "Holy Shit" feel to it, especially during fight scenes.

It wasn't all that great during the first few arcs, but right now, i really love Oda's style.

[Ifurita's Fan]

I think that from an artistic standpoint, that the character art is not all that great. The characters are very simplistic in overall shape and form, and they're more like 70's and 80's anime styles. I'm thinking Lupin the 3rd sort of thing.

Compare his art to someone like say... Kosuke Fujishima (the mangaka of Ahh Megamisama!) and there's a startling difference. And yes, I am a bit biased for my BF's sake because he's a total fan of Fujishima.

For example.
compare this
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8148/mygoddess2800x6006bu.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mygoddess2800x6006bu.jpg)
with this
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7546/onepiecefde3pr.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiecefde3pr.jpg)
They're both fairly representative examples of their comparitive skills.

However, in a side by side comparison...Fujishima's characters are simply stunning, and the beauty of his art is breathtaking in comparison to the art of one piece. They're on two entirely different levels.

However, from a creative standpoint, Oda is pretty much on a very very short list of the most creative mangakas. Each of his "cartoony" characters is fun, unique, and distinctive in their personality.

My bf (who isn't much of a fan of the OP series) said it reminded him of this Sergio Aragones' style.
http://www.groo.com/
Now, I'd had no real exposure to this Sergio guy... so I didn't really know what to expect. But I can kinda see the comparison.

The thing is, you can't judge the whole of the work by just the character art...the scenes, and the background, the dramatic angles used, and the attention to detail in One Piece is also part of the art. So I'll give it a good.

However, if the characters were better though... it wouldn't be One Piece.

[Dark Schneider]

Personally, I think it's okay--sure the art is "unique", but the story is mediocre at best( another topic entirely). One thing really irks me off with Oda's art, is the fact that all the females look the fricken same :yell. Crap, I have confused Nami with the Princess Chick, and all most other females that have been introduced.

Off topic: But I really really really dislike some of CLAMPS art ( Angel Sanctuary in particular), it's so messy. All the characters and backgrounds are "blurred" together if that makes any sense.

[escamoh]

When I first watched OP, like some other's here, I thought the art was really weird...but the more I watched the show and got used to it I realized Oda's art was really unique and now I think it's very fresh and original.

I'm also kinda sick how most artists these days try to make their characters look cool and badass but then all the characters end up looking the same...just with different hair and stuff.

[Toffeeman]

It's brilliant, and fits the overall theme of the series perfectly.

[Tsuuga]

Personally, I think it's okay--sure the art is "unique", but the story is mediocre at best( another topic entirely). One thing really irks me off with Oda's art, is the fact that all the females look the fricken same :yell. Crap, I have confused Nami with the Princess Chick, and all most other females

That's one of the problems I've had, too. The females really look alike. But since you don't even know Vivi's name I'm not sure I can trust your judgment about the story's value.

Anyhow, I find the art in the manga to be really good, but sometimes the anime looks a little shoddy. Sometimes I think the proportions are a bit too stylized (like people's profiles look weird all the time), but hey, it gets the story across fine.

[Basic_Naruto]

the first time i watched one piece i was like what the hell?! what's up with the crappy drawings? still, i continued to watch, and i started to get used to the style, and now i just think it's a brilliant art style that completely complements and fits both the anime and the manga.

[Sprint]

It has its own style, so its great.

[Sunuvmann]

Well it isn't like OMG! THAT LOOKS LIKE A DEAD ON DRAWING TO REAL PEOPLE! But that isn't his style, his style is much more cartoonish. Many of the characters are given exaggerated features but that is to highlight what is unique about them.

- Sanji: Rediculously long legs, but thats to show for his kicking
- Ussop: Long nose, to highlight him being a liar
- Nami/Vivi/Robin: Large breasts, I dunno he prolly likes em that way :P

But the point is, his drawing style is not to be dead on realistic, its meant to have that fantastic feel to it and convey the story which is godly.

[Metalvirus]

My opinion? They are perfect for his story. And I really like the way they look too. He can draw them both extreamly funny, and extreamly badass as well. Such as here,

http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceManga/onepiecechapter278.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5337

But, I feel no art is perfect, and there is always room for improvement. Even though Oda's art is one of my favorites.

[Molekage]

i feel that the art is best described as unique. the art doesn't put people off because its particularly bad, but rather because it is different. personally, i love the style.

