View Full Version : A-Ko vs Luffy
Ryuji Yamazaki
06-02-2006, 12:44 AM
A-ko Magami (Project A-ko) vs Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
Standard equipment.
Who wins between these anime heroes?
Bullet
06-02-2006, 01:50 AM
Luffy wins. A-Ko was really strong, but she's not all that durable and only have physical attacks to fight Luffy with, which isn't going to much to him.
Ryuji Yamazaki
06-02-2006, 03:04 AM
A-ko wins. Her superstrength is enough to tie him into knots. Without his crew to bail him out, he won't last long.
Ikari Shinji
06-02-2006, 03:08 AM
:rotfl
You actually try to compare Luffy to his crew? The only ones that even come close are Sanji and Zoro, and it's still a large margin
Luffy ftw
Bullet
06-02-2006, 04:18 AM
A-ko wins. Her superstrength is enough to tie him into knots. Without his crew to bail him out, he won't last long.
Luffy is also strong, and is more durable and faster then her in fighting. And because he's rubber, it decreases physical damage done to him.
Coaxmetal
06-02-2006, 07:14 AM
Has anyone else seen A-ko besides me and the thread poster.
A-ko wins by sheer insanity of the anime. That anime was crazy and pretty much anything could happen so I give it to A-ko hands down.
Also you have to remeber that A-ko is the daughter of superman :omg
Keollyn
06-02-2006, 03:27 PM
Is this Eiko with armbands on or off. Big Difference. If they're off, even rubber boy wouldn't last.
And why do people keep saying she's not durable enough? When's the last time you seen somebody survive explosion or trailer-off of it?
http://images.cpixel.com/piczir/d/DarkAeon/301209/darkaeonpngfsa.jpg
And she's not fast? You cover 15 city blocks in a matter of seconds and you say you're not fast... The fact that she hopscotched missiles should be enough to prove her speed... You don't HOPSCOTCH MISSILES!
Maybe she hasn't survived a direct explosion (which I wouldn't actually know. It's been a long time since I've seen PAK and I can only go by screenshots) but that doesn't make her any bit weak in the defensive department... especially when your skin isn't made to take even the trailer of an explosion. And I know she's done this a couple of times.
Not dodge, hopscotch. BIG DIFFERENCE. Dodging it is nice, but making missiles into your stairway into heaven (referring to sky) is even nicer.
Edit: Armband off = insta-win.
Well watch the movie again. And go check out the manga while you're at it.
But dodging missiles and bullets are? You sure you seen the movie or are you bullshitting?
Have you really seen the movie? I don't even have to mention her powers with the armbands on... taking them off is just a sick joke.
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I've seen and have them, nothing she's done makes me think she whould win against Luffy.
Yes I've seen the movies, A-ko is the hero and B-ko's (who's a huge crybaby) best friend, while C-ko hated A-ko for taking B-ko away from her.
Luffy still beats her with her bands off.
You have, haven't you? You know you can't watch a show with your eyes closed, right?
Now I know you haven't seen them... Biiko is the one who's trying to take crybaby Shiiko away. Looking at Project A-ko websites don't count as watching the movie.
How?
Oh and about that taking an explosion/trailer of it... Here's the "royal flush" in that debate.
http://images.cpixel.com/piczir/d/DarkAeon/301209/darkaeonwclofx.jpg
I notice you ignored the part when I asked about whether dodging missiles/bullets is more impressive than hopscotching them... Guess you folded there too, huh?
Speaking of which, can you reference episode, post scans and/or both when Luffy dodged missiles. I'm not a strong follower of that series, but I don't recall missiles being available in that series. Especially if they're trying to stay accurate with the timeline they set.
But seriously, if you prove nothing else, prove how luffy's going to beat arband-removed Eiko.
:huh She's japanese!
It's official, you haven't seen the movies. Even people who research these kind of things can find this out.
Bullet
06-02-2006, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=Keollyn]Is this Eiko with armbands on or off. Big Difference. If they're off, even rubber boy wouldn't last.
And why do people keep saying she's not durable enough? When's the last time you seen somebody survive explosion or trailer-off of it?
