Juggernaut Vs Konoha

[ShangDOh]

Juggernaut from the comics vs the entire village. Do they stand a chance?

Edit: There, that should make it fairer.

[Envy]

momentum > the rookie nine.

[BakaKage]

He's the Juggernaut bitches!

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

He's slow as fuck. Kakashi and his Mangekyou for the win.

[Comic Book Guy]

Classic, or current?

[Havoc]

He's slow as fuck. Kakashi and his Mangekyou for the win.

And what exactly could Kakashi or anyone for that matter do to stop Juggernaut permanently?

[Envy]

And what exactly could Kakashi or anyone for that matter do to stop Juggernaut permanently?

Chidori > Juggernaut. Alternate Dimension MS > Juggernaut.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

And what exactly could Kakashi or anyone for that matter do to stop Juggernaut permanently?
Send him to another dimension? :huh

It doesn't say "Konoha vs. Juggernaut in a stopping contest"

[HugeGuy]

Kakashi's MS and Jiraiya's Swamp Jutsu should be able to take him out.

[Suzumebachi]

Chidori > Juggernaut. Alternate Dimension MS > Juggernaut.


You must be fucking kidding. You better be fucking kidding.

His power is being FUCKING UNSTOPPABLE!

Their best bet at beating him is the Death God jutsu, that is of course if ALL of the ninja can hold him long enough to finish it.

[shadowlords]

juggernaut has all of the shikon jewel shards. he also has the chaos emeralds and the cytorrak gem. not to mention he has pokemon ruby, sapphire, and don't forget diamond. he wins definitely.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

Kaka-chan sends him off to Dimension X. How hard is this to understand?

Oh noes, Konoha might WIN something? Quick, think up some bullshit!

[Suzumebachi]

Kakashi needs to hit a not moving target. And how do you keep Juggs from moving?

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

Kakashi needs to hit a not moving target. And how do you keep Juggs from moving?
Deidara was moving a lot faster than Juggs can. And Kakashi was moving at the same time. He could just stand to the side against Juggs.

[Suzumebachi]

Juggs hits Kakashi with his own pimp.

[Sieg]

Swamp or something similar slows him down, then Kakashi does his job.

[escamoh]

Yeah Kakashi's MS would take out Juggs pretty quickly. I don't know about Jiraiya's swampland jutsu, would that stop Juggernaut?

[earthshine]

Kaka-chan sends him off to Dimension X. How hard is this to understand?

Oh noes, Konoha might WIN something? Quick, think up some bullshit!



ooooo, someones a little bit bitter from all those battledome threads.



seriously, kakashi is their only hope. his jutsu MIGHT be able to do it, unless juggs has his forcefeild on, which, being mysticly empowerd, may protect him.



if kakashi can teleport him, then konoha wins by way of ring out, if not, NOTHING is going to even make a dent. juggs is invincible, in the literal sense. no jutsu is going to do any damage.

[Suzumebachi]

Yeah Kakashi's MS would take out Juggs pretty quickly. I don't know about Jiraiya's swampland jutsu, would that stop Juggernaut?

No, that would not stop the UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT. Thats his power, being immortal and unstoppable.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

I am a little bitter, yes. 80% of Outskirts people seem to have this fervent desire to see Naruto characters get owned.

[Envy]

Suzemebachi, cut the crap and stop being ignorant. You're like phenomenal, except you're stupid on all levels. Yeah, Foxy can beat Eneru. Good one.

Tell me, how does a dimension not stop Juggernaut, Chidori can cut through anything, how hard is that to understand? He runs into a swamp, bye bye momentum. Shut the hell up. You're fucking stupid. Just give it up. Don't be an idiot.

[earthshine]

Tell me, how does a dimension not stop Juggernaut, Chidori can cut through anything, how hard is that to understand? He runs into a swamp, bye bye momentum. Shut the hell up. You're fucking stupid. Just give it up. Don't be an idiot.


so can adimantium supposedly, but guess what? it can't cut juggs. one thing to know: juggs is not a mutant. he gets his powers from a very special source: a GOD. you think some nins can compete with that? also, his momentum CAN'T be taken away, his actual power is to keep going no matter what. you think he is not strong enough to push/swim through? most people's strength is defined with a class, his is refered to as LIMITLESS.

[Suzumebachi]

Serenade, you only saw the X-Men movie, didnt you?

[Envy]

Serenade, you only saw the X-Men movie, didnt you?

Answer the question. How does an aleternate dimension not stop him; how does a swamp not "slow" him.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

Now now, Sere. No flaming.

The dimension indeed flushes him. It's silly to say otherwise. The swamp SHOULD slow him... but the rules of Juggernaut say nothing slows him, so nothing slows him.

[Shadow Replication 1480]

The swamp's not bottomless. Juggs could walk on the bottom and not be bothered at all. As for Kakashi's Alternate Dimension spammy shit technique, like stated before, if Cain has his forcefield up, I doubt he even notices it. Finally, if you honestly think the Chidori's gonna hurt/cut Juggs, then you really don't know shit about him.

Didn't we already have a thread like this before?

[earthshine]

The dimension indeed flushes him. It's silly to say otherwise. The swamp SHOULD slow him... but the rules of Juggernaut say nothing slows him, so nothing slows him.


actually, even if we forget the rules, someone of juggs strength, even disregarding momentum rules, would make it through the swamp easy. a swamp is only dangarus to humans because we lack the strength to swim through it, it is too thick, jugs would but through like it was just water.


but seriously, the alt demension WOULD stop him, if it works. however, his powers may protect him from it, but it all depends. again, juggs is mystically empowerd, so the laws of physics don't weigh havily on him

[Suzumebachi]

Now now, Sere. No flaming.

He's flaming me everywhere and its hurting my feelings. You should ban him.

[escamoh]

As far as I can see, the only thing that has a chance of stopping juggs is Kakashi's MS.

Saying that even sending Juggs to an alt. universe won't work is being stupid.

[Envy]

He's flaming me everywhere and its hurting my feelings. You should ban him.

Want things you can't have.

Alternate Dimension > Juggernaut. Need I say more?

[earthshine]

Want things you can't have.

Alternate Dimension > Juggernaut. Need I say more?


seriously though, that was blatant flaming and your lucky that the mod looking at this is apparently nice, as that is definetly reason to ban your ass.


anyways, juggs has gone to alt demensions. twice. he always gets out. but still, this is assuming it actually works on juggs, his protection may stop it

[escamoh]

Kakashi can make juggs implode with his MS can't he?

[Freija]

Kakashi > Juggernaut with MS

[Envy]

seriously though, that was blatant flaming and your lucky that the mod looking at this is apparently nice, as that is definetly reason to ban your ass.


anyways, juggs has gone to alt demensions. twice. he always gets out. but still, this is assuming it actually works on juggs, his protection may stop it


Sorry, I can't stand ignorance.

[Suzumebachi]

Sorry, I can't stand ignorance.

And apparently people cant stand you.

And why are people igorning what I said? I gave you Konoha supporters a good one. Not only would MS might work on Juggs, but Death God.

[Envy]

And apparently people cant stand you.

And why are people igorning what I said? I gave you Konoha supporters a good one. Not only would MS might work on Juggs, but Death God.

I fail to see where you agree with aleternate dimension, and Death God needs you to be still. You can't be moving when they extract a soul. And seeing as how he's not going to stop, MS is the only way out.

Kakashi needs to hit a not moving target. And how do you keep Juggs from moving?

Read that, then say you agree.

Yeah Kakashi's MS would take out Juggs pretty quickly. I don't know about Jiraiya's swampland jutsu, would that stop Juggernaut?

No, that would not stop the UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT. Thats his power, being immortal and unstoppable.

Read that, then say you agree.

[Envy]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!

I fail to see teh burn, and just so you know, the second quote I have is yours, the first one is from someone else. So if you were referring to that, then you really suck at memorizing what you said.

[Marsala]

Juggernaut is vulnerable to quicksand-like terrain. Spider-Man once beat him by covering Juggernaut's eyeholes and (accidentally) causing Juggernaut to blunder into a dozens-of-feet-deep cement foundation that he sank into and became trapped in for days, at a minimum.

Juggernaut is also vulnerable to mental attacks, without his helmet. However, genjutsu may not require removing the helmet since it is triggered through the senses and could essentially infiltrate Marko's brain through his eyeholes. Kakashi or any talented Jounin could put him to sleep.

If removing the helmet is necessary, Tsunade could rip it off before Juggernaut can react.

[Havoc]

He's flaming me everywhere and its hurting my feelings. You should ban him.


It's hurting my feelings as well.:(

[Suzumebachi]

I fail to see teh burn, and just so you know, the second quote I have, the first one is from someone else. So if you were referring to that, then you really suck at memorizing what you said.

Part of the second quote is from me. Looks like you really suck at trying to make people feel dumb.

[Envy]

Part of the second quote is from me. Looks like you really suck at trying to make people feel dumb.

I'm not making you feel dumb, I'm saying you are.

the second quote in that entire quote is yours. The first is someone elses. And once again, I fail to see your "burn".

You've yet to agree that sending people to an alternate dimension will work. And I just disproved your death god way, so I'm bufuddled, where am I getting burned? Please clarify.

[Suzumebachi]

God you're arrogant....I was sarcastically saying that you burned me.

[Envy]

God you're arrogant....I was sarcastically saying that you burned me.

Yeah, next time lets put sarcasm tags. And what I meant was, as part of the second quote I had, the second quote in that quote box is yours. The first one in the box is someone elses.

[Arazial]

Juggernaut from the comics vs the entire village. Do they stand a chance?

Edit: There, that should make it fairer.


I can't remember everything about Juggernaut, but if he has no way of defending against Kakashi's ms than I think Konoha can take this. However, if Kakashi's ms doesn't affect him, or he actually misses too much and get's drained, than I think Konoha would be in some serious trouble. I think Jiraiya's swamp techniques could slow him down for some time, but he'd eventually get out. This is all assuming his helmet can protect from Genjutsu.

[Suzumebachi]

Genjutsu wouldnt really stop him. It would work, but what would it do to him?

[Envy]

Genjutsu wouldnt really stop him. It would work, but what would it do to him?

Genjustsu can make you drown yourself.

