This guy vs. anyone

[Endless Mike]

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[Nyat]

What can he do? I'm going to assume he does more than just look prickly

[Endless Mike]

Strength: Much stronger than a normal human or even a cyborg that can fight in 600 times gravity. Gains extra strength from the Void Which Binds

Speed: The Shrike can use its anti - entropic field to alter the passage of time, giving it great speed. Calculations put it at trillions of times
lightspeed.


So, Kassad saw a laser travelling at 10^-2 m/s, which is indeed 10 orders of magnitude lower than c.

So, time was slowed down by a factor of 10 billion, and the Shrike had a similar dilation factor, so he had a dilation factor of 10^20, which is equal to 100 quintillion in more pedestrian wording.

Say the Shrike was moving at 3m/s (a third the speed of an olympic sprinter), then that makes him...10^12 times faster than light. (this is a low - end figure)

The Shrike can think and react at these speeds.

Durability/Endurance: Survived a direct attack from multiterajoule starship grade weaponry without injury. Is made out of forcefields and cannot be harmed except by an opponent in the same spacetime phase as itself.

Intellect: Displayed reasonably competent strategy and tactics in his fights

Fighting Skill: Defeated Fehdman Kassad, supposedly the greatest warrior in history, multiple times when they were on near equal ground due to Kassad's weapons and phase suit.

Techniques/Powers:
Merlin's Disease: The Shrike can affect a living being with this disease which will cause them to age backward, both physiologically and mentally. Their memories will be reset every day to the day before.

Freecasting: This power allows the Shrike instantaneous teleportation to anywhere in the universe.

Time Travel: The Shrike can travel through time to any point in the past or future. He can also use this power to upgrade himself from the future, and anticipate his opponent's moves by looking into the future. Since the Shrike can travel backwards through time, to him, the future is really the past, so therefore events in the past, which is really the future, have to happen, and since the Shrike still exists, he was never defeated, therefore he never can be defeated completely.

Physical powers: The shrike is 3 meters tall, and has 4 arms, and is covered with razor blades, wires, knives, and other sharp implements that can cut through things previously thought to be completely indestructible.

Temporal clones: The Shrike can summon identical copies of himself from alternate timelines, in unlimited amounts.

Gear: Tree of pain, which he impales his victims on. It keeps them alive for eternity in agony.

Notes: The Shrike was only defeated once, by Fehdman Kassad, due to the fact that he was destined to win.

History: The Shrike is a machine created by the machine god, the Ultimate Intelligence. Its purpose is to guard the Time Tombs, mysterious structures surrounded by anti - entropic fields on the planet Hyperion that are moving backwards through time. Once the Time Tombs open, the Shrike and many others of his kind will be unleashed and destroy humanity, in order to challenge the Judeo - Christian God to battle.

[organizedcrime]

I don't know, what's the strongest being in the SS Universe?

[Sieg]

He's no match for post Sasuke...




=P

[furious styles]

oh shit its the shrike.

[Sunuvmann]

Looks kinda like Sauron :oh

[Endless Mike]

So any ideas?

[Nyat]

Hmmm, anyone you say? My vote goes to the judeo-christian God, you know, the omnipotent and omniscient one? If thats not allowed then I don't know, that guy seems pretty badass.

[Endless Mike]

The Shrike's creator had the Judeo - Christian God running scared.

[Nyat]

Yes, but I'm not talking about that books interpretation of the Judeo-christian God, I'm talking about the Judeo-christian interpretation of the Judeo-christian God. Omnipotence and omniscience is pretty hard to beat.

[Lucidious]

holy crap. wtf mate, it would take an entire season or two of DBZ to kill that guy.. jeesus. maybe someone that is the same as him? you said that others like him are prophesised for the battle on the judeo/christian god, so maybe one of them could, assuming they are equal.

what a badass though. he's like some sort of cosmic battle-rager

[Valdens]

Smoker Prime or Freddy Mercury

[furious styles]

I would like to see him square off vs. dark schneider.

[Endless Mike]

The only one to defeat him was Kassad, under a lot of special cirumstances:

- Kassad was the most powerful and deadly warrior humanity had ever and would ever produce

- Kassad wore a special phase suit that accelerated his speed to almost as high as the Shrike

- Kassad was also wearing a futuristic suit of battle armor and a very powerful multipurpose weapon

- Kassad's speed, power, and weapons were being boosted to much higher levels by Moneta, an agent of the human UI

- The Shrike was destined to lose, and knew that after he lost that he was destined to get Kassad's own brain patterns in his new form, so the Shrike himself was going easy on him.

[DarrenK]

It might have been an idea to list the abilities of the Shrike in the first post, as not everyone is going to have read, or even heard of, the Hyperion books. I've only read the first one, though I have to say that the Shrike is an interesting opponent for a cross-series deathmatch. Especially since it could, in theory, quite easily travel to the dimension of other series.

This is essentially going to be a conflict between two nigh-omnipotent Deus Ex Machina characters (and yes, the term quite literally applies to the Shrike).

The Culture or the Galactic Clans of the Uplift books would be my first proposed opponents. However, the humans in the Hyperion setting didn't exactly seem to be low-tech in the weapons department. I'd say they might be able to beat the Shrike, but would take a lot of damage (on a galaxy-spanning civilisation scale) in doing so. And I'd bet on the Shrike as the favourite.

