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Not A Hero
06-11-2006, 03:31 AM
I hate it when people complain about this. IMO, the fact that noone dies in One Piece adds to the overwhelming charm of the series. Seriously. It's like it's saying: "Yeah, this is a cartoon. So what?"
Umm...What do you think?:)
d.Lughie
06-11-2006, 03:44 AM
at last able to go OL here again...
anyway.. I don't really like it either about that.. but its quite true.. Pell, the most apparent reason.. I dont know why Oda keeps this character alive.. maybe he just want to bring out originality that no one dies in this manga.. but.. I dunno.. hopefully someone dies though (not in FB)... and not the crew please.. I love the crew the way it is..
wrecca
06-11-2006, 03:45 AM
Haven't there already been quite a few deaths?
Tsuuga
06-11-2006, 03:46 AM
Pell should have died. Sorry, with the intensity of the flashbacks and some of the current moments, it takes out a lot of the impact when you know that nobody will die.
EDIT: I can count the number of named character deaths on one hand. The flashbacks, however, are quite brutal and can kill anybody.
graysocks
06-11-2006, 04:52 AM
Yeah Pell should've died but i think the lack of deaths makes the few deaths in it a lot more dramatic. The violent death of Arlong was both shocking and real satisfying = P
underdogdlx
06-11-2006, 05:02 AM
I think Croc should have died like Arlong. :( but the lack of deaths doesnt particularly bother me. this way luffy leaves behind a trail of whupped enemies to attest to his strength.
graysocks
06-11-2006, 05:07 AM
Yeah but thats Luffys way. He's no murderer. If he went around killing all his enemies he could end up being perceived as a dark character which he is as far from as possible. He is as lighthearted as it gets and just does what he thinks is right in his own silly head. Like with Goku, he never actually tried to kill anyone but Frieza and he didn't even put his heart into that, just 1 shot. Would Goku still have his famous ^_^ hehehe hey guys! persona if he killed everyone who he met?
Chef Sanji
06-11-2006, 08:15 AM
I am happy to know that none of the straw hat pirate crew will ever die because they are just too hard to kill. The things that some how annoy me is that not very many of the enemies are killed. Although it's true that "luffy leaves behind a trail of whupped enemies to attest to his strength." But really some of them deserve to die... like croc for an example. Cause even though the enemies are captured by the marines (after Luffy beat them senseless of course...), but they could escape like the evil captain morgan.
Hitomi_No_Ryu
06-11-2006, 08:32 AM
I think Odachi gets too attached to his characters to want to kill them off so easily...
underdogdlx
06-11-2006, 08:36 AM
haha, a very good point, hitomi. he does put a lot of detail into them. :P
Hitotsumami
06-11-2006, 11:41 AM
Don't quote me on this, but I think I read somewhere that Oda said something like, Luffy doesn't kill anyone, but instead, shatters their dreams. He considers that a worst pain then death.
I'll try to find where I read this.
underdogdlx
06-11-2006, 11:47 AM
Don't quote me on this, but I think I read somewhere that Oda said something like, Luffy doesn't kill anyone, but instead, shatters their dreams. He considers that a worst pain then death.
I'll try to find where I read this.
sounds familiar, probably from one of the SBS corners.
Yuhara
06-11-2006, 12:01 PM
No one dies in One Piece? No one dies in Naruto. Such a huge fanbase is centered around each main character in both series, that i dont think any main characters could just "die." Besides that, i dont mind people not dieing. Actual deaths resulting in battles (few exceptions) just dosnt flow with the mood of both series. If there actualy were deaths, then One Piece and Naruto would turn into very dark series IMO, and i dont thinks thats why we tune into watch these series every week.
crazymtf
06-11-2006, 12:49 PM
^Yeah true Yuhara both series have very little death...but one piece proves you don't need death to be nice, want death watch basilisk or Gants :P
Low-fi Boy
06-11-2006, 01:25 PM
I'm pretty sure Bellamy got killed by the Flamingo guy for bringing shame to his crew. But if you're talking about major characters, yeah, no-ones dies. But that doesn't make it a bad series
Masaki
06-11-2006, 02:23 PM
Pell should have died not only because of the dramatic moment, but also because he took a suped up bomb explosion from point-blank.
Wiper should have died just because he used the reject dial three times and was slaughtered by Enel.
And Yuhara, people died in Naruto. Zabuza, Haku, Sarutobi, the Sound Five, and Hayate.
Hokage Naruto
06-11-2006, 02:38 PM
I don't think its that huge of an issue since sometimes after the Straw Hats defeat an enemy, we don't see them again or we see them again later down the road. Unlike Naruto, in some cases, were characters barely survive an arc/scene and they don't die than we see them again in the next few chapters.
A lot of Shonen Jump mangas struggle from killing off characters. Yu Yu Hakusho did an okay job with killing characters but sometimes they were brought back and that pissed me off. Kenshin killed off characters, Hunter x Hunter did, too.
crazymtf
06-11-2006, 02:43 PM
Oh my god i loved when Gankai die. Yusuke was PISSED. But he still wasn't in any shape to take out taguro, but he was SO mad, mad me pissed :P. I like that she came back, set up so you don't hate taguro so much. Now Kawabara after all the times he should of died, it got annoying and Yusuke dying a second time was really good. Oh well i thought they handled that series well with deaths, especially sensuies, my fav death, but One Piece doesn't need death to make it kick ass.
Hokage Naruto
06-11-2006, 02:57 PM
Oh my god i loved when Gankai die. Yusuke was PISSED. But he still wasn't in any shape to take out taguro, but he was SO mad, mad me pissed :P. I like that she came back, set up so you don't hate taguro so much. Now Kawabara after all the times he should of died, it got annoying and Yusuke dying a second time was really good. Oh well i thought they handled that series well with deaths, especially sensuies, my fav death, but One Piece doesn't need death to make it kick ass.
Kuwabara's death was great. I was like "Yes, no more annoying Kuwabara" but than he survived, I went crazy. I hated Sensui's death. Sensui was a great character in the show, he raped everyone in the series. He was beyond insane with the self mutilations and his power. Sensui was screwed by arc transition, he is still one of my favorite villains/characters in anime/manga.
crazymtf
06-11-2006, 03:05 PM
Kuwabara's death was great. I was like "Yes, no more annoying Kuwabara" but than he survived, I went crazy. I hated Sensui's death. Sensui was a great character in the show, he raped everyone in the series. He was beyond insane with the self mutilations and his power. Sensui was screwed by arc transition, he is still one of my favorite villains/characters in anime/manga.
I liked Kuwabara like i like Usopp, they could be funny but most of the time just plain out annoying. I really liked Sensui's death for one reason, Yusuke possed versioin just beat the living shit out of him and the othere reason was how he died, he seemed happy. I also liked how Yusuke died the second time, he was like "Goodbye" Wanting everyone to unlock there true power, and it worked, then he came back...PISSED :P It was awsome, god do i love that beatiful anime :cry Oh yeah One piece, it's awsome :)
Not A Hero
06-11-2006, 04:53 PM
Well, I mean, I hate it when people complain that somone [I]didn't[I] die. It annoys me allmost as much as like when Harry Potter fans read those longass books just to find out who dies in te end. There's a fine line between drama and melodrama, y'know...Just killing people to please the bloodthirsty fans? That's stupid. Seriously.