[Dark Schneider]

That's one of the problems I've had, too. The females really look alike. But since you don't even know Vivi's name I'm not sure I can trust your judgment about the story's value.

Anyhow, I find the art in the manga to be really good, but sometimes the anime looks a little shoddy. Sometimes I think the proportions are a bit too stylized (like people's profiles look weird all the time), but hey, it gets the story across fine.


Names are irrelevant, for I am reallly bad at remembering names. The fact that I know Nami's name is a wonder :P. I have read approximately 330 chapters of the manga. I don't understand the hype. Sure I'll read a bit of it every now and then, but I don't find it to be the one of the "greatest" shounen manga, as many like to put it.

By the way, looking back through the scanlations, Vivi's name was translated at least to two other names "Bebe" and something else...

[Aman]

I love them, but they're not perfect. :)

Voted for the second option. :amuse

[Ifurita's Fan]

Names are irrelevant, for I am reallly bad at remembering names. The fact that I know Nami's name is a wonder :P. I have read approximately 330 chapters of the manga. I don't understand the hype. Sure I'll read a bit of it every now and then, but I don't find it to be the one of the "greatest" shounen manga, as many like to put it.

By the way, looking back through the scanlations, Vivi's name was translated at least to two other names "Bebe" and something else...
While I understand your original sentiment, I think 300 pages about puts you in vol 3 out of 42 volumes.

Shika (the starter of the thread) was in much the same vein as you opinion-wise about the story at that point as well. He stuck it out, past the Arlong park arc, and that's when things explode and the story really starts moving.

Once the crew hits the Grand line things really take off, but the initial parts of the first 7 or so volumes have consequence later in the story. The slow build up was needed to firmly establish how manic things become later.

Still, artwise, One piece's art is pretty unique in the sense of not copying anyone else. There's a hundred manga out there that all use the same styling, but none are like One Piece. But Unique doesn't mean "fabulous" which is why I only gave it a good. AMS has fabulous art. OP.. good.

The one thing is, your arguments about appreciation of art tend to fall a little flat given the dubious quality/taste of your sig art. Just saying.

[Anemone]

LOL! I'll admit the art is something you need to get used to as it is a unique style! (or, so I thought at first)! But it is DAMNED good once you do!
The art is so cool, I love it all! I don't think this anime/manga would be as likeable if it was drawn any other way :nod

[Jotun]

I think that from an artistic standpoint, that the character art is not all that great. The characters are very simplistic in overall shape and form, and they're more like 70's and 80's anime styles. I'm thinking Lupin the 3rd sort of thing.

Compare his art to someone like say... Kosuke Fujishima (the mangaka of Ahh Megamisama!) and there's a startling difference. And yes, I am a bit biased for my BF's sake because he's a total fan of Fujishima.

For example.
compare this
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8148/mygoddess2800x6006bu.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mygoddess2800x6006bu.jpg)
with this
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7546/onepiecefde3pr.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiecefde3pr.jpg)
They're both fairly representative examples of their comparitive skills.

However, in a side by side comparison...Fujishima's characters are simply stunning, and the beauty of his art is breathtaking in comparison to the art of one piece. They're on two entirely different levels.

However, from a creative standpoint, Oda is pretty much on a very very short list of the most creative mangakas. Each of his "cartoony" characters is fun, unique, and distinctive in their personality.

My bf (who isn't much of a fan of the OP series) said it reminded him of this Sergio Aragones' style.
http://www.groo.com/
Now, I'd had no real exposure to this Sergio guy... so I didn't really know what to expect. But I can kinda see the comparison.

The thing is, you can't judge the whole of the work by just the character art...the scenes, and the background, the dramatic angles used, and the attention to detail in One Piece is also part of the art. So I'll give it a good.

However, if the characters were better though... it wouldn't be One Piece.

Um actually OP art looks way better than that other one you posted >.>. Imo it does not look old at all. Oda's style is new and refreshing from the typical style. The funny factor and action compatability with the OP style is awsome. At first look people are put off and I guess thats reasonable, but I think it is great. Its not realistic like some manga's try to portray. The comment on OP looking like american cartoon style doesn't make any sense. Almost all American cartoon designs are the same and do not have the flexibility that Oda's style has. That is one of the reasons I love the OP anime and manga so much. My top favorite artists from the mangas I have read are still from Berserk, One Piece and Naruto. If I had to rate among these three though, Berserk's detail is in its own league, but I prefer the fantasy cartoony One Piece :).