[Marsala]

Genjutsu wouldnt really stop him. It would work, but what would it do to him?
Put him to sleep, or make him walk off course and wander away.

[braindx]

Trion Juggernaut (Juggernaut fully powered by Cytorrak) can rip holes in dimnensions with his bare hands. Kakashi's MS can't stop that. Plus, do we even know if Juggs can be MS transported or rather transported by anything with his mystical forcefield up? My first inclination is no. The Nins best bet is a stalement by trapping him in a sleep genjutsu or a genjutsu forever, that is, if that can even work through his forcefield. The nins can't win physically.

[Suzumebachi]

Trion Juggernaut (Juggernaut fully powered by Cytorrak) can rip holes in dimnensions with his bare hands. Kakashi's MS can't stop that. Plus, do we even know if Juggs can be MS transported or rather transported by anything with his mystical forcefield up? My first inclination is no. The Nins best bet is a stalement by trapping him in a sleep genjutsu or a genjutsu forever, that is, if that can even work through his forcefield. The nins can't win physically.

I dont think that anyone debating in this really knows about Juggernaut's full powers or anything.

[Kisame]

Juggernaught wins. Nothing not even there puny deathgod would hurt him


The Nins best bet is a stalement by trapping him in a sleep genjutsu or a genjutsu forever, that is, if that can even work through his forcefield


Genjutsu requires a chakra system. No chakra = no genjutsu

[Gooba]

I still think that he would be able to use his helmet to block genjutsu. "Going in the eye holes" seems like a trick Professor X would have figured out years ago. He wears a skullcap under it, so pulling off the big helmet isn't going to help. Plus, if he gets his hand over his head there is no way even Tsunade could pull it off.

[Seventh Scripture]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/351/juggheal9gd.jpg

I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

[Spacey]

Actually Juggernaut in narutoverse = Fucking weakling, because Cyttorak doesn't exist in the narutoverse therefore Konoha ftw

[Kagutsuchi]

Ways to beat Juggernaut:
Hinata's dad can 1 hit him.
Genjutsu him, force him to hold his breath.
Ino's mind switch thing; beat himself up.
Death God
Kakashi's MS
Shikamaru can bind him then other people can try stuff on him.
Jiraiya can do swamp of the underworld. Full version.
If Yondaime was alive he could put a hiraishin seal on him and thus he's dead.
Itachi obliterates him with Amaterasu or kills him with Tsukiyomi.

[CrazyMoronX]

I'm with Gooba, helmet would block genjutsu. I've always wondered about the eye holes, and why Xavier didn't just through that... but my guess is, he uses his force field to block those holes.

As for sending him to another dimension with Kakashi's MS, I suppose that may work...

Jiraiya's swamp would probably get rid of him for a while as well, unless Juggernaut uses his forcefield. With that, he can walk on water.

[Envy]

Genjutsu requires a chakra system. No chakra = no genjutsu

Everyone has chakra. It's like.. Essentially a life force or something. It's also believed that in acupuncture, poking holes in the right places relieves the clogged pathways for chakra and so.. it relieves tension/pressure etc. wikipedia should have an article. I'm lagging since I'm torrenting eps 1-50 of Bleach so it'd take me like.. 20 minutes to get there.

[Rice Ball]

Woah soem funny statements here :)

Assuming its classic juggernaught, alot of you seem to have only seen the juggernaught from the film/cartoon. It really doesn't do him justice as he is totally empowered by a god to be his unstoppable avatar. If savage hulks attacks didn't do much you can't assume a kunai is going to do much :) You can pretty much ripe his body to pieces (if you can in the first place) and he'll keep moving.

For starters-

Chidori wouldn't do a damm thing, it could barely go through a person, if it had any power Kakashi's Chidori would have gone through Haku and through its target.

Swamp of the underworld might slow him down giving other nins a chance to pull of there attacks, nothing more.

Kakashi's M Sharingan 'might' work, Cytorrak's powers would give him resistance against this sort of thing but i guess this is the only chance Konoha would have.

Death god would be debatable, if you think about it the deathgod would have to combat Cytorrak pulling Marko's soul back to the body :)

Tsunade is weaker than the Hulk, don't expect her punchs to do much more than stagger Juggs. As for removing his helm, it took Adantium to piece it before :)

Juuken, might work, if it can get past that armour.

[Seany]

Hmm i have to say Konoha. Even Juggernaut couldn't survive all those attacks.

[Spacey]

Kagemane no jutsu ftw.

@Rice Ball: If we assume Death God == Death (Marvel) then Death God > Cyttorak. And actually we've seen no proof that Tsunade is weaker than Hulk so far we have encoutered nothing too heavy for her to lift

[Kisame]

@Rice Ball: If we assume Death God == Death (Marvel) then Death God > Cyttorak


Japanese death gods aren't death itself. they are just psychopompers.

[Spacey]

Japanese death gods aren't death itself. they are just psychopompers.

Eating one's soul isn't just something anyone can do y'know:wink

[Kisame]

Eating one's soul isn't just something anyone can do y'know:wink


Psychopompers can.

[earthshine]

Eating one's soul isn't just something anyone can do y'know


but still, compared to what cyytorek can do(rip holes in the demensional fabric) it's nothing.



okay, let's end this: juggs does not need to eat, sleep, breath or drink, he NEVER gets tired, and has UNLIMITED stength, his powers are mystic, powerd by an actual god, and his helmet and skullcap is made from a mystic metal that blocks psychic attacks.



you cannot "go through the holes" as someone put it, as it most likley makes some sort of feild around him, protecting him. you think the psychics would not have gone through the holes if they could?



besides kakashi's ms, NOTHING would work. this man DEFINES invincible, he would walk right through swamp of the underworls, kaiten would have jyuuken would be useless(same princible as kyubi naruto, only with cytorrek), and kage mane would be broken out of easily. an 8 gated gai would not even tickle him, and he would laugh at resangan.



look, it is simple: if kakashi's MS does not work due to juggs mystic protection, konoha has absolutly no chance

[Spacey]

but still, compared to what cyytorek can do(rip holes in the demensional fabric) it's nothing.



okay, let's end this: juggs does not need to eat, sleep, breath or drink, he NEVER gets tired, and has UNLIMITED stength, his powers are mystic, powerd by an actual god, and his helmet and skullcap is made from a mystic metal that blocks psychic attacks.



you cannot "go through the holes" as someone put it, as it most likley makes some sort of feild around him, protecting him. you think the psychics would not have gone through the holes if they could?



besides kakashi's ms, NOTHING would work. this man DEFINES invincible, he would walk right through swamp of the underworls, kaiten would have jyuuken would be useless(same princible as kyubi naruto, only with cytorrek), and kage mane would be broken out of easily. an 8 gated gai would not even tickle him, and he would laugh at resangan.



look, it is simple: if kakashi's MS does not work due to juggs mystic protection, konoha has absolutly no chance

Like I said we don't know the extent of the Deaht God's powers. And of course Kagemane would work, why wouldn't it? :wink

[earthshine]

Like I said we don't know the extent of the Deaht God's powers. And of course Kagemane would work, why wouldn't it?


put into naruto terms, juggs wuold have chakra comprable to the kyubi itself. kage mane had trouble even holding one of the sound 4

[Spacey]

put into naruto terms, juggs wuold have chakra comprable to the kyubi itself. kage mane had trouble even holding one of the sound 4

No he wouldn't he would have the chakra of an average person, so no. Strength and chakra has no connection

[CrazyMoronX]

Unstoppability powered by gods > kagemane powered by chakra. There's no chance in hell it'd even slow him down.

[FireEel]

We know how strong Juggernaut is, but still, can someone put up more comic strips of Juggernaut owning some marvel's ass?

[Hype]

Ways to beat Juggernaut:
Hinata's dad can 1 hit him.
Genjutsu him, force him to hold his breath.
Ino's mind switch thing; beat himself up.
Death God
Kakashi's MS
Shikamaru can bind him then other people can try stuff on him.
Jiraiya can do swamp of the underworld. Full version.
If Yondaime was alive he could put a hiraishin seal on him and thus he's dead.
Itachi obliterates him with Amaterasu or kills him with Tsukiyomi.


1) Doubt it his shiled would block any phiscal attacks

2) Tis a possibilty i think his helmet would block it though

3) Doesnt INO feel pain when in another body ?

4) Kakashi is the best bet to win

5) Shika wouldnt hold him for longer than a second

6) Jiraiya's hell swamp would only slow him down

7) Yes Yondaime could put a seal on him but then what phiscal attacks are useless vs Jugs

8) Itachi's Amaterasu is also a good bet but it would boil down to Amaterasu vs Jugg's shield

Itachi would be better off mind raping him aka Xavier stlye

[earthshine]

No he wouldn't he would have the chakra of an average person, so no. Strength and chakra has no connection


no, he has the power of a GOD coursing through him. if he had chakra, he would be comprable to kyubi.



1) Doubt it his shiled would block any phiscal attacks

2) Tis a possibilty i think his helmet would block it though

3) Doesnt INO feel pain when in another body ?

4) Kakashi is the best bet to win

5) Shika wouldnt hold him for longer than a second

6) Jiraiya's hell swamp would only slow him down

7) Yes Yondaime could put a seal on him but then what phiscal attacks are useless vs Jugs

8) Itachi's Amaterasu is also a good bet but it would boil down to Amaterasu vs Jugg's shield

Itachi would be better off mind raping him aka Xavier stlye




why would yondaime and itachi be in this? this is konoha, right? is not itachi gone, and yondaime dead?

[Hype]

no, he has the power of a GOD coursing through him. if he had chakra, he would be comprable to kyubi.








why would yondaime and itachi be in this? this is konoha, right? is not itachi gone, and yondaime dead?


Fucked if I know Im just quoteing someone *shrugs*

[Blackmagesamurai]

Shino would just choke him with his bugs or send them up is nose, and in his ears.

[Suzumebachi]

Kagemane no jutsu ftw.

@Rice Ball: If we assume Death God == Death (Marvel) then Death God > Cyttorak. And actually we've seen no proof that Tsunade is weaker than Hulk so far we have encoutered nothing too heavy for her to lift

Tsunade can lift the world?