Suzumebachi
06-11-2006, 05:05 PM
I was so happy when I found out Pell was alive.
Anemone
06-11-2006, 07:30 PM
actually, I never really thought about it......
Nmaa, I don't really care either way...I never really hated anyone enough to wish them dead, that's the magic of One Piece :nod
Valdens
06-11-2006, 07:50 PM
Luffy wont kill similarly to how Superman wont.
SeruraRenge
06-11-2006, 10:01 PM
The only people who die in One Piece have to be one of these 3 things:
1. Be from a character's flashback
2. Not have a name (the White Berets, other ppl who died when Angel Island blew up)
3. Be Bellamy.
Luffy wont kill similarly to how Superman wont.
what do you mean? Superman has tried to kill Darkseid every time they've fought.
Some people die in Naruto. The biggest death so far in the series tho was Sandaime. He will be missed.
Masaki
06-12-2006, 10:37 AM
@Not A Hero: Pell's death would have been amazing for Arabasta's plot.
@Suzume: Same here, but it still took away the impact of the scene.
@traci: Only I'm allowed to imitate Icebarg :yell
TheMax7000
06-12-2006, 03:08 PM
What made me mad was with enel's "survival game". He worked so hard to "kill" people to make his prediction of 5(not sure of the number) people be left after 3 hours. And then after he lost to luffy, most of the people were still alive!!! WTF. Just kinda stupid to have all that build-up to kill people off and then have them stay alive.:mad
Molekage
06-12-2006, 03:25 PM
its kind of funny how much punishment people in OP can take. makes them better meat shields than say, ninjas in naruto
TenshiOni
06-12-2006, 03:30 PM
This has never really bothered me. I actually like the fact that none of the villains outside of Bellamy (he was a douche) have died. It gives them the oppurtunity to reappear later in the story.
Also, as Oda did say himself, Luffy shatters the dreams of his enemy -- much worse than death, imo.
There has only been one case where this fact has pissed me off in One Piece: Pell. The guy took a freakin' bomb -- that was going to level a city -- to the face and survived. THAT is stupid.
But I can't hate Oda-sensei for it. He makes up for it with ample amounts of consistent awesome.
Its a thing Ive gotten use to watching all three of the animes One Piece , Naruto and Bleach.
It use to bother me at first for example wehn Chouji and Nefi didnt die in Naruto and as the above person mentioned Pell not dieing after a nuke to the face. It seems that the characters have to big a fanbase these days there would be uproar if one of the main cast was to die. It something a lot of people need to adjust too just as we have.
crazymtf
06-12-2006, 04:21 PM
Basliks if you want death, i love the anime but don't get attatched to anyone because death is like the main theme of the eps.
ydraliskos
06-12-2006, 04:31 PM
Basliks if you want death, i love the anime but don't get attatched to anyone because death is like the main theme of the eps.
Basilisk had probably the best deaths in anime :( Still, that series leaves you so sad..
RockLee
06-12-2006, 04:33 PM
So what if Luffy never kills anyone? He turns them all into non-threats right after, and they can spread the word of his legendary prowess, aside from providing an amusing cover story.
Now that Mike has reminded me, what was Pell's excuse for surviving? He should have been dead.
Tapp Zaddaz
06-12-2006, 05:02 PM
The only people in One Piece can die is if they are shown in a flashback.
crazymtf
06-12-2006, 05:23 PM
Basilisk had probably the best deaths in anime :( Still, that series leaves you so sad..
Yeah i love the deaths but each one was pretty damn sad :(
Oh also Goku didn't kill one person in the whole series with his fist, did anyone relize that? NOT ONE. Spirit bomb i don't count since it was everybody's energy. :nuts
gamebreaker04
06-12-2006, 05:56 PM
The lack of deaths/brutality usually mean to casual watchers that the show isn't serious enough. To us real anime fans though, we see beyond that and appreciate its true value.
RockLee
06-12-2006, 06:03 PM
We anime fans have distinct tastes and a refinded, inherant sense of class.
Tsuuga
06-12-2006, 08:48 PM
Maybe Pell... released it into space. And dove to escape the blast radius.
ydraliskos
06-12-2006, 08:52 PM
The lack of deaths/brutality usually mean to casual watchers that the show isn't serious enough. To us real anime fans though, we see beyond that and appreciate its true value.
We anime fans have distinct tastes and a refinded, inherant sense of class.
You two need to buy me a new sarcasm detector now, are you happy?
MasamuneX7
06-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Pell not dying was a huge mistake. Also, it made not a bit of sense for him to survive an explosion of that magnitude at ground zero.
I also find it odd how Enel's Judgment and super voltage attacks are unable to kill people... like Pagaya, or Gan Fall, or all those Shandian warriors.
d.Lughie
06-19-2006, 07:05 PM
That's what makes us a little disappointed too... but Oda repays it back 100x more times.. ^^ relax..
crazymtf
06-19-2006, 07:21 PM
Still think pell's surviviing is good so i don't care :)
escamoh
06-20-2006, 03:12 PM
We anime fans have distinct tastes and a refinded, inherant sense of class.
lol thats very true :laugh.
Geese
06-20-2006, 07:09 PM
Who should have died:
Pell
Pagaya
Mr. 1
Who need not have died/is better off alive:
Crocodile
Edit: It should be noted that Oda is not afraid to kill or adverse violence or anything but rather he feels offing a character FOR GOOD leaves a bitter taste in the mouth being that they can never be used again (he said this is an SBS sometime ago). I'm sure that if Dragonballs or some sort of similar plot device that allowed for characters to come back had existed, we'd be seeing deaths all over the place (after all, Bellemere and the Oharans had pretty gruesome deaths in their respective flashback sequences).
IRNinjaBob
06-27-2006, 04:51 AM
Yeah, a lot of you take the fact of whether characters should or shouldn't die the wrong way.
By saying some characters should have indeed died, doen't mean ALL of the defeated characters should die. Like Oda said, Luffy doesn't kill his enemys, but that doesn't mean characters such as Pell, or all but the 5 who survived Enel's survival game shouldn't have died, with the excepting of a few, such as chopper, and the rest of the injured straw hat crew. In fact, the only explanation to about all of the characters from enel's surviving game being alive in the end is the fact that Enel could sense all of the island's inhabitants life sources. The only explanation for this would be that since they were brought to "close to death" situation, Enel wasn't able to sense the little life source they had left. But the one character who, no matter how much I am glad he lived, I am truely "mad" about his survival is Wiper. Wiper's impact conch is supposed to kill, or severly injure the user if they are lucky. He not only survived one blast from the conch, but three. AND HE SURVIVED ENEL'S JUDGEMENT. Some may feel that it is nice to keep the character alive, but that is just seriously too far. That just proves that it will most likely be impossible to kill off any of the characters of one piece who aren't portrayed as truely evil characters.