[Supa Swag]

I went from thinking the art was pretty crappy to absoultely loving it.

The way it's able to convey all types of emotions effectively and individualize a character (well, not really in terms of the females) makes it great.

[Continuity]

I really like the style! Am I odd for never disliking it? :amuse I think the characters are very stylistic and convey a lot of character just by the way they are drawn. I really like the backgrounds as well. It all seems very well done, which is why I'm confused when people say it's poor... Is it just they dislike the style, or am I blind? :P

[Dark Schneider]

While I understand your original sentiment, I think 300 pages about puts you in vol 3 out of 42 volumes.

Shika (the starter of the thread) was in much the same vein as you opinion-wise about the story at that point as well. He stuck it out, past the Arlong park arc, and that's when things explode and the story really starts moving.

Once the crew hits the Grand line things really take off, but the initial parts of the first 7 or so volumes have consequence later in the story. The slow build up was needed to firmly establish how manic things become later.

Still, artwise, One piece's art is pretty unique in the sense of not copying anyone else. There's a hundred manga out there that all use the same styling, but none are like One Piece. But Unique doesn't mean "fabulous" which is why I only gave it a good. AMS has fabulous art. OP.. good.

if you knew how to read, you would have seen, that I read 320 chapters not 320 pages . Which puts me roughly at volume 34 :notrust.Given that, I am qualified to judge the story line, because I have read 34 volumes out of the current 42. If you can also calculate, that would be approximately 81% of the present storyline.Get your facts straight! :yell


The one thing is, your arguments about appreciation of art tend to fall a little flat given the dubious quality/taste of your sig art. Just saying.

My art preference has nothing to do with the choice of my sig. I chose 3 random eggs, which hatched into the 3 present images, because they were made to be "artistically unappealing" on purposely by CMX.

These images are jokes, dumbass. Afterall, I don't need to read them now do I?
Now, if I had to read manga in this particular art form, that would be another story.

[Wrath]

I think that from an artistic standpoint, that the character art is not all that great. The characters are very simplistic in overall shape and form, and they're more like 70's and 80's anime styles. I'm thinking Lupin the 3rd sort of thing.

Compare his art to someone like say... Kosuke Fujishima (the mangaka of Ahh Megamisama!) and there's a startling difference. And yes, I am a bit biased for my BF's sake because he's a total fan of Fujishima.

For example.
compare this
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8148/mygoddess2800x6006bu.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mygoddess2800x6006bu.jpg)
with this
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7546/onepiecefde3pr.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onepiecefde3pr.jpg)
They're both fairly representative examples of their comparitive skills.
Those are not "fairly representative examples of their comparative skills". That's comparing the "worst" aspect of One Piece's art with a picture that has very little in common with it. At least use a picture with multiple characters. That's an apple and an orange.

Anyway, to everyone else, if you think Oda doesn't have skills then you just aren't paying attention.

He uses light and darkness as well as almost anyone else: http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2/chapter349bynull.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2810

His detail is fantastic: http://groups.msn.com/onepiecemangav-2/onepiece298raw.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=458

And... I'm too busy to be looking for examples of everything else he's good at.

[Geese]

Brilliant. It still amazes me how simultaneously vibrant, goofy, badass and beautiful it is. I especially love how the villains look (no "emotionless" bishounen goths). Definately not for the close-minded, though.

[Deranged]

When i first saw One Piece, i was really put off by the style of the art, i was expecting the more traditional generic style but once i got into the story (the subs as opposed to the dubs) the story really took off and the art really wasnt a problem anymore... and now, im so used to it, i can see it for what it is... unique...

and any art work can be improved in some way... nothings perfect :laugh

[Franckie]

The art is good but could be better. I think all the bases are covered as it allows for wonderful expressions and energetic frames without being hard to notice specific actions. However, it could be better in terms of decor of the environments and facial detail because some of the characters can look fairly generic at times, especially with close-ups.

[The Space Cowboy]

I just started reading One Piece, and was initially a bit put off by the pirate vessels looking absolutely nothing like their real "pirate era" vessel counterparts(Circa 1600s-1800s).

But then I realized that the point of the art is to tell the story, and it's a good story, so the art serves the purpose pretty good. The sheer expressiveness is neat