[earthshine]

@Rice Ball: If we assume Death God == Death (Marvel) then Death God > Cyttorak. And actually we've seen no proof that Tsunade is weaker than Hulk so far we have encoutered nothing too heavy for her to lift


tsunude is not super strong, she just releases a burst of chakra that gives her short bursts of power, she is not super strong at all times. and yes, hulk is stronger, he lifted an entire ISLAND before. an island the size of a small town

[Suzumebachi]

He also lifted Thor's Hammer. I forget how heavy its suppose to be, but its MUCH heavier than Bunta's sword, which is the only thing we see her super lifting.

[Gooba]

Hahaha, kagemane, hilarious. Someone whose power is to be unstoppable, powered by a god, being weaker than Tayuya.

Clog up his nose for all that I care, he doesn't eat, breathe, or sleep. He could probably exhale with enough force to blow them out anyways.

[Suzumebachi]

Hey now...Tayuya was a strong ninja...not Juggs strong, but strong.

[Spacey]

Like I said they would use, Cyttorak doesn't exist in the narutoverse

[Havoc]

Like I said they would use, Cyttorak doesn't exist in the narutoverse

And this is the basis of your argument?:oh For the purposes of this Battle he does, if you're using this argument then we can say Juggs doesn't have chakra because they never stated he did in comics.

[Spacey]

And this is the basis of your argument?:oh For the purposes of this Battle he does, if you're using this argument then we can say Juggs doesn't have chakra because they never stated he did in comics.

Well without any chakra then he'll actually die in the narutoverse since it's an essential force needed to survive:wink

[CrazyMoronX]

Well without any chakra then he'll actually die in the narutoverse since it's an essential force needed to survive:wink

Juggernaut only needs the Cyttorak power flowing through him to live. You can take his oxygen, blood, chakra, etc... he'll still keep moving.

[Suzumebachi]

Thats a really sad argument Spacey.

[Nihonjin]

Alright, so juggs is an unstoppable insanly strong incarnation of a God...
And there's nothing the nins can do to stop juggs (supposedly)....ok thats fun and all...
Now, lets focus on what Juggs can do to the nins with his slow good for nothing self.
I can't imagine him being able to land even a punch on ANY nin skilled enough to perform "kawarimi" (for stupid people the Replacement technique).
At best this would be a draw....1 its an entire village of insnaly agile Ninja's (one able of teleporting juggs to...well...nowhere)...so what the hell is can HE do?
"Ooee look at me I'm unstoppable...If I build up momentum."

He won't have the time to do so...and even if he did...no fcking way in hell would he be able to hit a Jounin..Chuunin...Genin...or even a genius academy student >__>

If he can't land a hit this battle's over.

Being teleported = Juggs loses..
Getting his soul ripped out and sealed = Juggs loses
Not being able to hit anyone = Juggs loses without a good fight.

[Spacey]

Juggernaut only needs the Cyttorak power flowing through him to live. You can take his oxygen, blood, chakra, etc... he'll still keep moving.

He can't live without his soul though


@Suzumebachi: You're a really sad person so, ssssstttfff something :nod

[Suzumebachi]

Not being able to hit anyone = Juggs loses without a good fight.


How is that a loss? How would the ninja win? By running away from him forever? Thats not a win.

[Kagutsuchi]

If you include Yondaime, then Konoha wins. If he puts a hiraishin seal on Juggernaut he's a dead man.

Yondaime applies a "jutsu-shiki" to weapons such as kunai in advance. It is also possible to leave it in a touched area, and when it is engraved on an enemy's body, it becomes a curse seal with a sentence of death!

Freshly stolen from this thread:
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=70936&highlight=hiraishin

[Endless Mike]

Sending him to another dimension won't work, because Cytorrak will rescue him (it's happened before).

No genjutsu will work because of his helmet and skull cap.

[Endless Mike]

The curse seal thing won't work because Juggernaut is protected by Cytorrak, and Cytorrak is a high level cosmic being.

[Havoc]

Alright, so juggs is an unstoppable insanly strong incarnation of a God...
And there's nothing the nins can do to stop juggs (supposedly)....ok thats fun and all...
Now, lets focus on what Juggs can do to the nins with his slow good for nothing self.
I can't imagine him being able to land even a punch on ANY nin skilled enough to perform "kawarimi" (for stupid people the Replacement technique).
At best this would be a draw....1 its an entire village of insnaly agile Ninja's (one able of teleporting juggs to...well...nowhere)...so what the hell is can HE do?
"Ooee look at me I'm unstoppable...If I build up momentum."

He won't have the time to do so...and even if he did...no fcking way in hell would he be able to hit a Jounin..Chuunin...Genin...or even a genius academy student >__>

If he can't land a hit this battle's over.

Being teleported = Juggs loses..
Getting his soul ripped out and sealed = Juggs loses
Not being able to hit anyone = Juggs loses without a good fight.

Ok you really don't know anything about Juggernaut do you? You saw X3 and now you think you have a grasp of his powers.

[Envy]

Well without any chakra then he'll actually die in the narutoverse since it's an essential force needed to survive:wink

Everyone has chakra. Read my post.

[Air Grady]

He's the juggernaut...bitch. He'd win. :bmgai

[Gooba]

Juggernaut could eventually hit them. Ninjas tire, he does not. After a decade of fighting, they would slow down at least enough for him to land a punch, and 1 hit from him is instant KO. I don't see how they would steal his soul, since as soon as you try and stand still in front of him, you are paste.

[chakra25]

I thought everyone who does not have the sharingan will die if they look into the eyes of the MS. If that's the case, Juggs' brain would explode if he saw the MS sharingan. It wouldn't matter how many gems. The MS doesn't teleport the person (physical) into another dimension. It pulls the victims mind... Juggs would get one hell of a mind F#. By the time Kakashi is done with Juggs mind, Juggs would be classified as a vegetable. Juggs will look into Kakashi's eyes and it will be over.

Juggs is unstoppable physically. But mentally, he should be vulnerable. I thought his helmet works on telepathy attacks where one has to project his mind to attack Juggs. The MS does not go out and attack (project), it's a direct result of Juggs looking into the eyes.

The Hyuuga clan should be able to own Juggs also. Their jyuken attacks directly to the organ. So a heartless juggs is a dead juggs.

[mortsleam]

Naruto will get Gamabunta and Gamabunta will kill Juggernaut
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[Gooba]

The Hyuuga clan should be able to own Juggs also. Their jyuken attacks directly to the organ. So a heartless juggs is a dead juggs.His invulnerability is not skin deep, it is everything. Jyuuken does nothing.

His helmet will protect him, you can't screw with his mind if he has it, or his helmet, that is just how it goes.

What are Manda or Gama going to do to him?

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut could just use a thunderclap and kill everyone.

He can create thunderclaps as powerful as nuclear warheads.

[Gooba]

Juggernaut could just use a thunderclap and kill everyone.

He can create thunderclaps as powerful as nuclear warheads.I forgot about those. Yea, he can take out those dodging and flipping ninjas with one of these. Even the weak ones would be more than enough to KO a nin.

[Tougoozi]

couldn't someone from the nara clan stop juggernaut with the shadow technique?

[Suzumebachi]

couldn't someone from the nara clan stop juggernaut with the shadow technique?


Nope. We covered that.

[Endless Mike]

couldn't someone from the nara clan stop juggernaut with the shadow technique?

Juggernaut once broke the Crimson Bands of Cytorrak, which are cosmically powered restraints composed of the very energy that binds the universe together.

I would think he could break a Kagemane no jutsu.

Just face it: Marvel characters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Naruto characters

[Nihonjin]

How is that a loss? How would the ninja win? By running away from him forever? Thats not a win.

He doesn't lose ebcause he can't hit people...he loses because he'll get MS Sharingan in his face before he can hit someone...so he'll lose without fighting pretty much.

Ok you really don't know anything about Juggernaut do you? You saw X3 and now you think you have a grasp of his powers.

It was based on what one of you Juggs fans said...in this thread.

[Keyser Söze]

konoha would kill the juggernaut.

[Shiron]

konoha would kill the juggernaut. ...
Mind saying how?

And Jugg's helmet would protect him from Tsukuyomi and Amaretsu isn't a powerful enough technique to kill him (or stop him or really do too much to him). Kakashi's MS is arguable, though (depending on which version of the Juggernaut we're using). Itachi's MS, though, should have no effect on Juggernaut.

[Endless Mike]

Kakashi's MS attack would do nothing, Juggernaut was so powerful that he couldn't even be killed by Eternity, the embodiment of the entire universe! Eternity had to drop him in another dimension to beat him, but he still came later.

Konoha is FUCKED.

[Suzumebachi]

Send Juggs to another dimension, he'll get back.

[mortsleam]

He's not that unstopable all you gotta do is use your brain like Kitty did.

[Suzumebachi]

The real Juggernaut is pretty different from the one you saw in the movie...

[Roy]

thats 2 much for Juggernaut 2 handle way 2 much Konoha FTW

[Suzumebachi]

How come no one is reading anyone else's posts?

[Jackal Iscariot]

Juggernaut hands down. This dude is really... just fuckin WOW O_o;;

[Endless Mike]

Why is this thread still going on?

Juggernaut could just punch the ground and Konoha would explode like a nuclear bomb.

[Suzumebachi]

Why is this thread still going on?

People arent reading other posts.

[mortsleam]

Juggernaut is not that strong, he cant kill a whole village!?

[mortsleam]

Juggernaut is not that strong, he cant kill a whole village!?

[Suzumebachi]

Juggernaut is not that strong, he cant kill a whole village!?

YES HE CAN.

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut can kill a whole PLANET.

In his strongest form, he could kill a whole UNIVERSE.

Just face it: Konoha village vs. the entire world's combined nuclear arsenals would be more fair than this.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

I'm reading everything. Here's what I'm seeing.

Retard Juggs fan: JUGGS KILLS EVERY1 HE DON'T STOP
Retard Narutards: Swamp of the underworld genjutsu lol.

Rational people: Kakashi's MS for the win.

Did I miss anything?

And Mike, don't double post.

[EvilMoogle]

And actually we've seen no proof that Tsunade is weaker than Hulk so far we have encoutered nothing too heavy for her to lift

And actually we've seen no proof that the Ramen shop owner is weaker than the Hulk so far we have encountered nothing too heavy for him to lift.