When have she ever survive an explosion? A-Ko loses with bands on or off.
And she's not fast? You cover 15 city blocks in a matter of seconds and you say you're not fast... The fact that she hopscotched missiles should be enough to prove her speed... You don't HOPSCOTCH MISSILES!
She doesn't fight as fast as Luffy. And Luffy dodges missiles and bullets too.
Bullet
06-02-2006, 11:13 PM
[QUOTE=Keollyn]Maybe she hasn't survived a direct explosion (which I wouldn't actually know. It's been a long time since I've seen PAK and I can only go by screenshots) but that doesn't make her any bit weak in the defensive department... especially when your skin isn't made to take even the trailer of an explosion. And I know she's done this a couple of times.
She's never done it, from what I've seen in the movies.
Not dodge, hopscotch. BIG DIFFERENCE. Dodging it is nice, but making missiles into your stairway into heaven (referring to sky) is even nicer.
That still isn't an impressive speed feat.
Edit: Armband off = insta-win.
How? If Luffy use Gear 2 she'll lose even faster.
Bullet
06-03-2006, 07:00 PM
[QUOTE=Keollyn]Well watch the movie again. And go check out the manga while you're at it.
I've seen and have them, nothing she's done makes me think she whould win against Luffy.
But dodging missiles and bullets are? You sure you seen the movie or are you bullshitting?
Yes I've seen the movies, A-ko is the hero and B-ko's (who's a huge crybaby) best friend, while C-ko hated A-ko for taking B-ko away from her.
Have you really seen the movie? I don't even have to mention her powers with the armbands on... taking them off is just a sick joke.
Luffy still beats her with her bands off.
Coaxmetal
06-03-2006, 07:12 PM
A-ko is the daughter of freaking superman! :omg
enough said :P
Bullet
06-03-2006, 07:33 PM
A-ko is the daughter of freaking superman! :omg
enough said :P
:huh She's japanese!
Bullet
06-03-2006, 08:01 PM
You have, haven't you? You know you can't watch a show with your eyes closed, right?
Nope. I'm looked at them with my eyes open.
Now I know you haven't seen them... Biiko is the one who's trying to take crybaby Shiiko away. Looking at Project A-ko websites don't count as watching the movie.
At the beginning A-ko is late for her first day at school, she walks with C-ko to school, both who are late, so A-ko uses her superspeed to get them there faster. Later they meet B-ko, who is jealous because C-ko is firends with A-ko. B-ko use to pick with C-ko back when they were kids, until A-ko came and saved her (she even saved her from a wolf).
Fast forward later, B-ko starts fights with A-ko, and so they always are late for class. After many failed attempts in beating A-ko, B-ko creates a suit that could match her in a fight. So they start fighting, until some alien people (who look like men, but are women), interrupts their battle by taking C-ko (who suppose to be a princess).
Oh and about that taking an explosion/trailer of it... Here's the "royal flush" in that debate.
That doesn't show her taking an explosion (it looks like she move just before a missle hits the airplane she's was on).
I notice you ignored the part when I asked about whether dodging missiles/bullets is more impressive than hopscotching them... Guess you folded there too, huh?
I didn't ignore it, I just don't think it's an impressive speed feat.
Speaking of which, can you reference episode, post scans and/or both when Luffy dodged missiles. I'm not a strong follower of that series, but I don't recall missiles being available in that series. Especially if they're trying to stay accurate with the timeline they set.
He took out an entire army (which had about a thousand men equiped with guns) by himself, took several explosions and still got back up fighting (some even towards the face), was hit several times with a huge axe that explodes on impact (the weapon even broke on him), he fought and defeated several characters that had superspeed, and just plenty more insane feats he has done; all of this I can prove if need be (I don't need to lie).
But seriously, if you prove nothing else, prove how luffy's going to beat arband-removed Eiko.
How bout proving how armband-removed A-ko is going to beat Luffy.
Bullet
06-03-2006, 08:02 PM
It's official, you haven't seen the movies. Even people who research these kind of things can find this out.
I've seen the movies, she's not Superman's child.:)
Keollyn
06-03-2006, 08:27 PM
Nope. I'm looked at them with my eyes open.
