Goku Vs Magento, Orochimaru, Ichigo, Ubogin, Yagami Light, and Sesshoumaru

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Can Goku really defeat all of them?

Yagami Light is without preptime. He's only there to organize the team. :)

[Envy]

Which goku? But even then, Magneto sticks a rod of metal through his heart. Goku can't do shit.

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Goku at the end of Dbz

[Bullet]

The team wins. Magneto and Ichigo is all thats needed IMO.

[Kisame]

Sesshomaru can do that instant kill attack.

If Raito can convince goku taht he doesn't want to fight and ask his name that should be the end.

But idk which name Goku or Kakkarot is the one you need as that was never brought up.

bardock named him but Goku didn't know that nor does he consider that his name.

[escamoh]

Which goku? But even then, Magneto sticks a rod of metal through his heart. Goku can't do shit.

A metal rod won't even scratch Goku...

All Goku has to do is Instant Transmission high above the Earth and then blow it up. Then Instant Transmission to Namek or something.

[Envy]

A metal rod won't even scratch Goku...

All Goku has to do is Instant Transmission high above the Earth and then blow it up. Then Instant Transmission to Namek or something.

Yes it will.

[Bullet]

A metal rod won't even scratch Goku...

All Goku has to do is Instant Transmission high above the Earth and then blow it up. Then Instant Transmission to Namek or something.

This is a neutral universe, so there's no Namek, if he blows up Earth, he'll die too. And a metal rod can go through Goku with enough force put into it.

[escamoh]

There is no way a metal rod would go through Goku...His body can withstand attacks that can blow a planet up.

If Goku's not allowed to leave the Planet then he can just IT behind each person and blast them with a kamehameha.

Anyway Goku is too fast to be hit by any of those characters attacks...Bankai Ichigo is like a snail compared to Goku's speed.

[Kisame]

There is no way a metal rod would go through Goku...His body can withstand attacks that can blow a planet up.

what attack that could blow up a planet has he withstood?

[Envy]

And just so you know, Magneto can manipulate Metal any way he wants. He can make it go as fast as he wants. How would you like a metal rod flying at you so fast you can't see it. Yeah, that thing's going through your body dude. And just so you know, rocks cut their skin.

[Keollyn]

Son Goku for the win.... Kakarotto for the ultimate lose.

[braindx]

The team wins. Magneto and Ichigo is all thats needed IMO.

This is correct.

[Envy]

I say only magneto is needed. TAke the iron out of his stomach and pretty much everywhere in his body = Swiss cheese goku

[Psysalis]

Spirit bomb ftw!!! : )

[*uzumaki-naruto*]

magneto's team wins

[mortsleam]

at the end of dbz that mean ssj3 and super kamehamya he do super kamehama and he wins and he can fly so he dodges attacks. Magneto can't do notin to a Sayin.

[Kagutsuchi]

Goku can destroy half of the earth then teleport to the other side. Goku wins.

[Fenix]

End of DBZ Goku should be able to win.

Then again, I'm sure Magneto is probably elevated to some godhood status by now in the comics

Who knows

The magneto that most normal people know, wouldnt stand a chance

[Takuza]

If blood lust is on, everyone except Ichigo dies before they relaize it. Goku OWNS them in terms of speed. Ichigo my or mynot just bearly escape...but He couldn't survive very long either.

[uncle jafuncle]

Considering how naive goku is...Yamagi Raito takes it alone with a little time.

[Gunners]

Well if goku is totally barbaric and aiming to kill he would take this, i dont know of some of the characters abilities, but if goku wants to kill magento i think he would do it, ichigo would die. Others i dont know of.

[FireEel]

While they are busily convincing Goku not to fight, Sesshoumaru pulls off a Meidou Zangetsuha which sends Goku down to hell...if Goku is dumb enough to be standing still and talking.

[Endless Mike]

Magneto rips the iron out of his blood or sucks him in a wormhole into deep space where he suffocates to death.

[Dark Evangel]

magneto will suck goku using a vaccum like what he did to phoenix

[escamoh]

And just so you know, Magneto can manipulate Metal any way he wants. He can make it go as fast as he wants. How would you like a metal rod flying at you so fast you can't see it. Yeah, that thing's going through your body dude. And just so you know, rocks cut their skin.

Your comparing a human body to a saya-jinns body? I guess you don't watch DBZ...

I'm sorry but saya-jinns totally outclass everyone of the people in this fight.

Goku wouldn't even feel a bullet that hits him right in the face...no matter what Magneto tries he's WAY to slow to keep up with Goku.