Proof based examples people. If the most we've seen Joe-ninja lift is 200 lbs than the most he can lift is 200 lbs. Or at least make stress based examples "Joe-ninja can easily lift 200 lbs so he should be able to lift 250 if he tries really hard."

[Lucidious]

AFTER reading every-single post AND searching around the internet to suppliment my knowlege of juggernaut
(so that i do not act a "Nihonjin"... some people have the 'tard, poor souls)

i have made two conclusions:

1. serenade's posts are invalid do to ridiculous ass-holery and generall anoyances
2. the Juggernaut would win without much contest as every definition of his power and the powers of his helmet (before Cyttoraks intervention) clearly show that nothing any konohan could do WOULD do a damn thing except maybe gain their respectful place on Juggernaut's list of who to mutilate.

its OK, Konoha can loose, its just a "what if"; no body has to watch the slaughter if they don't want to imagine it.

[earthshine]

I'm reading everything. Here's what I'm seeing.

Retard Juggs fan: JUGGS KILLS EVERY1 HE DON'T STOP
Retard Narutards: Swamp of the underworld genjutsu lol.

Rational people: Kakashi's MS for the win.

Did I miss anything?

And Mike, don't double post.




although I am a jugg supporter, I know that kakashi's MS CAN beat juggs, if it works. the only reason I am still arguing for juggs is that his mystic protection may defend him from it. and as others said, he could use a thunderclap and kill everyone in front of him in an instant, hell, he could make one big enough to destroy the whole village if he wanted.

[Kunoichi no Kiri]

There is nothing evident to show that Kakashi's MS wouldn't work; it doesn't destroy anything, it just switches dimensions.

So Juggs can go on moving around in someone else's dimension. <3

By the way, I'm assuming we're not talking about the Juggernaut who got his helmet ripped off by the X-men and then mindfucked here? Because Konoha honestly could do that easily.

[earthshine]

By the way, I'm assuming we're not talking about the Juggernaut who got his helmet ripped off by the X-men and then mindfucked here? Because Konoha honestly could do that easily.


he has a skullcap now, ripping of his helmet is useless.

[Suzumebachi]

1. serenade's posts are invalid do to ridiculous ass-holery and generall anoyances

Laughing out loud.

[Gooba]

So Juggs can go on moving around in someone else's dimension. <3Yea, or he can figure out a way to send himself back.

Once Jean lifted him into the air, and he kept moving at her.

Also, in the time it took Kakashi to MS him, Juggernaut could KO him with a thunderclap, depends on who does it first.

[Kisame]

By the way, I'm assuming we're not talking about the Juggernaut who got his helmet ripped off by the X-men and then mindfucked here? Because Konoha honestly could do that easily.

Mindfucked by whom? Genjutsu doesn't work on people without chakra =/
and if he has a chakra system no way anyone would control it. because it would as unstoppable as he is.

They all could probaly out run him for a little while. But he would never stop. Ever.

[Ponko]

Tsunade could try flashing her boobs at him. Maybe then she could convince him to leave peacefully, or ask if he wants to be the new Hokage. If they were really lucky she could convince him to turn around and trash the Akatsuki for Konoha.

Assuming Juggernaut likes blonds.

[Endless Mike]

I'm reading everything. Here's what I'm seeing.

Retard Juggs fan: JUGGS KILLS EVERY1 HE DON'T STOP
Retard Narutards: Swamp of the underworld genjutsu lol.

Rational people: Kakashi's MS for the win.

Did I miss anything?

And Mike, don't double post.

Swamp Jutsu won't work, because Juggernaut can WALK ON AIR.

Repeat: HE CAN WALK ON AIR.

Kakashi's MS won't work, because Cytorrak can transport Juggernaut back from other dimensions. Its happened before.

[Lucidious]

Yea, or he can figure out a way to send himself back.

Once Jean lifted him into the air, and he kept moving at her.


that sounds pretty frickin rad..

yea... I think the juggernaut is pretty crazy. thw whole "ripping through dimensions" thing is a good argument, but i can't find evidence of this possibility.

non-the-less, if you were to turn your attention to
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Jugg_heal.jpg

(posted on the first or second page) you would be staring at the juggernaut with all of his flesh seared from his body. even if you somehow did this to the juggernaut, he would simply laugh and say, "I'm The Juggernaut!" and procced to thundercalp/smack you upside the head until you were nothing. and i mean completely atomized.

[Endless Mike]

There's a reason Juggernaut is called 'unstoppable'.

[Suzumebachi]

Tsunade could try flashing her boobs at him. Maybe then she could convince him to leave peacefully, or ask if he wants to be the new Hokage. If they were really lucky she could convince him to turn around and trash the Akatsuki for Konoha.

Assuming Juggernaut likes blonds.

She wouldnt have to ask. He'd just rape her. I mean come on. Its the Juggernaut bitch!

[Ponko]

She wouldnt have to ask. He'd just rape her. I mean come on. Its the Juggernaut bitch!

What? He's not even a gentleman? How rude. I thought he was suppose to be a nicer guy now. Someone should warn the Shehulk.

[Lucidious]

yea, he would probably rape her before turning her inside-out.

[Ponko]

Hmm... then maybe they could have Naruto do his sexy no jutsu and try to lead him out of Konoha and into one of the neighbouring villages, like the Sound.

[Endless Mike]

Then after he is finished slaughtering the Sound village, he comes back and destroys Konoha.

The most they can do is buy time.

[Kisame]

Hmm... then maybe they could have Naruto do his sexy no jutsu and try to lead him out of Konoha and into one of the neighbouring villages, like the Sound.


::imagines juggernaught flying back from a nosebleed::

[Ponko]

Hehe, well, while Juggernaut is destroying the Sound, the Leaf could evacuate. Then at least no one will be there when the homes are smashed. They can always rebuild.

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut is not an anime character, so he doesn't have that weakness.

[Endless Mike]

Hehe, well, while Juggernaut is destroying the Sound, the Leaf could evacuate. Then at least no one will be there when the homes are smashed. They can always rebuild.


Here's a tip: When your best strategy consists of 'run away' that pretty much means you've lost.

Anyway, he'll hunt them down and kill them.

[Ponko]

True, but did they really lose? At least they got rid of Oro. Sort of a win-lose situation.

Course they are all dead, but they took a lot of innocent Sound ninja with them.

[Suzumebachi]

Juggernaut is not an anime character, so he doesn't have that weakness.

Huh. Didn't know that Juggernaut swung that way.

[Endless Mike]

No, I mean no one outside of anime characters get nosebleeds when seeing naked girls.

Normal males usually get activity in..... other parts of their body.

[Envy]

Let's get this straight

EVERYONE HAS CHAKRA Chakra/Life force/ many different synonyms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra

[Endless Mike]

So, because chakra is real in Naruto, and mythological in real life, that means it's real in every fictional universe?

That's retarded.

You might as well say that since the Ancient Greeks believed that Zeus exists, and Zeus also exists in the fictional world of the Hercules TV show, that means Zeus exists in all fictional realities.

[Suzumebachi]

Let's get this straight

EVERYONE HAS CHAKRA Chakra/Life force/ many different synonyms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra


Juggernaut will win against Konoha.

[YamiNeji]

Allright I just have to say that I think Konoha will win because somebody has to have a paralysis justu or something close to it to stop Juggernaut for enough of time for Kakashi's chidori.

[Kisame]

Let's get this straight

EVERYONE HAS CHAKRA Chakra/Life force/ many different synonyms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra


There chakra isn't naruto chakra. Naruto chakra flows down a chakra highway.

No chakra highway. No controlling chakra. Its not a metaphysical thing. chakra highways actually exist in the narutoverse.

[Endless Mike]

Allright I just have to say that I think Konoha will win because somebody has to have a paralysis justu or something close to it to stop Juggernaut for enough of time for Kakashi's chidori.

Juggernaut is powered by the magical Gem of Cytorrak, any paralysis jutsu would have to override that, and that's not happening.

Also Chidori would just bounce off Juggernaut.

[Ikari Shinji]

I don't even read the comics and I know Juggernaught would rape them

[Lucidious]

amen to rape. juggernaut's shields can block a lot of stuff.. including paralysis jutsu

[uncle jafuncle]

Whenever these arguments about one person taking out an entire city of heroes comes up I have always taken the side of the many...but this is the fucking juggernaut. Kakashi's Blackhole technique in conjunction with a brilliant strategy concocted by Shikamaru is the only real possibility for victory, but even then the odds are so incredibly stacked against them that I can't say I'd bet on Konoha.

The only real plausible solution would be to unseal the Kyuubi...but then Konoha kinda gets obliterated in seconds as well...and I'm still not convinced that the Ninetailed Demon Fox could stop the UNSTOPPABLE Juggernaut.

Juggernaut wins bitches.

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut could cripple the Kyuubi in one punch, and finish it off with the second.

That's better than any other Naruto character could do, though.

[Ikari Shinji]

No no no
Kyuubi would roast the Juggernaught, he'd laugh and say "I'm the Juggernaught bitch!" then he'd kill Kyuubi in one bonecrushing blow

[Lucidious]

yea, i agree, it would roast him, then a little white "miss" would apear over juggernaut's head, and then juggernaut would blow it away.

[Suzumebachi]

Whenever these arguments about one person taking out an entire city of heroes comes up I have always taken the side of the many...but this is the fucking juggernaut. Kakashi's Blackhole technique in conjunction with a brilliant strategy concocted by Shikamaru is the only real possibility for victory, but even then the odds are so incredibly stacked against them that I can't say I'd bet on Konoha.

The only real plausible solution would be to unseal the Kyuubi...but then Konoha kinda gets obliterated in seconds as well...and I'm still not convinced that the Ninetailed Demon Fox could stop the UNSTOPPABLE Juggernaut.

Juggernaut wins bitches.

You mean one person taking on Konoha. Konoha gets raped by everyone. Even the Prince of Tennis team.

[Envy]

There chakra isn't naruto chakra. Naruto chakra flows down a chakra highway.

No chakra highway. No controlling chakra. Its not a metaphysical thing. chakra highways actually exist in the narutoverse.

Ugh..

Chakra = Chakra. We all have pathways where chakra can travel. In Narutoverse, it's a highway. In rea life it's a therapy. Supposedly, Chakra is what triggers emotions, tension, stress etc. It 's why people have acupuncture therapy.