My own rabid-fanboy-idol-who-can-PWN-anything that I will shamelessly push in any Battledome debate is Lucifer Morningstar from the Vertigo series Lucifer. But in the case of the Shrike, I have to admit that his victory wouldn't be a foregone conclusion- its powers could be overcome, but like the Lightbringer, the Shrike uses brains as well as simply crushing people with brute force. Lucifer would be favourite to win, but not a dead cert.

The perfect, evenly matched opponent would be Doctor Manhattan from the Watchmen. He's essentially all-knowing, all-powerful, and not limited to linear time. He only gets beaten when that is what's going to happen- and will even make references to it ahead of time. The Shrike's ideal opponent!

[Endless Mike]

Except Doctor Manhattan said that he wasn't powerful enough to stop all of Russia's nukes, so I doubt he has the power to stop the Shrike.

[Havoc]

The one above all

[DarrenK]

Except Doctor Manhattan said that he wasn't powerful enough to stop all of Russia's nukes, so I doubt he has the power to stop the Shrike.

A good point- through I think that is a case of him not being able to detect all the nukes in time to stop them in the case of a full lauch, rather than not having the raw power to do it.

Going back to the case of the Culture, I think that the one thing that puts the outcome in doubt is the Shrike's time travelling ability. Take that away, or give time travel to the culture, and the Minds can equal or exceed everything the Shrike does. It could be theorised that time travel really is impossible in the universe of the Culture, and that in another dimension, they would rapidly master the principles.

If this is not the case, and time travel is possible in their native dimension but not yet mastered by the Culture, then the Shrike becomes the definition of an Outside Context Problem.

[Endless Mike]

Or the Shrike could just create enough temporal clones to collapse the universe into a singularity from their mass.

[Keollyn]

Excluding that crazy as speed, The Strike can fall to RahXephon.

[DarrenK]

Or the Shrike could just create enough temporal clones to collapse the universe into a singularity from their mass.


...but wouldn't that destroy the Shrike as well? Since the temporal clones are just the Shrike travelling back to the same point in time over and over, and even time travel wouldn't let it escape from a singularity?

[DarrenK]

Excluding that crazy as speed, The Strike can fall to RahXephon.

The problem with the Shrike seems to be that every possible fight is boiling down to "X could beat it if it didn't have power Y". Except that it DOES have these powers...

[Endless Mike]

...but wouldn't that destroy the Shrike as well? Since the temporal clones are just the Shrike travelling back to the same point in time over and over, and even time travel wouldn't let it escape from a singularity?


Not necessarily, because it was said that the UIs could access other universes.

[Keollyn]

The problem with the Shrike seems to be that every possible fight is boiling down to "X could beat it if it didn't have power Y". Except that it DOES have these powers...

That's understandable. Not excluding him, I think RahXephon can take out The Strike..... If only we knew the full extent of The Rah...

[Valdens]

Flash could steal all his speed then infinite mass punch Ftw.

Edit: 777th post!

[Endless Mike]

Flash stealing his speed wouldn't work for the same reason it doesn't work on Zoom: He can't steal temporal - based speed.

[Coaxmetal]

The fates could do it.

[Pipboy]

The best result would be achieved by an entity of insubstantial nature and vast comprehension and attack range. Most of the shrikes abilties are based off of the physical universe.

Thus Q!

On a more interesting level,

Nozdormu from warcraft could take him on, for the simple reason that in addition to magic and power, Nozdormu is the aspect of time, he can rewind and manipulate time, as well as cast his perceptions along the timeline, and most importantly, his death is preordained, and thus he cannot die unless it is his time.

If Nozdormu can't take him, Aman'Thul the titan that granted him his powers, a tiny portion of his own cosmic abilties could.

[EXhack]

For the CHUCKTARDS:

Chuck Norris, if he was Galacticus-class cosmic and had guns made of Uru with Uru bullets and cosmic and nanite gunpowder. PLUS if was full Piezochem nanite enhanced and had the Helios AI in him (Deus Ex refs.). And received god powers from Lhorkan's Heart and whirled Oblivion around him and had Akulakhan minions as badass as him (Elder of scrolls) and Diablo's soulstone as a necklace as well, as a codpiece made of pure cosmic energy with infinite density.

[Rice Ball]

Thanos + J lo

[Kisame]

mcgvyer prime could do it.

[Ion]

Time Travel: The Shrike can travel through time to any point in the past or future. He can also use this power to upgrade himself from the future, and anticipate his opponent's moves by looking into the future. Since the Shrike can travel backwards through time, to him, the future is really the past, so therefore events in the past, which is really the future, have to happen, and since the Shrike still exists, he was never defeated, therefore he never can be defeated completely.That hurt my head, but I think I got it.

[organizedcrime]

mcgvyer prime could do it.Let's not re-open that chapter of Outskirts Battledome...

[Ion]

Actually, now that I think about it, Dark Schneider and Lucifer would be able to take him.

[organizedcrime]

You know, I wonder how any book with such a powerful character could ever be successful.

[Endless Mike]

It's very well - written.

You would really have to read it to see why it's so good.

[Ion]

My dad has the whole series, I think, on his bookcase. Maybe I should check them out.

[Endless Mike]

I recommend it.

[Id]

Ok Im going to add my personal list.

Full Power Lucifer.

Saint Of Killers.

That’s all I can think of:wtf and Im not sure if they are enough!!!!

[Endless Mike]

Lucifer would do the trick.

As for SoK, the Shrike would blitz him before he could react, steal his guns, and shoot him with them.

[Kanzaki Strider]

Well, a certain person could destroy him by just thinking about thinking about destroying him.

[underdogdlx]

i say Guts could take him.