At the beginning A-ko is late for her first day at school, she walks with C-ko to school, both who are late, so A-ko uses her superspeed to get them there faster. Later they meet B-ko, who is jealous because C-ko is firends with A-ko. B-ko use to pick with C-ko back when they were kids, until A-ko came and saved her (she even saved her from a wolf).
Fast forward later, B-ko starts fights with A-ko, and so they always are late for class. After many failed attempts in beating A-ko, B-ko creates a suit that could match her in a fight. So they start fighting, until some alien people (who look like men, but are women), interrupts their battle by taking C-ko (who suppose to be a princess).
That doesn't show her taking an explosion (it looks like she move just before a missle hits the airplane she's was on).
I didn't ignore it, I just don't think it's an impressive speed feat.
He took out an entire army (which about a thousand men equiped with guns) by himself, took several explosions and still got back up fighting (some even towards the face), was hit several times with a huge axe that explodes on impact (the weapon even broke on him), he fought and defeated several characters that had superspeed, and just plenty more insane feats he has done; all of this I can prove if need be (I don't need to lie).
How bout proving how armband-removed A-ko is going to beat Luffy.
Was your sight blurred? Did you just come back from the eye doctor? Seems so...
Thanks for that summary. Doesn't prove you watched it. Not like the internet isn't saturated with summaries....
She comes OUT of the explosion. Notice the trail? She wouldn't have flames around her if it just missed her. Are you reading what you're typing?
Yet you say dodging A missile and bullets is.... Where's the irony in that?
Thanks for showing me source of this missile dodging he's done.
Yes, I'd love for you to show me this.
Also, let me note that an explosion from missiles are far more deadly than what's been seen in One Piece (unless you care to show me these missiles that you speak of). And you know why? Nuclear warheads.
Simple. You give someone an item that limits their power, what do you think that limit will be? One percent of their maximum? What would be the purpose of a limiter if it only limits a small portion of your power. This would equate to, at the most, half of her powers limited (and this is being gracious. Why would Diana, knowing their own powers, just limit her daughter to half power). The shit she does with this limit is ridiculous... and you're telling me with it removed, she'd not be able to take him? Luffy is strong, agile and resourceful... I GIVE HIM THAT. But if you believe Eiko isn't strong, agile and resourceful either... than you're just biased.
Bullet
06-03-2006, 08:38 PM
[QUOTE=Keollyn]Was your sight blurred? Did you just come back from the eye doctor? Seems so...
Thanks for that summary. Doesn't prove you watched it. Not like the internet isn't saturated with summaries....
Yeah it does. Have you seen the movie?:confused
She comes OUT of the explosion. Notice the trail? She wouldn't have flames around her if it just missed her. Are you reading what you're typing?
No she doesn't, the airplane explodes, she escape before being in it.
Yet you say dodging A missile and bullets is.... Where's the irony in that?
Thanks for showing me source of this missile dodging he's done.
What did I show? :confused It still isn't an impressive speed feat.
Yes, I'd love for you to show me this.
Sure!smile-big
Also, let me note that an explosion from missiles are far more deadly than what's been seen in One Piece (unless you care to show me these missiles that you speak of). And you know why? Nuclear warheads.
Maybe. Point is, Luffy has survived them, she hasn't.
Simple. You give someone an item that limits their power, what do you think that limit will be?
How bout showing a feat.
One percent of their maximum?
I want a feat.
What would be the purpose of a limiter if it only limits a small portion of your power. This would equate to, at the most, half of her powers limited. The shit she does with this limit is ridiculous... and you're telling me with it removed, she'd not be able to take him? Luffy is strong, agile and resourceful... I GIVE HIM THAT. But if you believe Eiko isn't strong, agile and resourceful either... than you're just biased.
Just because she have a limiter, doesn't mean she whould win. Do have any feats she have done without her armbands on. Oh, and nobody's being bias, I just don't think she can beat Luffy...period.
Lord Yu
06-03-2006, 08:45 PM
As for A-ko surviving explosions she survived the crash of that one spaceship. A-ko has also defeated a cosmic being before and as we all know cosmics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Luffy. I really need to dig out my old dvd .