Demonspiritfox
07-01-2006, 07:38 PM
no one dies prob. cause they are all going to come back later in the series.
Kraker2k
07-01-2006, 08:19 PM
pell should have died, i thought he had died, when he came back i was thinking "wtf"....he carried an explosive with a 5km radus and survived, making a full recovery..thats just silly.....even by anime standards.
Marsala
07-02-2006, 08:03 PM
Yeah, a lot of you take the fact of whether characters should or shouldn't die the wrong way.
By saying some characters should have indeed died, doen't mean ALL of the defeated characters should die. Like Oda said, Luffy doesn't kill his enemys, but that doesn't mean characters such as Pell, or all but the 5 who survived Enel's survival game shouldn't have died, with the excepting of a few, such as chopper, and the rest of the injured straw hat crew. In fact, the only explanation to about all of the characters from enel's surviving game being alive in the end is the fact that Enel could sense all of the island's inhabitants life sources. The only explanation for this would be that since they were brought to "close to death" situation, Enel wasn't able to sense the little life source they had left. But the one character who, no matter how much I am glad he lived, I am truely "mad" about his survival is Wiper. Wiper's impact conch is supposed to kill, or severly injure the user if they are lucky. He not only survived one blast from the conch, but three. AND HE SURVIVED ENEL'S JUDGEMENT. Some may feel that it is nice to keep the character alive, but that is just seriously too far. That just proves that it will most likely be impossible to kill off any of the characters of one piece who aren't portrayed as truely evil characters.
Nah, Wiper's survival was cool. He was just so helluva tough that nothing could put him down. Also, we weren't "teased" with his death for very long; he always got right back up again a short time later.
Also, having the villains like Arlong, Crocodile (yes, they both survived), Mr. 1 and Enel living is okay since it makes Luffy and the Straw Hats look less bloodthirsty. It would be somehow wrong for them to kill the villains at the end of every arc.
But Pell... his survival was the absolute worst. It's not like Oda hesitates to kill off nameless characters or low-ranking villains - just ask the 100 Baroque Works agents on Whiskey Peak that Zoro killed, the poor slobs who drank the Hero's Water, or the White Berets. So there was no good reason for Pell to survive. It's not like he's ever bound to play an important role in the story again. Bad, bad, bad. I have similar feelings about Hinamori's survival in Bleach, but at least she didn't sacrifice herself for all of Soul Society and is bound to have some important role later on.
Wrath
07-02-2006, 08:56 PM
Pell has a good chance of reappearing. Oda said that a character from the past will reappear, and I think that could well be Pell, because I have to think that Oda had some reason for not letting him die.
I like that hardly anyone dies in One Piece. I was surprised that Mr. 1 didn't, but it doesn't bother me. It's just not a series where people die often.
Now, people not dying in Naruto, that's another matter, because people try to kill each other all the time. I still believe that Kishimoto intended to kill Chouji and changed his mind for some reason afterwards.
escamoh
07-02-2006, 11:11 PM
I never knew Mr.1 survived....
Kraker2k
07-03-2006, 03:48 PM
Now, people not dying in Naruto, that's another matter, because people try to kill each other all the time. I still believe that Kishimoto intended to kill Chouji and changed his mind for some reason afterwards.
he took a pill that he knew that would kill him..yet he survives....
Suzumebachi
07-03-2006, 03:56 PM
Oh wait a second. Bellamy died.
Masaki
07-03-2006, 05:16 PM
Oh wait a second. Bellamy died.
That was implied. For all we know, DeFlamingo could have stopped the attack last second.
Until we see their dead corpses, we can't be sure of any deaths.
Tsuuga
07-03-2006, 05:24 PM
If he does come back, no one will be cheering, that's for sure.
Suzumebachi
07-03-2006, 05:32 PM
It'll be a fun cover arc. "Decapitated Bellamy's Ice Cream Island!"
Delta Shell
07-03-2006, 09:43 PM
Yeah, Pell not dying was just silly imo.
You're safe in the One Piece world as long as you aren't in a flashback. If you are then fear for your life.
I'm pretty sure plenty of people died in the fighting between the Enforcers and Shandians during Alabasta, same with the Royal Army against the Rebels in Alabasta. You would have to assume a lot of people that was shown to die, are still alive. Though in regards to being said in the series, it was being stated that Zoro killed some of those Bounty Hunters in Whiskey Peak (this being said 3 times in the series), along with it being stated that Gin was going to die, I think the same with the members of the Alabastian gaurds. Well no reason to bother naming all incidents, there are quite a few.
Wrath
07-03-2006, 11:12 PM
I'm pretty sure plenty of people died in the fighting between the Enforcers and Shandians during Alabasta, same with the Royal Army against the Rebels in Alabasta. You would have to assume a lot of people that was shown to die, are still alive. Though in regards to being said in the series, it was being stated that Zoro killed some of those Bounty Hunters in Whiskey Peak (this being said 3 times in the series), along with it being stated that Gin was going to die, I think the same with the members of the Alabastian gaurds. Well no reason to bother naming all incidents, there are quite a few.Eneru slaughtered 649 militia members off-panel, the mermen were killing people in the two villages for years, Mihawk must have killed plenty of people when he destroyed Don Krieg's fleet, CP9 probably killed a bunch of people in their rampage... there are lots of deaths in One Piece, it's just most of them happen off-panel. It's just the Straw Hats who don't kill.
Tsuuga
07-04-2006, 04:13 AM
All of the priests died, I think. And that one huge guy that fought Robin... well, he probably died like a crazy beef.
Caustic
07-04-2006, 04:55 AM
Well, in some cases, the fact that everyone always comes back in some way or another annoys me. In other cases, I take solace in that fact.
For example, Pell's survival annoyed me. All that build-up for nothing.
Pajaya's (or whatever his name was) survival annoyed me, but it was amusing, so I'm willing to "forgive and forget"
In contrast, I was happy when Rolar survived Eneru's electric assault.
I will also be happy when Sodom and Gomorrah return happy and healthy.
The rest, I'm mostly indifferent to.
Delta Shell
07-04-2006, 08:17 AM
I think Zoro has probably killed a few guys here and there, the main dudes he fights never seem to "die" though. Even though he slices them to pieces, they always seem to survive.
However I bet he's killed a few no namers here and there.
Windy
07-04-2006, 11:24 AM
Yeah, Pell not dying was just silly imo.
You're safe in the One Piece world as long as you aren't in a flashback. If you are then fear for your life.
Hehe, according to a friend of mine, the best devil fruit to have would be the flashback fruit - Eating it would make you the strongest character in One Piece, since you'll actually be able to like, kill people! smile-big
yuhun
07-05-2006, 03:24 PM
Damn, not even Enel died! But its the same in Bleach no one ever dies in that either, Hinamori? Hitsugaiya? Only Hollows which don't really count as characters die.
KageMane
07-06-2006, 07:59 PM
Damn, not even Enel died! But its the same in Bleach no one ever dies in that either, Hinamori? Hitsugaiya? Only Hollows which don't really count as characters die.