And rock does not cut their skin, those cuts come from punches and kicks and stuff like that.

[Zouri]

I say only magneto is needed. TAke the iron out of his stomach and pretty much everywhere in his body = Swiss cheese goku

Just so everyone knows, Magneto can do more than just manipulate a few metals. He even has the power to control irons inside a person's body. Meaning he can just stop Goku's blood from moving, which would kill him quickly. Or he could just tear them out of Goku's body. Or if he was feeling nice he could send an iron rod at him at thousands of miles per hour.

He has even more abilities than that, but I don't know much outside of his metal abilities.

Sesshomaru can send Goku straight to hell and not be anywhere near him.

Yamagi Raito wins as long as he asks Goku his name. Goku has never refused to tell anyone his name. The second he does that, Goku loses all his power and Raito wins with ease.

I don't know what Ichigo could do. Stab him, maybe? Then again, I doubt that would kill him.

The team wins with ease. Too many insta-death moves on their side.

[Dante]

Listen to esclafowne3, not any of them can do shit agains SSJ2 or SSJ3 Gokuh, and yeah, he can withstand planet destroying attacks, since almost ANY big ki-ball can destroy a planet, just look at the firs Broly movie, he destroyed a planet with one of his gree-ish ki attacks, and Gokuh took plenty of those. in his normal state he's almost as fast as Bankai Ichigo, not to mention he can teleport and his phisical sthrenght is enough to kill any of them with a single blow

The team wins with ease. Too many insta-death moves on their side.
Goku only has to teleport by any of their sides and give a blow with less of the half of his strhreght to cause instant death to any of them :notrust

[Kagutsuchi]

Whoever says Magneto's Team wins is kinda dumb. Goku can just teleport half way around the world then attack from there...

[Nathan]

Heh.

A lot of strong people here. But if Goku goes all out with Super Saiyajin 4 he could hit down a lot of them easily. But if Goku just stands around talking, well then the other team will have the chance.

[Anthriel]

Magneto rips the iron out of his blood or sucks him in a wormhole into deep space where he suffocates to death.
I will no longer take any of your posts in this Battledome seriously, because you are obviously a comic fanboy and would vote for Doctor Octopus over Kyuubi.


Bascially, the fight comes down to one thing: Does Goku try to kill them or not?
If he does, then he just blows up the planet and teleports elsewhere. Or alternatively, just punches them all to death in a split second. He owns all of them in the speed department, especially Light (duh) and Magneto.

If he does not, then he is in deep shit. Magneto, Oro, Ichigo and Ubogin cannot do shit to him, but Sesshoumaru and Light can kill him instantly under the right conditions. I'd say Sesshoumaru wouldn't be able to kill either, his attack is unblockable, but not necessarily undodgeable.
The main threat is Light. Given Goku's stupidity, getting his name shouldn't be a problem. In the worst case scenario, he can still use Shinigami eyes for that. And Goku wouldn't object to someone writing down his name in a notebook, so he would die.

[Seitoukaichou]

Raito asks Goku's Name > Goku answers > Raito writes down name > Goku=dead
simple oO"

[Bullet]

Bascially, the fight comes down to one thing: Does Goku try to kill them or not?

If Goku does try, he dies faster.

If he does, then he just blows up the planet and teleports elsewhere.

If he blows up the planet he dies with it, since he won't have anything to teleport too. This is a netrual universe, so he can't teleport to King Kai's or Namek planets, since they don't exsist in any of the other characters world (and why do DBZ supporters always try to use that as an scapegoat).

Or alternatively, just punches them all to death in a split second.

That's not going to work, since Ichigo is fast enough to fight and take his punches and Mags could put up a forcefield then suck the iron out of his blood.

He owns all of them in the speed department, especially Light (duh) and Magneto.

No he doesn't.

If he does not, then he is in deep shit. Magneto, Oro, Ichigo and Ubogin cannot do shit to him, but Sesshoumaru and Light can kill him instantly under the right conditions.

All of them can do alot to him, which is why he going to lose.

The main threat is Light. Given Goku's stupidity, getting his name shouldn't be a problem. In the worst case scenario, he can still use Shinigami eyes for that. And Goku wouldn't object to someone writing down his name in a notebook, so he would die.

He whould die well written.

Whoever says Magneto's Team wins is kinda dumb. Goku can just teleport half way around the world then attack from there...

I say Mags team wins. Teleporting halfway around the planet to do what?:confused Goku doesn't have microscope vision.

[Endless Mike]

Magneto can rip the iron out of his blood, killing him.