Keollyn
06-03-2006, 08:49 PM
I'm not seeing anything but blant "Eiko can't because I said so." It's like you're so far up Luffy's ass you can't accept that someone else can possibly beat him.
And if you SUPPOSEDLY seen Project A-ko, why would I have to show you feats? It's like saying to someone "Tell me how the movie ended" when they seen the ending already.
If you clearly can't see Eiko coming out of that explosion... than you really need to sue that eye doctor of yours.
Thanks for showing me source of this missile dodging he's done.
What did I show? It still isn't an impressive speed feat.
My fault I meant to put "Thanks for showing me source of this missile dodging he's done [/sarcasm]"
Keollyn
06-03-2006, 08:52 PM
As for A-ko surviving explosions she survived the crash of that one spaceship. A-ko has also defeated a cosmic being before and as we all know cosmics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Luffy. I really need to dig out my old dvd .
That's Xena, right? I haven't seen that movie but I heard she was able to merge universes together. That's something.
I heard Liza survived an explosion from a self-destruct of something. Eiko's equal to her with armbands on.
Bullet
06-04-2006, 12:50 AM
I'm not seeing anything but blant "Eiko can't because I said so." It's like you're so far up Luffy's ass you can't accept that someone else can possibly beat him.
You still havn't given anything to convince me that she could beat Luffy.
And if you SUPPOSEDLY seen Project A-ko, why would I have to show you feats? It's like saying to someone "Tell me how the movie ended" when they seen the ending already.
Because you claim that she done these things that I've never seen her do.:confused So please prove it.
Oh and here's scans of my cases from the movie.
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8969/projectako0xr.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako0xr.jpg)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/517/projectako28kb.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako28kb.jpg)
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8963/projectako31xw.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako31xw.jpg)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6199/projectako41iy.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako41iy.jpg)
I don't need to lie.
If you clearly can't see Eiko coming out of that explosion... than you really need to sue that eye doctor of yours.
Then I guess you're the one that needs to go to the doctor, because she wasn't hit by the explosion for what I've seen.
My fault I meant to put "Thanks for showing me source of this missile dodging he's done [/sarcasm]"
Who needs to dodge it when yu can take it head on. He even fought people with superspeed, one was even fast as a missile (Arlong).
As for A-ko surviving explosions she survived the crash of that one spaceship. A-ko has also defeated a cosmic being before and as we all know cosmics>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Luffy. I really need to dig out my old dvd .
Just because they have the title cosmic, doesn't mean that they are automatically powerful. What has this cosmic done feat wise?
Right now Luffy > A-ko
Keollyn
06-04-2006, 05:58 PM
You still havn't given anything to convince me that she could beat Luffy.
Because you claim that she done these things that I've never seen her do.:confused So please prove it.
Oh and here's scans of my cases from the movie.
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8969/projectako0xr.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako0xr.jpg)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/517/projectako28kb.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako28kb.jpg)
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/8963/projectako31xw.th.jpg (http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako31xw.jpg)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6199/projectako41iy.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako41iy.jpg)
I don't need to lie.
Then I guess you're the one that needs to go to the doctor, because she wasn't hit by the explosion for what I've seen.
Who needs to dodge it when yu can take it head on. He even fought people with superspeed, one was even fast as a missile (Arlong).
Just because they have the title cosmic, doesn't mean that they are automatically powerful. What has this cosmic done feat wise?
Right now Luffy > A-ko
That's because things we say just isn't registering in that brain of yours.
That's because you haven't watched the movies. I posted images, and you still deny her. Fanboys know no limits.
Thanks for posting those scan... Still doesn't prove anything. You do know you can get pics from the internet with relative ease. Especially from Ebay/Amazon.
That's because you can't see. I think the only way you're managing to respond to me is that you have someone reading this for you. I must say I feel sorry that you're vision is impaired.
Yet you haven't showed/told me who uses missiles in the series. he can take them, but from what I know, no one shoots missiles. Arlong can be as fast as missiles all he wants, from Eiko's experience and feats, she'd just walk all over him too. So your point hasn't been made unfortunetly.