[Kisame]

Ugh..

Chakra = Chakra. We all have pathways where chakra can travel. In Narutoverse, it's a highway. In rea life it's a therapy. Supposedly, Chakra is what triggers emotions, tension, stress etc. It 's why people have acupuncture therapy.

No people don't have chakra. Chakra isn't real. In the narutverse it is. if you cut a person up you would see chakra pathways around organs.



There isn't chakra in real life.

[Suzumebachi]

What does chakra have to do with Juggs demolishing Konoha?

[Envy]

No people don't have chakra. Chakra isn't real. In the narutverse it is. if you cut a person up you would see chakra pathways around organs.



There isn't chakra in real life.


Do you have proof of "Chakra pathways around organs"

Besides the fact that the body can tell village secrets from Water village
arc?


Edit: http://www.therapyinfo.org/acupuncture.asp?keyword=how-does-acupuncture-work&engine=google&contextual=no

Acupuncture originated in China over 2,000 years ago and is one of the oldest and most commonly performed types of medical procedure. The literal meaning of Acupuncture is "needle piercing." As the name suggests, the procedure of acupuncture involves penetrating the skin with solid, metallic needles that are very thin. Acupuncture has grown in popularity in the United States since the 1970s and is now widely regarded as a safe and effective treatment for a variety of conditions.

According to Chinese medicine, the body transmits energy or qi (pronounced chee) through pathways or meridians in the body. The unimpeded flow of this energy, along with a balanced Yin and Yang, account for a person's overall health. Acupuncture targets more than 2,000 acupuncture points along these pathways to ensure the proper flow of energy through the body.

According to Western medicine, Acupuncture works by stimulating the Central Nervous System to release chemicals into the muscles, spinal cord and brain that can alter biochemicals in a way that may relieve pain, stimulate healing and promote physical and emotional health.

Both Eastern and Western medicines agree that Acupuncture can help treat a wide variety of illnesses by relieving pain and symptoms associated with these illnesses. Acupuncture can help with conditions as diverse as abdominal pain, diarrhea, indigestion, anxiety, menopause, infertility, chronic pain, arthritis, headaches, Parkinson's Disease, bronchitis, smoking cessation, addiction and high blood pressure just to name a few.

When choosing an Acupuncture practitioner, make sure to consult your physician to make sure Acupuncture can be beneficial to your condition. Acupuncture is not for everyone, and prescription or over-the-counter drugs, breast implants, pregnancy or a pacemaker may actually make Acupuncture dangerous. Always consult with a physician before any new medical treatment begins.

It is always a good idea to choose a licensed acupuncture practitioner. Many states have established certification guidelines for physicians and non-physicians who practice acupuncture. Getting referrals from family, friends and physicians is also a good idea. Make sure you get an estimate of the cost and the length of treatment proposed and make sure you understand what your health insurance plan will or won't cover.

With proper research and medical advice, Acupuncture may be the most effective treatment for your condition. With acceptance and popularity continuing to grow in the United States, Acupuncture has become an easy and affordable solution to many common health problems. Consult an Acupuncture practitioner in your area for more information.

This is what I essentially meant by Chakra and its many names.

Edit: http://www.learningmeditation.com/chakras.htm

Within our bodies there are focal points of energy that we use, whether consciously or unconsciously, to affect reality and allow us to fully experience and realize events that unfold before us. These focal points are called Chakras.

Chakras are located in important parts of your body such as your head or heart. Any organs within the area of these Chakras are used to control; and are, therefore, directly affected by the properties of that Chakra. There are seven Chakras located throughout the body, each with their own unique attributes and characteristics:

The Root Chakra is located directly at the base of the spine, also known as the coccyx. This Chakra is closely related to the body and our ability to master it. One’s health, constitution and security are linked to this Chakra. In addition, the realization of how our bodies connect to the material world is focused here.

Color: Red
Gems: Ruby, Garnet

The Naval Chakra is located in the lower abdomen. This Chakra is associated with the acts of giving and receiving, and is tied into the more physical feelings of love, passion and sexuality. The feeling of pleasure is also linked with this Chakra, so one may feel focus and feedback in this Chakra during moments of harmony, generosity, group creativity and selflessness.

Color: Orange
Gems: Amber, Coral

The Solar Plexus Chakra is located just above the navel and below the chest. This Chakra is a focus point for our force of will and our sense of transformation. Concentration and control of our personal energies originate from this point. One’s sense of power and authority, as well as self-control and discipline of the ego converge here. This Chakra can be used to sense the very use of one’s internal energies to affect what is outside the body.

Color: Yellow
Gems: Amber, Gold

The Heart Chakra is located at the center of the chest and is the focus for love and understanding. Feelings that stem from this love such as forgiveness, compassion, balance and harmony radiate from this point. This Chakra also nurtures the rarified feeling of unconditional or divine love, love that goes beyond the physical.

Color: Green
Gems: Emerald, Malachite

The Throat Chakra is located in the throat area between one’s chin and the top of the sternum. This Chakra is linked to one’s powers of communication. Through this Chakra, one can realize truth and knowledge; honesty, kindness and wisdom and how these elements can be conveyed through thoughtful speech.

Color: Sky Blue
Gems: Turquoise, Blue Topaz

The Brow Chakra is located in the forehead, right above our eyes. This is also known as the region of the "Third Eye" in Buddhist and other belief systems. This Chakra is related to our perception beyond the physical realm. Intuition, insight, imagination and clairvoyance can all be associated with this Chakra. One can also focus their realization of their own soul, divine wisdom and peace of mind in this point.

Color: Indigo
Gems: Lapiz Lazuli, Sapphire

The Crown Chakra is located at the very top of the head. As one might guess, this Chakra is associated directly with dealings of the mind and spirit. This Chakra is deeply tied to the exploration of one’s consciousness and place in space and time. Oneness with the universe, your spirit and will, inspiration, divine wisdom… all the things that deal with the Higher Self are rooted in this Chakra.

Color: Violet
Gems: Amethyst, Diamond, Quartz Crystal

And Suzumebachi, before you open up your mouth to bash me, lets read the one page of posts regarding Genjutsu, how about that.

[Kage no Yume]

No people don't have chakra. Chakra isn't real. In the narutverse it is. if you cut a person up you would see chakra pathways around organs.



There isn't chakra in real life.

Nor is there a god Cytorrak. So I guess Juggernaut has no powersource then?

[Suzumebachi]

What does this have to do with Juggernaut's potential loss?

[Endless Mike]

Nor is there a god Cytorrak. So I guess Juggernaut has no powersource then?

No one is arguing that the ninjas won't have chakra, just that Juggernaut won't.

[Suzumebachi]

No one is arguing that the ninjas won't have chakra, just that Juggernaut won't.

But why does it matter? It really doesnt.

[Kage no Yume]

No one is arguing that the ninjas won't have chakra, just that Juggernaut won't.

If Juggernaut has no chakra, then the Narutoverse (where this battle is taking place, as that's where Konoha is) has no Cytorrak to back him up.

But why does it matter? It really doesnt.

People were arguing that no chakra means that Juggernaut is immune to genjutsu.

[Kisame]

But why does it matter? It really doesnt.

If juggernaught doesn't have chakra. that throws out all genjutsus in this battle.

And he doesn't have chakra.

[Envy]

If juggernaught doesn't have chakra. that throws out all genjutsus in this battle.

And he doesn't have chakra.

Page 8. Read it.

[Endless Mike]

If Juggernaut has no chakra, then the Narutoverse (where this battle is taking place, as that's where Konoha is) has no Cytorrak to back him up.



People were arguing that no chakra means that Juggernaut is immune to genjutsu.


Wrong. Cytorrak would still exist, just like chakra still exists. However, the ninjas don't have the power of Cytorrak, and Juggernaut doesn't have chakra.

[Endless Mike]

Page 8. Read it.

Read my response to that.

[Envy]

Oh yes, if you're going to do a battle, everything in both worlds apply, therefore, Juggs has chakra.


No one is arguing that the ninjas won't have chakra, just that Juggernaut won't.

So you're saying Juggernaut isn't human, nor mortal, nor living.

[Kisame]

Nor is there a god Cytorrak. So I guess Juggernaut has no powersource then?

I sure hope you are just playing stupid. Juggernaught is based on a real life world where chakra doesn't exist. So he has no pathways. And he doesn't cast Ninjutsu's.

No chakra pathways = No genjutsu's. Simple as that.




Do you have proof of "Chakra pathways around organs"

Besides the fact that the body can tell village secrets from Water village
arc?




http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume9.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=12516

picture of chakra pathways Like veins inside of you.

Look how its around the heart. Real people dont have that

[Endless Mike]

Oh yes, if you're going to do a battle, everything in both worlds apply, therefore, Juggs has chakra.



So you're saying Juggernaut isn't human, nor mortal, nor living.

No, I'm saying that you don't need chakra to be human, mortal, or living.

But Juggernaut is not mortal, he is immortal.

[Envy]

I sure hope you are just playing stupid. Juggernaught is based on a real life world where chakra doesn't exist. So he has no pathways. And he doesn't cast Ninjutsu's.

No chakra pathways = No genjutsu's. Simple as that.







http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume9.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=12516

picture of chakra pathways Like veins inside of you.

Look how its around the heart. Real people dont have that

According to Chinese medicine, the body transmits energy or qi (pronounced chee) through pathways or meridians in the body. The unimpeded flow of this energy, along with a balanced Yin and Yang, account for a person's overall health. Acupuncture targets more than 2,000 acupuncture points along these pathways to ensure the proper flow of energy through the body.

Pretty sure those highways are just there for visualization. Not something that you can actually see

[Ikari Shinji]

Juggs doesn't have chakra, just shut up and accept the fact that they can't beat the Juggernaught, bitch

[Kisame]

Pretty sure those highways are just there for visualization. Not something that you can actually see

no its not. Thats why Kabuto could CUT naruto's during the sannin fight.

[Envy]

Juggs doesn't have chakra, just shut up and accept the fact that they can't beat the Juggernaught, bitch


-If you're going to make a battle, then both universes have to merge.-

If Cytorrak can exist, then chakra has to as well. IF there isn't, then tell the person who made teh thread to go shove it. As well as 3/4 of the battles in here. If you're going to cal people bitches becase people actually defend a battle in which konoha can actually do something about it, then get the hell out. If you're so bent on Juggernaut winning, lets see what you have to back it up, asshole.

no its not. Thats why Kabuto could CUT naruto's during the sannin fight.