[Seitoukaichou]

Since when do humans (or Saiyajins for that), have Iron in their blood? The human body holds like 0.05g (or less) iron, but that won't kill you if it'S "ripped out" o__o""""

[Endless Mike]

Yes it will. And we know Goku has iron in his blood because he eats human food.

[Seitoukaichou]

You mean that 0.05g of iron would kill somebody O_o?

[Endless Mike]

Yes. It's essential to have it in your blood or else you would die.

[escamoh]

For God sakes how the hell will Magneto have enough time to use his powers on Goku??

Goku is way faster and stronger than all those guys, he can kill them all easily with instant transmission.

[braindx]

It seems like every week I visit once, the average IQ on this forum drops.

[Reznor]

Magneto, Orochimaru and Ichigo are out-tiered by Buu Saga Goku. I don't know about the rest.

They may have a combo or something, but I know Goku could destroy the first 3.
This is a neutral universe, so there's no Namek, if he blows up Earth, he'll die too. So you are saying it's a tie?

Are there other planets in this universe?

And a metal rod can go through Goku with enough force put into it. No, it's still only metal. It might kill him still at a high enough force, sure, but it would break.
Raito asks Goku's Name > Goku answers > Raito writes down name > Goku=dead
simple oO" Goku's name isn't Goku though. Would that matter?

[Kisame]

Are there other planets in this universe?


he can only teleport places with a familiar huge ki. he can't teleport planet to planet.

[Bullet]

So you are saying it's a tie?

Are there other planets in this universe?

No. Planets like Earth or the moon, thats what I mean by fighting in a netrual universe, since those planets exsist in both DBZ, Marvel, and Bleach; Namek and King Kai's planet don't.

No, it's still only metal. It might kill him still at a high enough force, sure, but it would break.

Metal that could go through him is what I meant.

[shibigoku]

well, Goku is pretty fast so I don't think any of them would have the time to react before he knocks them down with a tap on the neck. (Goku doesn't kill)

[Bullet]

[QUOTE=shibigoku]well, Goku is pretty fast so I don't think any of them would have the time to react before he knocks them down with a tap on the neck. (Goku doesn't kill)

Ichigo is fast and Magneto doesn't have to do alot of moving around in a fight inoder to win.

[Reznor]

he can only teleport places with a familiar huge ki. he can't teleport planet to planet. Yeah, that's true.

[Envy]

Your comparing a human body to a saya-jinns body? I guess you don't watch DBZ...

I'm sorry but saya-jinns totally outclass everyone of the people in this fight.

Goku wouldn't even feel a bullet that hits him right in the face...no matter what Magneto tries he's WAY to slow to keep up with Goku.

And rock does not cut their skin, those cuts come from punches and kicks and stuff like that.

I've finished DBZ. I also have the comics in their original language. Rocks cut their skin dude. And being knocked onto rock gives them bruises. See any fight with rocks in them. I.E: Frieza saga. Vegeta vs Guinyu Force.

Saiyan's don't outclass everyone. From what I hear, Ichigo is fast. Magneto rips iron out of the body -.-, and That Raito guy seems a bit overpowered. Orochimaru is kinda immortal so yeah. Kusanagi + Magneto combo = Dead Goku.

And like I said, you're comparing a bullet to someone who can CONTROL AND MANIPULATE metal. That being said, he can control a piece of metal going at the speed of light. Do you know how much force is behind a GRAIN OF SAND travelling in space at 15k MPH? Or whatever how fast it was, either way. It could probably ventilate you. So think a sword, or maybe some sharpened I-beam sticking out of Goku's chest. That's the out come of the battle

he can only teleport places with a familiar huge ki. he can't teleport planet to planet.

Not true. Technically, he can teleport anywhere. (If he can lock onto someone on the planet with ANY ki. Doesn't have to be huge at all) The "ki" doens't have to be enourmous, I.E Namek. He just needs to be able to locate it, so locating it takes time.



well, Goku is pretty fast so I don't think any of them would have the time to react before he knocks them down with a tap on the neck. (Goku doesn't kill)

lol.

[Kisame]

Not true. Technically, he can teleport anywhere. (If he can lock onto someone on the planet with ANY ki. Doesn't have to be huge at all) The "ki" doens't have to be enourmous, I.E Namek. He just needs to be able to locate it, so locating it takes time.



It has to be big enough for him to feel it. he cant lock onto a power level of 5, light years away no matter how familar it is.

[Envy]

It has to be big enough for him to feel it. he cant lock onto a power level of 5, light years away no matter how familar it is.

Why not. What's the defenition of "Big enough". If it has a ki, he should be able to teleport to it.