Actually they dont die... Their souls are freed :laugh
Delta Shell
07-06-2006, 08:49 PM
We should make a "I survived a One Piece flashback" FC.
Or a "I actually died in One Piece" FC.
Masaki
07-06-2006, 09:23 PM
Hehe, according to a friend of mine, the best devil fruit to have would be the flashback fruit - Eating it would make you the strongest character in One Piece, since you'll actually be able to like, kill people! smile-big
But then you'd have a good chance to get killed, too.
yangxu
07-06-2006, 10:26 PM
I don't understand how these skypiea people survived when they are stroke by 1 billion volts of lightning... this is overexaggerating a person's survival capability... =/
Masaki
07-06-2006, 10:31 PM
Volts don't kill. I believe something else in electricity does, I forgot the unit.
yangxu
07-06-2006, 10:40 PM
You mean amperes or watts? Volts won't kill if it's less than 10000 I believe, but 1 billion volts is capable of frying wood to dust...
I could be wrong, but it's the current that runs through your body that can cause death. The amount of volts (and resistance of the object) would affect the current (amperes). So the amount of volts would probably matter.
kombak
07-08-2006, 12:36 PM
Didnt the woman who take care of Nami , died?
Broleta
07-15-2006, 09:51 PM
I bet Oda is still having a good laugh to this very day seeing One Piece fans go crazy at the fact he made Pell live.
Raptor
07-16-2006, 01:50 AM
Didn't everyone but Robin in Ohara died?
Didn't Berumeru-San died?
Didn't the old doctor who took care of Chopper died?
Didn't Ussop mother died?
Didn't Zoro friend died as well?
They did. so yeah people die in OP.
Falco-san
07-28-2006, 07:46 PM
Didn't everyone but Robin in Ohara died?
Didn't Berumeru-San died?
Didn't the old doctor who took care of Chopper died?
Didn't Ussop mother died?
Didn't Zoro friend died as well?
They did. so yeah people die in OP.
As said before mostly only flashbackpeople die. And offscreen people as: Slaughtered villagers and such.
And Pell, that just sucked...I mean, dont get me wrond, I loved him.
But, HE TOOK A BOMB TO THE FACE THAT HAD A BLAST RADIUS OF 5 FRIKKIN KILOMETERS!
Ahem...
It kinda destroyed his heroic sacrifice for me...
IF he apears some day, then he better have e pretty damn goo explanation for not dying :P
coolgu
07-29-2006, 01:26 AM
i like that there are no deaths it shows that this crew is different from all others, they do things there own way. most pirates are ruthless and are always killing. not killing also emphasizes the fact of their strength. it is harder to beat a person down to where they dont get back up then it is to kill them.
coolgu
07-29-2006, 01:29 AM
Didn't everyone but Robin in Ohara died?
Didn't Berumeru-San died?
Didn't the old doctor who took care of Chopper died?
Didn't Ussop mother died?
Didn't Zoro friend died as well?
They did. so yeah people die in OP.
i agree, also nami's mom died too. the thing is i think that there are deaths but they are not just there like in any story. any death is important to the story line. it shows a past or it shows how cruel the person is. i think this is why there are so few deaths that are remembered because they are not just there. you think of them in the context of the story so it goes with the time line that much better to create a great story.
Warlock1314
07-29-2006, 01:34 AM
People do die in One Piece for example
Bell mare she died to save nami and her sister. Tom died from Water 7 to protect Iceberg and Franky. The doctor who took in Chopper died see plenty of people die.
~Warlock
game2005
07-29-2006, 06:02 AM
Warlock, we already said that only people in flashbacks die, but not those in present time. Please read before you post, ok?
Warlock, we already said that only people in flashbacks die, but not those in present time. Please read before you post, ok?
It has also already been pointed out that plenty of non-flashback people have died.
Moondoggie
07-29-2006, 02:29 PM
I suppose Oda likes to keep the characters alive for another day. Maybe he has something big planned for all of them in the future other then in the side stories....
Elven Ninja
07-30-2006, 01:53 AM
what really pissed me off is when pell survived that bomb attack. that had to be the most retardest thing ever
Masaki
07-30-2006, 02:12 AM
Mr. 11 dies. And I'm sure Shura did, too.
Rokudaime
07-31-2006, 10:30 AM
I always thought that Croc is dead until one of OP cover showed Croc is still living in the prison really pissed me off.
Well the fact that they were eager to arrest him afterwards made it clear that he was live.
Xellom
08-03-2006, 12:28 AM
Gold Roger
The guy in the beginning who was shot by the meat man
The bandit in the beginning who was eaten by a fish
Zoro's friend
Nami's Mother
Usopp's Mom
Mr. 11
Sawako
08-03-2006, 12:29 AM
I hope Spandam dies.
Megadoomer
08-08-2006, 10:38 AM
Gol D. Roger
Higuma (Luffy's flashback)
The bandit that Lucky Roux killed (Luffy's flashback)
Kuina (Zoro's flashback)
Banchina (Usopp's mother) (Usopp's flashback)
Zeff's crew (Sanji's flashback)
possibly Gin (Kireg's crew, poisoned)
Belle-Mere (Nami's flashback)
Dr. Hiriluk (Chopper's flashback)
Mr. 11 (Alabasta)
Bellamy (Jaya, killed by Donquixote Doflamingo)
All inhabitants of Ohara excluding Robin (Robin's flashback)
Jaguar D. Saul (Robin's flashback)
possibly Sodom and Gommorah (Franky Family's giant Sea Kings)
Technically, Enel died as well, but his Devil Fruit allowed him to restart his heart.
Segan
08-08-2006, 11:07 AM
Pell is alive? Did I miss something?
Edit: Oh, I see...it was in chapter 217, where a doctor showed a hat that looks like the one Pell wears...
Masaki
08-08-2006, 12:22 PM
Gol D. Roger
Higuma (Luffy's flashback)
The bandit that Lucky Roux killed (Luffy's flashback)
Kuina (Zoro's flashback)
Banchina (Usopp's mother) (Usopp's flashback)
Zeff's crew (Sanji's flashback)
possibly Gin (Kireg's crew, poisoned)
Belle-Mere (Nami's flashback)
Dr. Hiriluk (Chopper's flashback)
Mr. 11 (Alabasta)
Bellamy (Jaya, killed by Donquixote Doflamingo)
All inhabitants of Ohara excluding Robin (Robin's flashback)
Jaguar D. Saul (Robin's flashback)
possibly Sodom and Gommorah (Franky Family's giant Sea Kings)
Technically, Enel died as well, but his Devil Fruit allowed him to restart his heart.
We already said people in flashbacks are liable to die.
And did you actually read/watch the anime? We damn well know Gin's alive. Mr. 11 is confirmed dead, and we're about 90% sure Bellamy's dead. Sodom and Gommarah haven't been confirmed yet.
Pell is alive? Did I miss something?
Edit: Oh, I see...it was in chapter 217, where a doctor showed a hat that looks like the one Pell wears...