Using a scalpel made of Chakra. Chakra cuts chakra. And plus, he's a medic nin, he knows where things go. A coil is in a general area, all he needed to do was cut near there. If he actually cut it, wouldn't Naruto be dead. Also, I have a Chakra explanation on page 8.

And last I checked on my quote, "Chi"/"Gi" is also a high way/ passageway. We poke holes to relieve the pressure. Doesn't mean we're poking the "highway". These are needles, I'm pretty sure a needle can cut through something as delicate as the highway which coils around the heart etc.

[Ikari Shinji]

-If you're going to make a battle, then both universes have to merge.-

If Cytorrak can exist, then chakra has to as well. IF there isn't, then tell the person who made teh thread to go shove it. As well as 3/4 of the battles in here. If you're going to cal people bitches becase people actually defend a battle in which konoha can actually do something about it, then get the hell out. If you're so bent on Juggernaut winning, lets see what you have to back it up, asshole.Juggernaught was stripped down to bones, and he still lived, this is proof he doesn't need chakra/chakra pathways to live :amuse

[Kisame]

-If you're going to make a battle, then both universes have to merge.-

If Cytorrak can exist, then chakra has to as well. IF there isn't, then tell the person who made teh thread to go shove it. As well as 3/4 of the battles in here. If you're going to cal people bitches becase people actually defend a battle in which konoha can actually do something about it, then get the hell out. If you're so bent on Juggernaut winning, lets see what you have to back it up, asshole.


no if your going to have a battle both people maintain what they have in the first place.


Look Juggernaught doesn't have chakra but everyone else does. just like they normally do.

You can't just give juggernaught chakra to put him in a genjutsu,ffs.

[Kage no Yume]

Juggs doesn't have chakra, just shut up and accept the fact that they can't beat the Juggernaught, bitch

*sigh*

It's not as if they need genjutsu anyways. They could probably just have Kakashi charge up his MS, then just bombard Juggernaut with kage bunshin and have Kakashi send him to another dimension during the asault.

Kakashi's MS > Juggernaut.

[Anemone]

Konoha would win

[Kisame]

It's not as if they need genjutsu anyways. They could probably just have Kakashi charge up his MS, then just bombard Juggernaut with kage bunshin and have Kakashi send him to another dimension during the asault.

Kakashi's MS > Juggernaut.


kakashi's ms is garbage. He couldn't even suck deidara in.

Juggernaught is powered by a God. Nothing stops the juggernaught. Not even some measly wormhole.

[Ikari Shinji]

*sigh*

It's not as if they need genjutsu anyways. They could probably just have Kakashi charge up his MS, then just bombard Juggernaut with kage bunshin and have Kakashi send him to another dimension during the asault.

Kakashi's MS > Juggernaut.IF it even harmed him at all, he gets teleported back or rips through dimensions back, choose your flavor

[Kage no Yume]

IF it even harmed him at all, he gets teleported back or rips through dimensions back, choose your flavor

I thought such feats were only possible if Cytorrak himself was involved in the battle. Juggernaut with just the power he gains from the gem wouldn't be able to accomplish such things.

[Endless Mike]

I never argued that chakra didn't exist, you retard, just that Juggernaut doesn't have it.

Because I don't have a million dollars, does that mean that a million dollars does not exist anywhere in the world?

[Suzumebachi]

Wait, are Kage no Yume and Serenede ACTUALLY arguing that Juggs would lose because of genjutsu? No, his chakra would be too great to control, if he had it. No, his helmet prevents such tricks from messing with him. Send him to another dimension? He'll just rip the dimensions with his bare hands and walk on back. OR he just teleports back and raises hell. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand? Or before they can try any of that, he can just thunderclap the entire villiage dead. Movie Juggernaut is not the Juggernaut we're using.

Do the nay sayers have everyone else on ignore or something?

[Hatake Timu]

Juggernaut vs Konohamaru???

[Endless Mike]

I thought such feats were only possible if Cytorrak himself was involved in the battle. Juggernaut with just the power he gains from the gem wouldn't be able to accomplish such things.

Except Cytorrak has helped him with such situations in the past, so he would do so again.

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut vs Konohamaru???

Now THAT would be funny!

[Envy]

Juggernaught was stripped down to bones, and he still lived, this is proof he doesn't need chakra/chakra pathways to live :amuse

I never said he needs it to live, I simply say he has it.


no if your going to have a battle both people maintain what they have in the first place.


Look Juggernaught doesn't have chakra but everyone else does. just like they normally do.

You can't just give juggernaught chakra to put him in a genjutsu,ffs.

I never said putting him into a genjutsu = win. I said MS > Juggernaut.

And humans all have chakra, "chi" highways. once again, page 8. I'm going to sleep.

Edit: If juggeranut is going to win because he's powered by a god, then why make a thread.

[Endless Mike]

I never said he needs it to live, I simply say he has it.

Prove he has it.

By your logic, because characters in DBZ have ki, then Naruto characters have ki.

In fact, by your logic, all DBZ, Naruto, Hunter X Hunter, Bleach, and Inuyasha characters all have ki,chakra,nen,reiatsu,and youki!

Besides, if Juggernaut does have chakra, then he can do ninjutsu too, and he creates a million kage bunshins and they all have his strength.

[Kisame]

I never said he needs it to live, I simply say he has it.

No he doesn't. even if he did. Only the narutoverse has tenketsus and the inner coil system.

Thats how genjutsu's work.

jugggernaught = 0 chakra even in a fight vs Narutuverse.

[Kage no Yume]

Except Cytorrak has helped him with such situations in the past, so he would do so again.

But this is Juggernaut vs Konoha. Not Juggernaut vs Konoha, with interferance from Cytorrak.

Wait, are Kage no Yume and Serenede ACTUALLY arguing that Juggs would lose because of genjutsu? No, his chakra would be too great to control, if he had it. No, his helmet prevents such tricks from messing with him. Send him to another dimension? He'll just rip the dimensions with his bare hands and walk on back. OR he just teleports back and raises hell. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand? Or before they can try any of that, he can just thunderclap the entire villiage dead. Movie Juggernaut is not the Juggernaut we're using.

Again, can he do that without asking Cytorrak for assistance? Has he ripped through dimensions or teleported on his own before?

If so then I concede defeat. If not, then Juggernaut loses.

[Kisame]

But this is Juggernaut vs Konoha. Not Juggernaut vs Konoha, with interferance from Cytorrak.



This is juggernaught. Juggernaught is Juggernaught w/ cyttorak interference.

[Kage no Yume]

This is juggernaught. Juggernaught is Juggernaught w/ cyttorak interference.

Being powered by the crystal alone isn't the same as having a deity step into the battle. Juggernaut has what he gets from the crystal as his own power. If you want to involve a god, then the only way for the Narutoverse to win is with shiki fuuin. All else fails before a cosmic level being.

[Kisame]

Being powered by the crystal alone isn't the same as having a deity step into the battle. Juggernaut has what he gets from the crystal as his own power. If you want to involve a god, then the only way for the Narutoverse to win is with shiki fuuin. All else fails before a cosmic level being.

Thats why juggernaught wins. The cyttorak crystal gives him that. Thats his power.

[Kage no Yume]

Thats why juggernaught wins. The cyttorak crystal gives him that. Thats his power.

No, the crystal gives him invulnerability, infinite strength, immortality, etc.

Cytorrak is the one who has to jump into a fight if Juggs gets sent to another dimension (unless it's said otherwise in the comics). Cytorrak is not in this fight beyond what he usually transmits to the crystal.

[Envy]

No he doesn't. even if he did. Only the narutoverse has tenketsus and the inner coil system.

Thats how genjutsu's work.

jugggernaught = 0 chakra even in a fight vs Narutuverse.

Naruto: Chakra highways. Same as chi, as read in page 8.

This "inner coil thing was the same thing Naruto addressed. Although every series has it's own different thing, I can agree with you that they have a "inner coil" system, but it's probably not what genjutsu affects. It affects your chakra, not the tenketsu. Tenketsu allows you to project chakra outside your body.

Genjutsu messes with the inside. Where it's at the source. So in essence, this "inner coil" / high way = chi "highway".

Everyone has some form of "Chakra", be it chi, ki, etc.

Prove he has it.

By your logic, because characters in DBZ have ki, then Naruto characters have ki.

In fact, by your logic, all DBZ, Naruto, Hunter X Hunter, Bleach, and Inuyasha characters all have ki,chakra,nen,reiatsu,and youki!

Besides, if Juggernaut does have chakra, then he can do ninjutsu too, and he creates a million kage bunshins and they all have his strength.

Like I said, variations of the same--if not minimally altered--thing.

[Kisame]

No, the crystal gives him invulnerability, infinite strength, immortality, etc.

Cytorrak is the one who has to jump into a fight if Juggs gets sent to another dimension (unless it's said otherwise in the comics). Cytorrak is not in this fight beyond what he usually transmits to the crystal.

Juggs won't be sent to another dimension. Deidara's hand just got teleported.

Not to mention Kakashi can't control the eye.

Not to mention cyttorak protects him from mystical forces as well. infinite momentum means never being sucked into a warp hole.

[Envy]

Juggs won't be sent to another dimension. Deidara's hand just got teleported.

Not to mention Kakashi can't control the eye.

Not to mention cyttorak protects him from mystical forces as well. infinite momentum means never being sucked into a warp hole.

Where did Dei's hand end up. Proof? Teleported to another dimension?

kakashi can control the eye. He's not proficient at it yet

He can't run into a warp hole?

[Kage no Yume]

Juggs won't be sent to another dimension. Deidara's hand just got teleported.

Not to mention Kakashi can't control the eye.

Not to mention cyttorak protects him from mystical forces as well. infinite momentum means never being sucked into a warp hole.

It was severed because Kakashi had to make the justu smaller than usual to avoid accidently hitting Gaara. The part Kakashi did hit got sent to another dimension. Kakakshi was also able to quickly warp a huge explosion a while later, so it seems he can use the justu quite well and on a pretty big area when he needs to.