[Kisame]

Why not. What's the defenition of "Big enough". If it has a ki, he should be able to teleport to it.

If he cant feel the ki he cant teleport to it.

[SSJKrillin]

Heres the deal with Goku.
-First ep/chap of DB he gets shot in the head with a bullet... he says it hurts. This is Goku as a child, millions of times weaker (quite literally) than when DBZ ends.
-Next at the beginning of DBZ Picollo states that Raditz is moving at the speed of light. Goku at the end of DBZ is hundreds of thousands of times faster.
-Regular Vegeta pwr 18000 (Saiyan Saga) has th ability to destroy whole planets with 2 fingers. Compare that to SSJ3 Goku's Kamehameha. What that also means is that almost every powerful blast Goku has taken from then on, from a more powerful opponent, has also been able to destroy worlds.

There is also a debate as to whether saiyans can breath in space or not. So if they can, Goku could just destry earth and fly away.

Then if the moons out he'll literally go ape shit and will be 10x more powerful.

With Raito the name 'Goku' wouldnt work, as his real name is Kakkarot.

Goku is just too powerful.

Goku ftw.

[Bullet]

Heres the deal with Goku.
-First ep/chap of DB he gets shot in the head with a bullet... he says it hurts. This is Goku as a child, millions of times weaker (quite literally) than when DBZ ends.

Okay, we know this.

-Next at the beginning of DBZ Picollo states that Raditz is moving at the speed of light.

That was only in the dub version, that never happened in the manga.

Goku at the end of DBZ is hundreds of thousands of times faster.

Yes he's fast.

-Regular Vegeta pwr 18000 (Saiyan Saga) has th ability to destroy whole planets with 2 fingers. Compare that to SSJ3 Goku's Kamehameha. What that also means is that almost every powerful blast Goku has taken from then on, from a more powerful opponent, has also been able to destroy worlds.

There has been plenty of blasts that was thrown did nothing but blow up moutains or cause craters, not destroy planets. They can't blow up planets by just throwing little Ki blasts anywhere on the planet, they must charge it into a huge blasts aimming it down towards the planet, then forcing it through.

There is also a debate as to whether saiyans can breath in space or not. So if they can, Goku could just destry earth and fly away.

they can't survive in space, this has been stated in the manga and show.

Then if the moons out he'll literally go ape shit and will be 10x more powerful.

He'll just be mindless then.

Goku is just too powerful.

Powerful yes, but he isn't unbeatable.

Goku ftw.

Not likely.

[kaizuki]

goku would slaughter magneto's team if it wasn't for sesshoumaru.sesshoumaru is a fricken demon,seriously whos gonna mess with with a demon?have you seen the first inuyasha movie? he kills those to chinese demons without effort.and they were difficult match for sango and miroku.

[escamoh]

I've finished DBZ. I also have the comics in their original language. Rocks cut their skin dude. And being knocked onto rock gives them bruises. See any fight with rocks in them. I.E: Frieza saga. Vegeta vs Guinyu Force.

I guess your right but I don't get how DBZ guys can take huge Ki blasta and not have a scratch on them and then get cut by a rock. Its weird.

Saiyan's don't outclass everyone. From what I hear, Ichigo is fast. Magneto rips iron out of the body -.-, and That Raito guy seems a bit overpowered. Orochimaru is kinda immortal so yeah. Kusanagi + Magneto combo = Dead Goku.

Ichigo is fast but no where near the speed of Goku. Oro is useless in this fight he can't do anything. Magneto seems to be the only guy who'll give Goku a tough time.

And like I said, you're comparing a bullet to someone who can CONTROL AND MANIPULATE metal. That being said, he can control a piece of metal going at the speed of light. Do you know how much force is behind a GRAIN OF SAND travelling in space at 15k MPH? Or whatever how fast it was, either way. It could probably ventilate you. So think a sword, or maybe some sharpened I-beam sticking out of Goku's chest. That's the out come of the battle

Goku can dodge the metal no matter how fast it's flying with Instant Transmission. But if Magneto rips out the iron in Goku's blood then Goku would die. But I know that Goku would be able to easily kill Magneto cause he has the instant transmission-kamehameha combo.

[Comic Book Guy]

-Next at the beginning of DBZ Picollo states that Raditz is moving at the speed of light.

English dub error

-Regular Vegeta pwr 18000 (Saiyan Saga) has th ability to destroy whole planets with 2 fingers.

Non-canon, filler. If he was able to casually destroy that world, he wouldn't have needed to spend time for the Galick Gun, least use it.