You're kidding. He reappeared at his grave.
jeremycards
11-01-2006, 11:56 PM
notice than i just registered in this forum to post in this topic xD found it by luck searching pics of robin in the 7th movie, i was wondering about this for some time so i readed allll the topic xD, i can say many things
first, i dont really think Arlong dies :S
second, beyond the death or dont death of some characters, what really anoys me, its than characters like Captain Kuro are alive and free, and its stupid! i mean, yeah its true... luffy crushed kuro dream and all, but what stops him to go now and kill Kaya and everyone to take revenge? even if his plan failed he could want to take revenge :S he is a bloodthirsty kaizoku after all xD, same with Arlong, i dont think he really died, and if he didn't he could come back and make everyone slaves again =S, anyway, yeah pell survive was really retarded... plus he's not likely to come back again, i mean he's just like a guard of arabasta, and they are preety far from arabasta rigth now, but well, i was rather happy to he to survive =P another stupid survive than no1 mentioned was Conis father :S he was a NORMAL old guy, with no strenght at all, and he survived Eneru's Judgement???.......... lets remember he alreaddy killed plenty people with the judgement! or at least thats what they make you think, and that old man survived???.............. yeah well things like that are nice in the moment but retard when u think about it xD, anyway what most bothers me is than many bad guys are free and alive and can come back at any moment to take revenge, i think don krieg migth do it, same could happen with buggy but they explained he was after luffy so thats ok. anyway sorry if im bringing back an old topic xD but it really got my atention
PIB-Chaotic
11-02-2006, 03:08 AM
I'd be quite satisfied seeing just one single DF user drown to death rather than being rescued.
Jh1stgen
11-02-2006, 03:14 AM
Well .. as already pointed out ~ There are characters that died, but in terms where Luffy kills his opponents, that is not the case because Luffy doesnt believe in killing people
[Uchiha]Madara
11-02-2006, 07:54 AM
I find it cool that Eneru survived, however most of the Shandians like Kamakiri should have died.
I mean if an ordinary person receives only 220, max 300 volt...he's dead. Let's say an extraordinary person should survive 500 no more, superior ppl with extraordinary luck could maybe survive 1000-2000max. And now tell me how the fuck can some1 survive 1 000 000 000 volt? Also the others like Sanji and Zoro who received 60-100 000 000 000 volt survived...sure they didn't look well and they are uber strong but face the fact, that amount would kill anyone affected by it.
For example in begin on the lil boat where Eneru burnt Sanji and Ussop was no more than 1mil. volt and Sanji barely survived then later on Maxim arc he was hit by 30 or 60mil (can't remember) and he still survived..;wtf?!
But ok, main chars shouldn't die that easy, but Kamakiri should have died just like Pell.
Edit: Next time they face Ao Kiji I hope some1 dies. (not that I want em to die, just to be fair)
Futagokage
11-02-2006, 08:06 AM
More important that if someone die or not in OP, is if it's important.
What I mean is that even if I am 150% with the general opinion (Croc,Pell, Most Shandia should have died), the fact is that OP has shown how a great shonen manga do not depend in the quantity of death guys, but in the argument.
I really do not imagine OP with a Strw Hat Pirate dying, even in the end (but an end in which no one knows if Luffy is death or alive seems plausible, after all that is a trademark of shonen).
Why are you guys getting angry about no deaths in One Piece? It has a good story, that's all that matters.
[Uchiha]Madara
11-02-2006, 09:27 AM
I'm not angry, just gave my opinion. OP has great story, it's funny and the chars are cool, overall great anime.:)
suppai
11-02-2006, 02:51 PM
that is the one thing that erks me about One Piece. sometimes it seems like I'm watching looney toons, it's like all the characters can have an anvil dropped on thier head and be fine, it's pretty silly but doesn't go along with the serious deaths in flashbacks. other than the flashbacks no one dies. well, it's true that some minor characters died such as Mr. 11, but then he wasn't even a "minor" character, he was only shown getting shot that's it.
Madara;5849520']I find it cool that Eneru survived, however most of the Shandians like Kamakiri should have died.
I mean if an ordinary person receives only 220, max 300 volt...he's dead. Let's say an extraordinary person should survive 500 no more, superior ppl with extraordinary luck could maybe survive 1000-2000max. And now tell me how the fuck can some1 survive 1 000 000 000 volt? Also the others like Sanji and Zoro who received 60-100 000 000 000 volt survived...sure they didn't look well and they are uber strong but face the fact, that amount would kill anyone affected by it.
For example in begin on the lil boat where Eneru burnt Sanji and Ussop was no more than 1mil. volt and Sanji barely survived then later on Maxim arc he was hit by 30 or 60mil (can't remember) and he still survived..;wtf?!
What did you expect? people in one piece aren't normal
Zoro can lift a building, cut through steel, can turn shockwaves that can cut through towers in mist.
Its the same for sanji and luffy.
Anyway the only thing that i hated was pell not dying.
Hitotsumami
11-02-2006, 04:54 PM
Anyway the only that i hated was pell not dying.
Agree. Pell was the only one. I didn't care if everyone else survived, but Pell's emotional scene was destroyed when we seen him alive.
Powdered Toast Man
11-02-2006, 05:09 PM
Wiper should've died as well or at least not been able to walk...I love one piece but Wiper should've at least suffered some permanent damage to me this went beyond the whole "OP cracters are durable theme" his insides should've been reduced to mush. And after 3 reject dials he got shocked to hell by Enel.
All of skypiea had huge survival flaws; namely all the shandians and Conis' father.
jeremycards
11-02-2006, 07:12 PM
the thing about not deaths are than they make nosense to the story, its not like we're sadic people =S anyway what i still think is wrong is than some baddies can come back to take revenge to the places luffy saved after he leaves, besides the one i listed before there's wapol too, he surely survived -_-U and he could try to reclaim his kingdom again, same kuro, don krieg, arlong, etc. i think at least they should be in jail, or if they dont wanna be so violent killing them, then let the users of demon fruits drown, anyway bellmere's death was preety violent so i dont think they think about that a lot =S
one death i didnt liked, Kuina, im still hoping she's alive somehow >_< it just sucked! i mean, zoro could never beat her, she was even stronger than adult guys and she died in the lames't way of all one piece, i would be really glad if she reapears later explaining it was a farse and getting on Zoro =P it would be cool, because maybe she pretended her death to leave and train alone to prove she can be the strongest, who knows xD or maybe tashigi is Kuina with amnesia =S that should be cool too =P anyway i want Kuina alive dammit >.< ......its the one piece grand adventure fault =S i liked to use Kuina in that game
Hitotsumami
11-02-2006, 09:02 PM
^ Maybe Kuina faked her death to give Zoro more inspiration. I mean, she knew herself that she could never become the best. She was a girl, and he was a guy.
Off topic.