And it's not really mystic in the Marvel sense. And has Juggernaut ever resisted a warp hole before? If so you might have a point, if not it's possible that even infinite momentum might not help him against a jutsu that's not really moving him, but is warping and cutting away the space he occupies.

[Endless Mike]

I believe Juggernaut once escaped from a black hole, if that counts.

[Kisame]

And it's not really mystic in the Marvel sense. And has Juggernaut ever resisted a warp hole before? If so you might have a point, if not it's possible that even infinite momentum might not help him against a jutsu that's not really moving him, but is warping and cutting away the space he occupies.


Juggernaught feats,,, no wormhole but most of these far out class taking some chakra induced hole.

When fighting an army battalion,The Juggernaut slammed his fists into the ground with such force it created an earthquake that ripped through the entire valley and brought a hill crumbling down on them. --Uncanny X-Men #33

Instead of moving out of the way,he lets Spider-Man drive a gas tanker right into him. Not only is he totally unmoving from the impact,but he walks out of the resulting gas inferno on fire and completely unconcerned. --The Amazing Spider-Man #230

The Juggernaut allowed Dazzler to futily blast all her energy directly into him at point blank range until she was drained. She fell unconscious as he stood over her completely unharmed. --Uncanny X-Men #218

took the Fantastic Four's Thing down for the count in seconds with just 3 successive blows. Thing would arise,only to fall back down unconscious. --Secret Wars II #7

sent Thor hurtling across the skies and then through a store wall with a casual backslap. --Thor #411

When hit so hard by Rogue of the X-Men that the shockwave from the punch shattered every window of the street,The Juggernaut simply stood there looking down on her with his arms crossed. --Uncanny X-Men #218

The Juggernaut caused the entire X-Mansion to shake and nearly collapse by stomping from all the way at the front gates of the estate. And was said to be using only a fraction of his power to accomplish it. --Uncanny X-Men #12

The Juggernaut has on two occasions allowed Cannonball to blast directly into him. And both times Cannonball was knocked out of blast mode and barely conscious while The Juggernaut remained totally unmoved and unphased.

The Juggernaut has withstood even Thor's godforce(which caused Galactus to flee for his life on one occasion,and shattered the prime Celestial's protective dome on another) with absolutely no physical damage whatsoever. --Thor #412

He withstood a direct blast from Stellaris's Celestial armor with zero effect to his person. The sheer energy radius of the blast hitting him was so powerful it created a large chasm in the Earth. --Thunderstrike #2

In a confrontation with Colossus,the first blow Juggernaut connects with ends the fight. Leaving Colossus unconcious when he lands from it. --Uncanny X-Men #183

The Juggernaut nearly drowned the Hulk by forcing Hulk's head underwater. Hulk had to use silt from the riverbed in Juggernaut's eyes to make The Juggernaut release his grip on Hulk's neck. --Hulk #402

Harmlessly absorbed a million volts of electricity. --Amazing Spider-Man #229

Despite suffering a significant power loss,The Juggernaut was still able to match Prime(who proved more than strong enough to match Thor punch for punch) in a direct test of strength before slamming Prime back through a wall. --Exiles #4

Tore through a wall 50 times the tensile strength of battleship steel as though it were a "a thin layer of plywood". --Uncanny X-Men #12

He had a vat of molten steel dumped on him by Deadpool and continued to fight uneffected and awash with flame. --Deadpool vol.1 #3

In a fight with the New Warriors,Firestar tried to stop him by heating his armor to the point where it became white hot. The Juggernaut didn't even acknowledge her attack whatsoever. --Thor #412

He hit Captain Britain with such force the Excalibur leader skidded away creating nearly a mile long groove in the ground with his body. --Excalibur #3

Trapped in 40-foot cocoon of solid steel,The Juggernaut exploded out in violent fashion by flexing his arms. --Thor #412

Stripped to only a fraction of his strength,he still is strong enough to easily choke Rogue while she fought to free herself with one hand while fending off Colossus with the other. --Marvel Team-Up #150(it was stated in the Marvel Handbook that both Tom and Juggernaut actually had less than a half of The Juggernaut's power as they had assumed)

Collapsed an entire skyscraper(possibly a World Trade Center tower) with a ram of his shoulder. --Spider-Man #16

Engaging fellow exemplar Stonecuter in a toe-to-toe slugfest,the punches they traded to one another caused earthquakes and was said to be the greatest fury ever unleashed on Earth. --Juggernaut:Eighth Day

On two separate occasions when lifted from the ground and held in midair by Jean Grey,The Juggernaut proves unstoppable by continuing to advance toward her irregardless despite having no physical footholds or leverage.

Having magically been stripped of all of his flesh,The Juggernaut still stood before his enemy to complete the battle as merely a skeleton. --Juggernaut OneShot

The Juggernaut walked right through a stream of Chamber's full power bio energy blast. Despite Chamber exerting so much effort into it he fell unconscious in the attempt. --Generation-X #61

Facing the Stranger who'd grown to about 50 feet tall,The Juggernaut lept up and toppled him with one punch --X-Men Forever #6

Took a direct blast from the new-look Cyclops that was described by him as being able to "rip a small planet in half" with a smile as The Juggernaut's only reaction. --Cyclops #1

Rendered the entire team of Generation-X,Banshee,and Emma Frost unconscious simply by clapping his hands together. --Generation-X #61

[Cthulhu-versailles]

...
The battle depends on if Sarutobi is included, despite being dead and all.
If Sarutobi is included, the battle comes down to: is Cythroks magic stronger then the naruto Death God?
The answer is somewhat unknown.
However, logical reasoning dictates Cythorak is stronger.
The Kyuubi is said to have infinite chakra, and could blow up mountains with the swing of it's tail. Yet the Deathgod Could only trap it.
If Cythorak were unleashed he would be a cosmic cube level threat.
Forget about mountains, planets and likely more would be threatened with immediate destruction.
Thereofre
Cythorak and Cythorak's magic>>>>>Death god
Deathgod can't seal him.

The Narutoverse is masscred, with or without Sarutobi.

Juggernaut is also>Genjutsu.:)

[Spacey]

...
The battle depends on if Sarutobi is included, despite being dead and all.
If Sarutobi is included, the battle comes down to: is Cythroks magic stronger then the naruto Death God?
The answer is somewhat unknown.
However, logical reasoning dictates Cythorak is stronger.
The Kyuubi is said to have infinite chakra, and could blow up mountains with the swing of it's tail. Yet the Deathgod Could only trap it.
If Cythorak were unleashed he would be a cosmic cube level threat.
Forget about mountains, planets and likely more would be threatened with immediate destruction.
Thereofre
Cythorak and Cythorak's magic>>>>>Death god
Deathgod can't seal him.

The Narutoverse is masscred, with or without Sarutobi.

Juggernaut is also>Genjutsu.:)

That's not even close to true, 1) Cyttorak is not allowed to directly interfere in the fight, so that leaves Juggernaut will the only basic protection from Cyttorak. 2) It wasn't that the death god was too weak to seal kyuubi it was that the fourth was too weak.

Anyhow like I stated before you could either kagemane him, because he only posses chakra like an average person, or genjutsu because it doesn't exist in the marvel universe cyttorak cannot have possibly thought about adding protection against it, or Kakashi MS, once again Cyttorak is not allowed to directly interfere so he can't help Juggernaut out of there. Ino switching conciousness would work too, for same reasons as Kagemane.

[Kisame]

genjutsu because it doesn't exist in the marvel universe cyttorak cannot have possibly thought about adding protection against it,

I just proved you can't use chakra on him. He doesn't have an inner coils system. Controlling chakra flow = genjutsu.

Narutoverse is the only place with that.

[Spacey]

I just proved you can't use chakra on him. He doesn't have an inner coils system. Controlling chakra flow = genjutsu.

Narutoverse is the only place with that.

But in the naturoverse you can't live without chakra though, so without that then he'd just die the moment he entered their universe, no matter how mystic he may be

[Ikari Shinji]

But in the naturoverse you can't live without chakra though, so without that then he'd just die the moment he entered their universe, no matter how mystic he may beJuggernaught renders Narutoverse's laws useless, HE doesn't need chakra, therefor he doesn't have, simple right?

[Kisame]

But in the naturoverse you can't live without chakra though, so without that then he'd just die the moment he entered their universe, no matter how mystic he may be

No in the narutoverse you die when you run out of chakra.
if you had no chakra in the first place you wouldn't die.

Thats like saying an Alucard vs konoha he dies because he has no inner coil system .......

[Spacey]

No in the narutoverse you die when you run out of chakra.
if you had no chakra in the first place you wouldn't die.



How can you know that? That's right you don't know it, running out of chakra and being totally depleted of chakra should be the same thing

[Endless Mike]

But in the naturoverse you can't live without chakra though, so without that then he'd just die the moment he entered their universe, no matter how mystic he may be

You also can't live without skin and organs, but Juggernaut did.

[Ikari Shinji]

How can you know that? That's right you don't know it, running out of chakra and being totally depleted of chakra should be the same thingThe people in Naruto only die because they needed it in the first place, if someone that has never needed it before doesn't have any, they don't die

[Spacey]

The people in Naruto only die because they needed it in the first place, if someone that has never needed it before doesn't have any, they don't die

Of course they do, because once he enters the narutoverse it's like being reborn in a kind of way

[Endless Mike]

As I said, Juggernaut can live without skin and internal organs, so why can't he live without chakra?

[Ikari Shinji]

Of course they do, because once he enters the narutoverse it's like being reborn in a kind of wayNo, he just poofs there, all his powers intact, as said before, Alucard wouldn't lose just because he doesn't have coils, why would the Jug?

[Spacey]

No, he just poofs there, all his powers intact, as said before, Alucard wouldn't lose just because he doesn't have coils, why would the Jug?

He poofs there then he dies, and Alucard is immortal big difference :wink

@Endless Mike: Because chakra doesn't exist in his universe, duhh:amuse

[Cthulhu-versailles]

Juggernaught renders Narutoverse's laws useless, HE doesn't need chakra, therefor he doesn't have, simple right?

Yep.