[Zouri]

Goku only has to teleport by any of their sides and give a blow with less of the half of his strhreght to cause instant death to any of them :notrust

Dude, Goku isn't going to be able to kill all of them like that. Magneto puts up a shield and Goku hits it. That split second is just long enough for Magneto to rip the iron out of Goku's body.

Sesshomaru simply cuts anywhere and there's a good chance Goku will fly into the hole and be sent to hell. Sesshomaru doesn't need to even be near the person when he uses that technique.

And come to think of it, Goku vs. Raigo would last forever the second Raigo puts up the barrier. Inside of it you can't see the other side, period. Also, attacks have a much weaker effect until you gain yuusei. So, Raigo would just keep guessing while Goku is confused as hell.

And this is assuming he goes straight for one of them first and not the cannon fodder on the team.

Ichigo would probably attack first, meaning Goku would beat him and by that time Magneto or Sesshomaru would have killed him.

Oro is a non-factor because he would just try to counter/avoid Goku's attacks.

There are too many people fighting against Goku with too many instant kill moves. Goku loses this bout.

[Linkage]

hmm... it seems everybody's counting Ubo out(or ignoring him)... sad. anyway i do think he can fight Goku with his insane physical strength but he also has another ability than can definitely catch Goku off-guard ---> his annoying scream :) .

[Kisame]

hmm... it seems everybody's counting Ubo out(or ignoring him)... sad. anyway i do think he can fight Goku with his insane physical strength but he also has another ability than can definitely catch Goku off-guard ---> his annoying scream :) .


and his nuclear missile punch. And that if we apply hxh world powers goku wouldn't be able to break his ten.

[SSJKrillin]

Okay, we know this.

Meaning speeding hot metal couldnt hurt him when he was hundreds of millions of times weaker.

That was only in the dub version, that never happened in the manga.


My bad. Havent read the manga in years a vaguely remember Piccolo saying that in the dub.
Than let me use another example- Roshi says in DB he used to run around the world in a matter of hours. Goku=hundred million times stronger/faster. IN case thats filler... Gotenks flies around the world a number of times, in almost no time, in his base form in DBZ. Base Gotenks < Goku SSJ3 full power.(dunno if the seconds filler... meh)

All this is meant to show is that Goku is easily the fastest of any of these fighters. Negating anything Ichigo can do, and anyone planing on hitting him physically.

Yes he's fast.


Glad you agree

There has been plenty of blasts that was thrown did nothing but blow up moutains or cause craters, not destroy planets. They can't blow up planets by just throwing little Ki blasts anywhere on the planet, they must charge it into a huge blasts aimming it down towards the planet, then forcing it through.


Thats why I said powerful blast. Anyways...yea they kinda can (or should be able to at least). DB Roshi destroyed the moon with a kamehameha, and DBZ piccolo did it again using a fairly simple blast. Both these two are a shit-load weaker at these points than SSJ3 Goku.
Even when Freeza destroyed Namek he was tonnes weaker than Goku at the end of DBZ. Goku has a high speed, strength, power, stamina, and endurance than any of these fighters (at least the ones i know) by far.

they can't survive in space, this has been stated in the manga and show.


Bardock flash-back, Vegeta filler (the stop at the random planet), and Db when Goku goes to the moon. Also why would Vegeta plan to destroy earth if he would die aswell (Saiyan Saga)? But thats not really an important point.

He'll just be mindless then.


And fucking powerful. not to mention he'll want them all dead. But meh.

Powerful yes, but he isn't unbeatable.


True, but I think he outclasses these opponents.

Not likely.

Very likely.

[Vandire]

This is a no-logic fight. Basic DBZ logic is the more powerful someone is, the more of *anything* they can withstand, the faster they get, etc. However, this isnt quantifiable in any way. Enough Ki might stop magnetos abilities, it might not. He might be too fast for others, but again, might not be. Both Ichigo and Goku have had scenes of them going OMGPWN on opponents when they reach new levels of power, then a few episodes/chapters later, they're drawn as slow again, not because they've lost ability, but because the pace of the fight itself has gone down.

So... yeah. That makes it difficult, because the end result of magnetic force Vs Ki is impossible to predict.

Aside from that... Yagami would probably never use the shinigami eyes, and Ichigo would make talking enough to ask Goku for his name impossible, making Light somewhat useless at first. Maybe if everyone died except him there'd be a dramatic speech, followed by a few scribble noises and the THUD, but he'd have to survive that long first. I dont know anything about Sesshomaru, so Im not going to comment on what he'd do.

...its just a strange one, plain and simple, and I dont see there being any right or wrong.