Anyway, I got nothing else to say. o.o
Jh1stgen
11-02-2006, 09:17 PM
You know what is very interesting? ... if Kuina lived today, she would be 21 ~ And at the same time Tashigi is 21 ... coincidence? :shifty
jeremycards
11-02-2006, 09:32 PM
i really hope its like that =P or the fake death or kuina = Tashigi amnesic, anyway tashigi is preety lame with the sword compared to zoro, nothing like Kuina, but if she is amnesic it makes sense, i hope is something like that >.< it would be just soo nice to see Kuina reapearing T-T i can't imagine how happy Zoro could be
Locard
11-03-2006, 01:22 AM
There's only one thing that prevents One Piece to become my favorite manga, surpassing Naruto.....
THE LACK OF DEATH
At least in Naruto , villains DIE
I can tolerate good guys never dying, but all the villains, even the more insignificants , surviving all the time, going to jail and appearing again pisses me off.
There are really evil and disgusting people, mass killers who deserve to die, there's no justice from heaven in One Piece?
Villains must die for crissake! specially if they mess up the life of main characters (Arlong, Spandam etc). Sorry Oda, but this is a great flaw imo.
[Uchiha]Madara
11-03-2006, 04:42 AM
What did you expect? people in one piece aren't normal
Zoro can lift a building, cut through steel, can turn shockwaves that can cut through towers in mist.
Its the same for sanji and luffy.
Anyway the only thing that i hated was pell not dying.
lol, k they are abnormal as you say (what's true btw) and yet they almost die by one hit (Sanji and Ussop at least) what wasn't even 1mil. Later on Maxim arc he got hit by 30 or 60mil and still survived, isn't there any difference?
jeremycards
11-03-2006, 06:39 PM
there's no justice from heaven in One Piece?
nah, Eneru wont give justice at all xD lol, u sound kinda sadic =p
you know whats fun? in teory, any character could die with a shot in the head xD even zoro, they allways dodge anyway, but just in teory a shot in the head could kill them =P except demon fruit's users
HaremWarrior
11-05-2006, 03:56 AM
What do you mean No One Dies? Of course they do! Most of the bad guys that Luffy and all the others fought have been "killed". Arlong, Crocodile, Enel etc. Even some of the non villians died! Kuina, Bellamera, Docter-san (choppers sags). One Piece is more about fighting for your nakama and believing in your dreams. It is by far the BEST series I'v ever watch!
Hitotsumami
11-05-2006, 10:36 AM
What do you mean No One Dies? Of course they do! Most of the bad guys that Luffy and all the others fought have been "killed". Arlong, Crocodile, Enel etc. Even some of the non villians died! Kuina, Bellamera, Docter-san (choppers sags). One Piece is more about fighting for your nakama and believing in your dreams. It is by far the BEST series I'v ever watch!
Hahahaha! Sorry, but you're only partly right.
Arlong: Alive. He was arrested by the Marines.
Crocodile: Alive. He was sent to the prison Impel Down.
Enel: Alive. He's on the moon.
And about those other characters you mentioned. They are flashback characters, and everyone knows that in flashbacks anyone can die and that is about the only time you can die.
Hahahaha! Sorry, but you're only partly right.
Arlong: Alive. He was arrested by the Marines.
Crocodile: Alive. He was sent to the prison Impel Down.
Enel: Alive. He's on the moon.
And about those other characters you mentioned. They are flashback characters, and everyone knows that in flashbacks anyone can die and that is about the only time you can die.
I don't recall anything being said about Arlong being arrested in the manga.
And flashback's are far from the only time you can die, if you look at my previous posts along with many other posters in this thread, there's been plenty of people who've died outside of flashbacks.
Senior_Superboy
11-05-2006, 02:59 PM
I think Oda mentioned in an SBS that Arlong was arrested. That's what I heard anyway.
jeremycards
11-05-2006, 08:23 PM
people dead outside flashbacks: extras, bellamy, mr 11 thats all i think =S i think its a huge change since in dragon ball z all the people on the world died more than once xD
Hitotsumami
11-05-2006, 08:33 PM
I think a priest might have died also. And Nero.
Locard
11-05-2006, 09:20 PM
I don't recall anything being said about Arlong being arrested in the manga.
And flashback's are far from the only time you can die, if you look at my previous posts along with many other posters in this thread, there's been plenty of people who've died outside of flashbacks.Just a bunch of nobodies. Show me a named villain dying.
Just a bunch of nobodies. Show me a named villain dying.
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4611
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4613
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4614
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume32.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6120
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3685/18im6.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume28.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5243
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume28.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5244
Hoon ♥
11-06-2006, 10:56 PM
i love it when i spoil myself :pleased
but yah, i too hate it when BAD guys dont die :P
Locard
11-07-2006, 02:39 AM
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4611
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4613
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume24.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4614
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume32.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6120
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3685/18im6.jpg
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume28.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5243
http://groups.msn.com/OnePieceMangav-3/volume28.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5244
-The guy that bellamy killed is, indeed, a nobody
-Can we be sure that Bellamy is dead? we never saw the final blow or the corpse.
-I dont see Ms. monday dying
It seems that the only named villain who died was that priest.
Again, no one important.
I could go on, but as I see, it would've been pointless to have done so. You might as well say no one is important but the main characters, and it's not too common for the main character to die in a shounen early on.
omg laser pew pew!
11-07-2006, 02:58 AM
Well if people started falling down stairs then there might be more deaths
omg laser pew pew!
11-07-2006, 03:22 AM
All of the priests died, I think. And that one huge guy that fought Robin... well, he probably died like a crazy beef.
One of them survived and went to the Blue Sea, the one that fought Chopper
The other survived (I'm 90% certain) since I think we saw them celebrating after Enel's defeat
Hitotsumami
11-07-2006, 07:53 AM
The one who fought chopper is Gendatsu. I love him. ^_^
hhallahh
11-07-2006, 09:05 AM
I think the lack of deaths really hurts the dramatic qualities of the series. No matter how close they make it, by this point in time, you know no one is really going to die. The Pell example was the most egregious... and from now on, there's no reason to believe that a death scene is real at all.
Hoon ♥
11-07-2006, 11:26 AM
im on the episode hhallahh :S
he and igaram should have died :noworry
Futagokage
11-07-2006, 11:35 AM
But is not something that can be changed at this height of the manga, let's say that Usopp dies in the next arc, in the most heroical (please, fill this gap with our imagination) way possible, being a true brave warrior of the sea. Even if the idea is appealing, many fans would be upset by the result.
Now change usopp foe Sanji or Robin to make a different effect...
narutosushi
11-07-2006, 05:32 PM
well if someone dies it's going to be I bet at like the last 50 episodes of One Piece so it's going to be awhile.
Hitotsumami
11-07-2006, 06:28 PM
im on the episode hhallahh :S
he and igaram should have died :noworry
I forgot all about Igaram. Yeah, he should have also died.
Senior_Superboy
11-07-2006, 06:34 PM
Maybe Robin let him live, like she did with Luffy. Who knows. Maybe it was a diversion of hers. That's what I always thought. Because we all know she isn't a bad person.
jeremycards
11-07-2006, 07:22 PM
true, the igram survival was a good thing because luffy said "im never gonna forgive her for that" but since he survived she could join the crew, instead, the one who should have died is conis father -_-
Captain Pimp
11-07-2006, 08:15 PM
Pell is the major character that many people would want him to die...as a hero :D
Locard
11-07-2006, 08:50 PM
Yup, cause Pell's resurrection was particulary fuckin retarded.