Cythorak = Sealed God = Ultimate Magic Evil= Jugs with Crsytal = Crystal has infinite magic sources= Jugs has Personal Forcefield= Jugs can neutralise magic and mind attacks with his two helmets on= Jugs can survive indefintly without food, water, breathing= Naruto verse genjutsu is useless= Naruto Verse is owned.

Also @Spacey
You do realize if Yondaime was to weak to be able to have Kyuubi killed, and was only able to seal him, neither Yondaime nor Sarutobi have any hope of sealing jugs. Jugs energy source is superior to Kyuubi's. Cythorak is a universal threat in marvel if released.

Ps: I don't buy what you're saying anyway. I think the Deathgod was not able to kill Kyuubi, just because it's Kyuubi.

Pss: Nen! Ki! Reiasu! Etc! I suppose Jugs would get owned by these things as well then, eh Spacey? Considering none of them exist in the marvelverse.:laugh :nuts

[Kisame]

How can you know that? That's right you don't know it, running out of chakra and being totally depleted of chakra should be the same thing


Sigh Juggernaught doesn't just warp to Narutoverse rules. He doesn't gain a chakra system, he doesn't lose his physics breaking powers, he doesn't lose his invulnerablity, he doesn't suddenly need to breath, sleep, eat.

He is the juggernaught. The juggernaught doesn't have chakra.

[Spacey]

Yep.

Cythorak = Sealed God = Ultimate Magic Evil= Jugs with Crsytal = Crystal has infinite magic sources= Jugs has Personal Forcefield= Jugs can neutralise magic and mind attacks with his two helmets on= Jugs can survive indefintly without food, water, breathing= Naruto verse genjutsu is useless= Naruto Verse is owned.

Also @Spacey
You do realize if Yondaime was to weak to be able to have Kyuubi killed, and was only able to seal him, neither Yondaime nor Sarutobi have any hope of sealing jugs. Jugs energy source is superior to Kyuubi's. Cythorak is a universal threat in marvel if released.

Ps: I don't buy what you're saying anyway. I think the Deathgod was not able to kill Kyuubi, just because it's Kyuubi.


See that doesn't matter I don't care if it's whoopie-fucking-doo protecting him it doesn't alter the fact that GENJUTSU DOES NOT EXIST IN MARVEL UNIVERSE. Therefore he is as vurnable to it as anybody, and btw Cyttorak doesn't get to tag ALONG to the narutoverse, It says "JUGGERNAUT VS KONOHA" not "Juggernaut /w Cyttorak vs Konoha" learn to read. So I think both Yondaime and Sarutobi would have no trouble sealing Juggernaut at all

@Shika Shika Boo, yup he would get owned by them, just as much as you're getting owned atm but you won't admit it :amuse

[Spacey]

Sigh Juggernaught doesn't just warp to Narutoverse rules. He doesn't gain a chakra system, he doesn't lose his physics breaking powers, he doesn't lose his invulnerablity, he doesn't suddenly need to breath, sleep, eat.

He is the juggernaught. The juggernaught doesn't have chakra.

Oh so now you're making the rules ? :oh

[Endless Mike]

See that doesn't matter I don't care if it's whoopie-fucking-doo protecting him it doesn't alter the fact that GENJUTSU DOES NOT EXIST IN MARVEL UNIVERSE. Therefore he is as vurnable to it as anybody, and btw Cyttorak doesn't get to tag ALONG to the narutoverse, It says "JUGGERNAUT VS KONOHA" not "Juggernaut /w Cyttorak vs Konoha" learn to read. So I think both Yondaime and Sarutobi would have no trouble sealing Juggernaut at all

@Shika Shika Boo, yup he would get owned by them, just as much as you're getting owned atm but you won't admit it :amuse

Genjutsu is just illusions.

Illusions and psychic powers exist in the Marvel universe, and Juggernaut's helmet blocks them.

[Ikari Shinji]

He poofs there then he dies, and Alucard is immortal big difference :wink

@Endless Mike: Because chakra doesn't exist in his universe, duhh:amuseWhat a fool, you forget the Juggernaught is immortal to!

[Spacey]

Genjutsu is just illusions.

Illusions and psychic powers exist in the Marvel universe, and Juggernaut's helmet blocks them.

No they're not JUST illusions they're illusions that manifest through chakra, therefore his helmet doesn't block shit

[Kisame]

Oh so now you're making the rules ? :oh

what rules? Thats the way the outskirts work.

If it was Ubogin vs Konoha his nen wouldn't turn into chakra.

If it was goku vs the Narutoverse he doesn't get a chakra system....

Wtf makes Juggernaught different?

[Cthulhu-versailles]

See that doesn't matter I don't care if it's whoopie-fucking-doo protecting him it doesn't alter the fact that GENJUTSU DOES NOT EXIST IN MARVEL UNIVERSE. Therefore he is as vurnable to it as anybody, and btw Cyttorak doesn't get to tag ALONG to the narutoverse, It says "JUGGERNAUT VS KONOHA" not "Juggernaut /w Cyttorak vs Konoha" learn to read. So I think both Yondaime and Sarutobi would have no trouble sealing Juggernaut at all

...
Juggernaut gets his powers from the Cythorak gem inside him.
If the battle is Jugs minus the gem, Jugs is just a normal human.
Maybe in recent jugs comics he's changed, but as far as I know that's how jugs has and still operates.

Also, since you're so intent on this marvel has no genjutsu so Jugs is pwned how about this. Narutoverse has no magic so they have no way to defend against any of the magic based jug attacks. Narutoverse has no magic so none of their attacks get through the magic personal forcefield.:amazed

Genjutsu works by chakra being transfered into someone, I think.:oh
Jugs has shown he can block of just about all forms of attack and energies getting through, to affect him. Telepathy, other magic, blunt force, elemental, you name it. It gets block. Genjutsu-chakra= just another form of energy that is going to get blocked.

[Spacey]

what rules? Thats the way the outskirts work.

If it was Ubogin vs Konoha his nen wouldn't turn into chakra.

If it was goku vs the Narutoverse he doesn't get a chakra system....

Wtf makes Juggernaught different?

I've never seen any rule like that, unless specified diffrent in the individual fight there shouldn't be any special rules like that

[Spacey]

...
Juggernaut gets his powers from the Cythorak gem inside him.
If the battle is Jugs minus the gem, Jugs is just a normal human.
Maybe in recent jugs comics he's changed, but as far as I know that's how jugs has and still operates.

Also, since you're so intent on this marvel has no genjutsu so Jugs is pwned how about this. Narutoverse has no magic so they have no way to defend against anything. Narutoverse has no magic so none of their attacks get through the magic personal forcefield.:amazed
He'd get own by genjutsu before that

[Endless Mike]

No they're not JUST illusions they're illusions that manifest through chakra, therefore his helmet doesn't block shit

In that case, Narutoverse can't hurt him since he is powered by Cytorrak, and Cytorrak doesn't exist in Narutoverse.:P

[Spacey]

In that case, Narutoverse can't hurt him since he is powered by Cytorrak, and Cytorrak doesn't exist in Narutoverse.:P
What?:huh If you mean it like that then it should be vice versa

[Endless Mike]

He'd get own by genjutsu before that

No he wouldn't, because it would be blocked by his helmet and skullcap.

You know, if Juggernaut goes all - out, he could punch the entire planet into floating debris.

[Endless Mike]

What?:huh If you mean it like that then it should be vice versa

That's the point. Neither of them apply.

[Spacey]

No he wouldn't, because it would be blocked by his helmet and skullcap.

You know, if Juggernaut goes all - out, he could punch the entire planet into floating debris.


Like I said earlier his helmet wouldn't protect him against genjutsu

[Ikari Shinji]

Like I said earlier his helmet wouldn't protect him against genjutsuIt wouldn't have to, because he has no chakra to manipulate :nod

[Spacey]

It wouldn't have to, because he has no chakra to manipulate :nod

Well then he does automatically the moment he enters the narutoverse:)

[Ikari Shinji]

Well then he does automatically the moment he enters the narutoverse:)This isn't a rule, nor is it true, so no

[Spacey]

This isn't a rule, nor is it true, so no

Yes it is, in the narutoverse you can't live without chakra.

PS. It feels like you guys are repeating the same arguements over and over, we've been through this so many times now :laugh

[Ikari Shinji]

Yes it is, in the narutoverse you can't live without chakra.

PS. It feels like you guys are repeating the same arguements over and over, we've been through this so many times now :laughNo, you can't live without chakra if you're born with it, Juggs wasn't born with it, he doesn't have it, he doesn't need it, Juggs wins

[Spacey]

No, you can't live without chakra if you're born with it, Juggs wasn't born with it, he doesn't have it, he doesn't need it, Juggs wins

As long as he is in the narutoverse he needs it as bad as anyone else.

[Endless Mike]

NO. HE. DOESN'T.

In a versus thread, each contestant plays by their own rules. Not each other's.

[Spacey]

NO. HE. DOESN'T.

In a versus thread, each contestant plays by their own rules. Not each other's.

Now you're making up your own rules again

[Endless Mike]

No, you are.

Ask a mod.

[Kagutsuchi]

So if Juggernaut doesn't have a Chakra System, then he simply doesn't exist in the Narutoverse! Konoha wins!

[Endless Mike]

Juggernaut can fight as a skeleton. Do skeletons have chakra systems?

[Spacey]

Juggernaut can fight as a skeleton. Do skeletons have chakra systems?


He wouldn't have time to become one before he'd die

[Endless Mike]

Except he's immortal.

[Saurus]

i doubt any genjutsu or any sort of bloodlines like sharingan .. will affect him with his helmet on .... i doubt even gaara's: Sabaku KYUU willl be able to hold him ./..... maybe mass kage bunshin lolz .. and pile on top of him with kagemana ... and chouji arms .. and gaara sand ...

[Endless Mike]

Then he throws them all off and yells "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!"

[Spacey]

Except he's immortal.

That will die

[Saurus]

nothing can stop the juggernaut ... except maybe onbu :D

[Endless Mike]

That will die

Immortal people can't die.

That's what 'immortal' means.

[Spacey]

Immortal people can't die.

That's what 'immortal' means.


He's not immortal though because he can die

[Gooba]

He is immortal unless you are more powerful than a high cosmic. Konoha isn't.

[Spacey]

He is immortal unless you are more powerful than a high cosmic. Konoha isn't.


No I can figure out many ways to kill him actually