Xena's able to merge the many universes TOGETHER. What fucking more do you need to know?
Right now You're fanboyism > Logic.
Bullet
06-04-2006, 06:24 PM
That's because things we say just isn't registering in that brain of yours.
Yeah it is.
That's because you haven't watched the movies. I posted images, and you still deny her. Fanboys know no limits.
I have watched the movies, get over it.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9481/projectako59gk.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako59gk.jpg)
:P
Thanks for posting those scan... Still doesn't prove anything. You do know you can get pics from the internet with relative ease. Especially from Ebay/Amazon.
Those are my scans, think what you want (that's what fanboys do anyways).
That's because you can't see. I think the only way you're managing to respond to me is that you have someone reading this for you. I must say I feel sorry that you're vision is impaired.
Guess you still need those glasses.
Yet you haven't showed/told me who uses missiles in the series. he can take them, but from what I know, no one shoots missiles. Arlong can be as fast as missiles all he wants, from Eiko's experience and feats, she'd just walk all over him too. So your point hasn't been made unfortunetly.
Arlong is as fast a missile (and is far worse), Luffy stoped him. So my point has been made.
Xena's able to merge the many universes TOGETHER. What fucking more do you need to know?
Show me feats, I'm not taking your word after debating against you.
Right now You're fanboyism > Logic.
Right now Luffy > A-Ko and My evidence > your bitterness
Keollyn
06-04-2006, 06:47 PM
Yeah it is.
I have watched the movies, get over it.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9481/projectako59gk.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=projectako59gk.jpg)
:P
Those are my scans, think what you want (that's what fanboys do anyways).
Guess you still need those glasses.
Arlong is as fast a missile (and is far worse), Luffy stoped him. So my point has been made.
Show me feats, I'm not taking your word after debating against you.
Right now Luffy > A-Ko and My evidence > your bitterness
Congratulations. Now go pop it into a DVD player and ACTUALLY watch it.
Arlong being faster than missiles doesn't prove that Luffy can take missiles? What fucking illogical fanretort is that? Besides, you said A missile... meaning one. Eiko hops on MANY missiles... meaning amounting to a large but indefinite number. So by that display, she trumps both Luffy AND Arlong at the SAME time.
Watch the Eiko versus OAV, or heck, go to A SITE that has Project A-ko's movies synopsis/summaries and READ THEM. It's essentially an easy task to accomplish. That is, if you can manage to see where you're going.
Right now You = failing miserably to make a winning point for Luffy.
Ikari Shinji
06-04-2006, 07:51 PM
Merging universes? I fail to see how that would help anyone in battle, that's one weak ass cosmic
Have you even read all of One Piece? I guess not, because the only person to beat Luffy was able to freeze a LARGE part of the ocean with 1 hand, and Luffy is probably just below that man now since he got Gear 2
Why would Luffy need to jump on missles? He doesn't have to, he can jump on fucking air, that doesn't mean he can't take one though, chapter 332 Luffy takes a massive explosion and he just gets pissed
Keollyn
06-04-2006, 07:54 PM
Merging universes? I fail to see how that would help anyone in battle, that's one weak ass cosmic
Have you even read all of One Piece? I guess not, because the only person to beat Luffy was able to freeze a LARGE part of the ocean with 1 hand, and Luffy is probably just below that man now since he got Gear 2
Why would Luffy need to jump on missles? He doesn't have to, he can jump on fucking air, that doesn't mean he can't take one though, chapter 332 Luffy takes a massive explosion and he just gets pissed
So you're saying that merging universes < freezing an ocean....
I fail to see how an ocean > universe.
I don't even know why I responded to this. This has to be the worst fanlogic ever. Sigged.
Ikari Shinji
06-04-2006, 08:12 PM
So you're saying that merging universes < freezing an ocean....
I fail to see how an ocean > universe.
I don't even know why I responded to this. This has to be the worst fanlogic ever. Sigged.Freezing an ocean> Merging universes
Please, do tell me how merging 2 universes would be profitable in a fight, can't? That's because it isn't
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