Senior_Superboy
11-07-2006, 10:22 PM
It was a bad idea to keep Pell alive. I agree with Pip when he said that he should have just died as a hero. I wonder what happened after he saw his grave. Do you think he went back to the palace?
Hoon ♥
11-07-2006, 10:24 PM
its for kids though right?
Senior_Superboy
11-07-2006, 10:26 PM
Yeah, but does that even matter?
Hoon ♥
11-07-2006, 10:33 PM
of coarse it does xD
have you seen kidsWB shows? villains dont die, theyre either fried, jailed, or blasted off into space :rotfl :nod
Shiron
11-07-2006, 10:49 PM
of coarse it does xD
have you seen kidsWB shows? villains dont die, theyre either fried, jailed, or blasted off into space :rotfl :nod
There's a difference between the US and Japan though; in Japan, people can die in kids series (which they do in ones like Naruto, One Piece (if only in flashbacks, D. Gray-Man, Death Note, 666 Satan ect. (all of which are/were published in the same magazine, Weekly Shonen Jump) Then there's ones like Fullmetal Alchemist, which isn't in the same magazine, but is targeted at the same age group).
Hoon ♥
11-07-2006, 10:58 PM
isnt that because those are directed at adults also?
i mean, in US, which man would watch "cartoons" in his prime?
in Japan, its normal :nod right? :ninja
Shiron
11-07-2006, 11:11 PM
isnt that because those are directed at adults also?
i mean, in US, which man would watch "cartoons" in his prime?
in Japan, its normal :nod right? :ninja
Nope, just kids.
And from what I've heard, it's definitely wouldn't be normal for adults to watch series like Fullmetal Alchemist and D. Gray Man (at least no more normal than it would be for adults to watch cartoons here in the US).
Hoon ♥
11-07-2006, 11:15 PM
well thats completely different from what i knew :S
im too gullible :/
OT: when does sogeking appear? :spaz
Senior_Superboy
11-07-2006, 11:42 PM
He appears at the end of 257.
Hoon ♥
11-08-2006, 01:48 AM
well this thread has become a spoiler :/
now i know nobody will die
kind of kills it for me :/
Senior_Superboy
11-08-2006, 01:51 AM
Well, it's too be expected. We are discussing old episodes that were released quite some time ago. If you didn't want to be spoiled you should have just waited until you caught up.
Hoon ♥
11-11-2006, 12:00 AM
someone died in skyland! :omg
Hoon wins.
Kunoichi no Kiri
01-30-2007, 01:51 PM
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/153/pellwn9.jpg
I was thinking: Wow, they finally killed off a character, even if it is a minor one.
This guy was holding a bomb with a 5km destructive radius when it went off. Assuming it was set to detonate at ground level, that's a 1.2 megaton nuclear warhead. He's fricking GONE.
But no, he's still alive later, wow, lol. What the hell.
No wonder Luffy's so strong, he knows he's immortal.
Masaki
01-30-2007, 02:14 PM
Blue!!!!!!
I would have thought better of you. There's a thread with almost this exact same name somewhere.
And an important "character" "dies" later on.
Nice Gai
01-30-2007, 02:14 PM
You need to see all the people who survived in the Skypeiea arc. Now that was ridiculous.
lol, are you watching through OP for the first time, Blue? Expect to feel the same way multiple times during the Skypiea arc.
But Pell's survival was still the worst of the worst.
Chill out, One Piece is an anime ment to be relaxing and funny. It's nothing serious if you haven't noticed. Luffy throws people km's away with one punch and all that stuff so I don't really care if nobody dies (some do) because it's a comedy anime.
I never noticed
Its a common theme for One Piece one of the few shiity points of the manga but the pro's far out weigh the negatives so its all good.
Oda just seems to like it that way hes very adament about Luffy not killing anyone he fights
rockst☆r sin
01-30-2007, 02:20 PM
We even have a character that even after death, is very much alive thanks to a DF. I'm not complaining though since this is OP, but if this was another story I would be bored of the outcome all the time.
I dont mind it if the bad guys dont die as it gives them a chance to exact revenge aka Alvida and Buggy
Hell I would kill to see Croc come back at some point
Pell should be dead end of story though
Kevintju
01-30-2007, 02:25 PM
That what-was-his-name-again-eagle-guy was too minor a character to deserve a heroish death.
But these people really did die though:
Kuina
Belle-Mère
Hiriluk
Jaguar D. Saulo
Tom
Gol D. Roger (maybe not dead for plothole)
That what-was-his-name-again-eagle-guy was too minor a character to deserve a heroish death.
But these people really did die though:
Kuina
Belle-Mère
Hiriluk
Jaguar D. Saulo
Tom
Gol D. Roger (maybe not dead for plothole)
Bellamy is virtually a cert too
The problem is that all of those died in flashbacks. No one in the main story has died so far except for maybe Arlong, maybe Bellamy, and maybe CP9.
Nice Gai
01-30-2007, 02:29 PM
OMG how many times did ViVi's male friend get shot I was like dude just die. HE should be dead too end of story.
Lastier
01-30-2007, 02:30 PM
Nobody ever dies in One Piece, not even the villains.
OMG how many times did ViVi's male friend get shot I was like dude just die. HE should be dead too end of story.
Kouza was all plot if he died that would of ment the war would on continued and we would have a Alabasta loop arc for years
Nice Gai
01-30-2007, 02:32 PM
Kouza was all plot if he died that would of ment the war would on continued and we would have a Alabasta loop arc for years
I know that politics stuff but seriously. Everytime he got shot he got right back up. I understand the plot but come on. I was oh yeah he is dead then I was like WTF!
At least the loop arcs would be better than Skypeiea.
martryn
01-30-2007, 02:38 PM
It's nothing serious if you haven't noticed.
Tell that to the Battledome losers.
Toffeeman
01-30-2007, 02:43 PM
But these people really did die though:
Kuina
Belle-Mère
Hiriluk
Jaguar D. Saulo
Tom
Gol D. Roger (maybe not dead for plothole)
You left out Mr 11 and Bellamy, who both died during the main plot.
Vegitto-kun
01-30-2007, 02:43 PM
Worse is that girls father in skypea that got blasted by enels beam of doom that evaporates earth.
he then comes back with not even a scratch somehow.
Enel said he killed all his helpers after they finished his boat thing, in the end they all survived.
reject dail(?) = dead after two times, even something about torn body, that stupid stubborn idiot used it like 6 times.
then he got up O_o
Masaki
01-30-2007, 02:47 PM
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106410
:mad :mad :mad
Vegitto-kun
01-30-2007, 02:49 PM
someone died in skyland! :omg
Hoon wins.
Who? o_O :oh
Kunoichi no Kiri
01-30-2007, 03:00 PM
Chill out, One Piece is an anime ment to be relaxing and funny.
I'm CALM MOTHER#$&^ER
No, but seriously, that's all well and good - but if that's the case, why make a serious situation out of Vivi's feelings for Pell?
And why put him in a situation where he should have been vaporized, never mind killed?
I would have thought better of you. There's a thread with almost this exact same name somewhere.
Mine is better.
I'll merge later
Ishin Shishi
01-30-2007, 03:12 PM
It never bothered me. I see it more as an interesting quirk rather than as pandering to the fans.
Vegitto-kun
01-30-2007, 03:14 PM
I'm CALM MOTHER#$&^ER
No, but seriously, that's all well and good - but if that's the case, why make a serious situation out of Vivi's feelings for Pell?
And why put him in a situation where he should have been vaporized, never mind killed?
Mine is better.
I'll merge later
Oda sucks too much to let his characters die
I can image jaguar and such still being alive
rockst☆r sin
01-30-2007, 03:49 PM
Oda sucks too much to let his characters die
I can image jaguar and such still being alive
Word, I still feel like Ao Kiji didn't kill his friend, but because of plot holes they won't reveal that at this time.
Kevintju
01-30-2007, 04:04 PM
You left out Mr 11 and Bellamy, who both died during the main plot.
Yeah, I missed a few very minor characters there.
(wtf is Mr 11? :huh Never mind me, I don't need to know this Mr 11 guy)
Toffeeman
01-30-2007, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I missed a few very minor characters there.
(wtf is Mr 11? :huh Never mind me, I don't need to know this Mr 11 guy)
Wow, someone pays attention.. :notrust
p0ltergeist
01-30-2007, 06:34 PM
If I recall correctly, a couple marines shot themselves in the head at the behest of Morgan (manga only).
I know T3T well i guess they are all awesome 83
Who? o_O :oh
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/38/onepiecev26091nullmz9.png
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9633/onepiecev26092nullka0.png
At least I don't recall him coming back. Same with a few other characters like Shura who got a Reject dial to the Earth (which would've killed Enel had he not restarted his heart.)
Amatsu
01-30-2007, 10:55 PM
Pell should have died. Sorry, with the intensity of the flashbacks and some of the current moments, it takes out a lot of the impact when you know that nobody will die.
By that logic Gandalf should have stayed dead in fellowship of the ring then.
Seriously who cares? It's a friggin' anime! Just because Pell lived it doesn't ruin the experience for me. I still enjoy the story and him being alive didn't take away the emotional impact I felt when he "died"
Will123
02-02-2007, 10:33 PM
(wtf is Mr 11? :huh Never mind me, I don't need to know this Mr 11 guy)[/QUOTE]
Um... did you watch any of the episodes at Baroque Works?
and there are a few deaths on One Piece and point Naruto might have less then One Piece...
and the Pell living bit eh... I think Vivi will have her own mini arc like Coby/Koby and Buggy... and Pell has to be in it he kicks butt! :nod
Peter Griffin
02-02-2007, 11:27 PM
I hate it when people complain about this. IMO, the fact that noone dies in One Piece adds to the overwhelming charm of the series. Seriously. It's like it's saying: "Yeah, this is a cartoon. So what?"
Umm...What do you think?:)
I'd say it is a good thing. Like you said, it is a cartoon. Cartoon characters shouldn't die. It's also a comedy, probably geared toward childern more than adults.
Plus they don't have to worry about bringing characters back to life with fans go nuts over their deaths.
Broleta
02-03-2007, 05:49 AM
Oda sucks too much to let his characters die
Yeah he sucks so much he's won several prestigious manga awards, he's won a fucking Tezuka! And a volume of his manga is the highest selling graphic novel in Japan of all time.
I think it's sheer greatness how One Piece can be so great and not rely on the impact of killing characters.
Falco-san
02-03-2007, 09:21 AM
By that logic Gandalf should have stayed dead in fellowship of the ring then.
Seriously who cares? It's a friggin' anime! Just because Pell lived it doesn't ruin the experience for me. I still enjoy the story and him being alive didn't take away the emotional impact I felt when he "died"
Gandalf explained why he didnt die.
Pell was just like: "IM ALIVE LOL!! NOT A SCRATCH!!!!"
HugeGuy
02-03-2007, 10:08 AM
That what-was-his-name-again-eagle-guy was too minor a character to deserve a heroish death.
But these people really did die though:
Kuina
Belle-Mère
Hiriluk
Jaguar D. Saulo
Tom
Gol D. Roger (maybe not dead for plothole)
Hiriluk's death was one of the best moments.
natwel
02-03-2007, 10:14 AM
what's wrong with that, do you want someone to die in one piece.
Vegitto-kun
02-03-2007, 10:17 AM
what's wrong with that, do you want someone to die in one piece.
Ofcourse, not the crew ofcourse but people that SHOULD die should be dead for example sky girl's father
BandanaDan
02-03-2007, 10:28 AM
The no death is a huge charm in One Piece.
Pell better survive in Movie 8 :angry
Ooh, I never thought about that. It'd be awesome if he died in the movie.
Shuntensatsu
02-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Ohm and Shura both died no? I know Gedatsu had his little cover story for a while but I didn't remember ever seeing either of those 2 again.
How about CP9? Did we see anything showing them alive? I think a few of them were killed or perhaps I am forgetting a shot of them all still alive.
Shiron
02-03-2007, 03:06 PM
How about CP9? Did we see anything showing them alive? I think a few of them were killed or perhaps I am forgetting a shot of them all still alive.
CP9? All I have to say about them is manga cover arc-material. They're definitely not dead.
shadowlords
02-03-2007, 03:17 PM
i like the no death part of one piece because when someone actually does die the impact is that much greater such as... dr. hilruruk.... *tear*
Peter Griffin
02-04-2007, 02:38 AM
I think it's sheer greatness how One Piece can be so great and not rely on the impact of killing characters.
Very well put.
competitionbros
02-04-2007, 04:28 AM
wouldn't it be terrible if Oda was just putting us in a false sense of security so he could kill of a beloved character later on and it just sting so much more
Masaki
02-04-2007, 10:29 AM
Ohm and Shura both died no? I know Gedatsu had his little cover story for a while but I didn't remember ever seeing either of those 2 again.
How about CP9? Did we see anything showing them alive? I think a few of them were killed or perhaps I am forgetting a shot of them all still alive.
Yeah, Shura's definitly dead. Forgot about him.
Kevintju
02-04-2007, 12:02 PM
Also, everyone that lived in Ohara is dead as well, except for Nico Robin of course.
Vegitto-kun
02-04-2007, 12:26 PM
I only believe when somebody dies when you see them dead, even then you aren't sure
Podman
02-04-2007, 12:35 PM
If they Died we wouldn;t get those fun Side Story pages at the begining of each Chapter.
Will123
02-07-2007, 07:14 AM
Quite a lot of people have been said and there is more in One Piece then Naruto... :amuse
Ok I will give over 1000
Everyone in Ohara died!
All of Nico Robin's friends and family
Usopp's mum
there is quite a lot and I like it better when they don't die :oh
ElementalShinobi
02-11-2007, 01:22 PM
The first chapter someone dies, so I don't know what the statement is aying in the first place.
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